[+supernova+]

Yeah, I know right? *SIGH*

It's like they're too worried about their precious egos to care about anything else.

[lancer1993]

A strike is not even an option. Especially how bad the Writers strike got, and how much money was lost. They can't be that stupid. They need to look at the outcome out of what happened then and learn from it.

It is a union we're talking about

God I hope they don't strike but I'm not expecting much now they have just over 2 weeks to work things out and the bulk of Fall shows go into production soon.

[+supernova+]

Well, I read they can just keeping working on their current contract until a deal is made.

I really don't know if they'd even get the 75% needed for strike authorization. I just don't see it. People want to keep working.

[lancer1993]

They may not want to strike but without a contract will studios run the risk of starting production if a strike could came at any moment?

[+supernova+]

Well, a strike can't just come at any moment. It has to be authorized first. So, if it's not authorized...they'll just keep working anyway.

[lancer1993]

I guess so, but without a contract can't a strike be called easier?

[crazy_diamond]

SAG are making a mockery of this!

[jalapeno_wildchild]

with alt of shows either in production or getting ready to go into production within the next two weeks, IF SAG were to call a authorization vote, i can't see them getting 75%, since alot of their members will already be working. i can't see them wanting to all of a sudden be out of work.

if SAG is stalling, how long can they actually do that, would that affect the other shows going into production in july and august?

[+supernova+]

In one article it said that SAG might be stalling to see how the AFTRA vote goes which isn't until July 9th. Honestly, they should just worry about themselves and try to keep their people working. This economy is bad enough as it is.

[jalapeno_wildchild]

Originally Posted by +supernova+ (View Post) In one article it said that SAG might be stalling to see how the AFTRA vote goes which isn't until July 9th. Honestly, they should just worry about themselves and try to keep their people working. This economy is bad enough as it is.

i agree. at least it sounds like SAG is willing to let the actors work.

[+supernova+]

July may burn SAG, producers Feature-primetime deal expires June 30th By DAVE MCNARY With SAG unlikely to make a deal in the next two weeks, both sides will move on to tricky turf as of July 1, the day after the guild's current feature-primetime deal with the Alliance of Motion Picture & Television Producers expires. As of July 1, changes for thesps include the following: * The no-strike no-lockout clause is no longer in effect. * The union security clause, requiring actors to be under guild jurisdiction, is no longer in effect. * The grievance and arbitration requirements are suspended, meaning that grievances that are filed can't be arbitrated until a new deal's signed. Biz insiders say the lack of grievance and arbitration coverage is by far the most significant issue for thesps during a period when there is no guild contract in force. Although there are no explicit rules governing how the studios and guild should function after a contract expires without the guild going on strike, tradition in union negotiations dictates that SAG actors will continue to work under terms and conditions of the expired contract -- on those productions whose studios have decided to take their chances and not close down amid the uncertainty. Though neither side has issued any public comment about the negotiations since the verbal sparring last week, those close to the talks have signaled that a resolution is at least a few more weeks away. SAG has not taken a strike authorization vote, which would require 75% approval and probably a few weeks to get ballots out to 120,000 members. AMPTP companies have not given any sign that they are moving toward locking the actors out, even though such a step would be permissible once the contract expires. In addition, the AMPTP -- the negotiation arm for studios and networks -- has not yet made its "last, best and final" offer. It's not uncommon for unions to continue negotiations beyond contract deadlines. SAG went four days past the contract deadline in 2001 before making a deal, and the WGA went nearly five months past expiration in 2004 before it finally reach a tentative deal. Earlier this year, the WGA East closed deals for ABC and CBS news employees more than two years after its old deals expired. Talks between SAG and the AMPTP were in their 32nd day Tuesday with progress remaining elusive. Meanwhile, SAG has been focused on a campaign against the primetime contract reached by rival union AFTRA, which has some 44,000 overlapping members with SAG. Results of AFTRA's ratification vote are expected to be announced July 7 or soon thereafter, which makes the week after the Independence Day holiday a pivotal time in the guild talks. Sentiment in the biz is that SAG will lose much of its bargaining leverage if the AFTRA deal is approved by members. AFTRA's leaders have defended the deal -- pointing to gains in salary minimums and new media -- and characterized SAG as unrealistic in demanding more than the DGA, WGA, and AFTRA achieved in their negotiations. SAG, in a message to the 44,000 members who belong to both unions, has continued to blast away. "AFTRA's tentative deal -- reached on its own under an artificial deadline six weeks before the conclusion of the contract -- achieves few if any real gains for actors," SAG said.

Read the full article at:
July may burn SAG, producers - Entertainment News, Front Page, Media - Variety

[lancer1993]

I'm starting to worry, some studios might play it safe and not start production again in case they can't get enough eps made for the fall season.

Makes me wonder what they are thinking!

[flash502]

Thanks for all the news

[jalapeno_wildchild]

thanks for the update supernova. i had no idea that unions could go on working for more than two years without making a new deal. it sounds encouraging that they might be a few weeks away from a deal. at least they won't be forced to not be able to go back into production, that's certainly a plus,especially if the television shows want a full season in the fall.

[+supernova+]

I really doubt they're gonna strike. I just have a strong feeling they won't. I mean what's the point?