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Nothing Else Matters · 12-07-2012, 02:02 PM

I mean Tara didn't know the club's plan during the finale in season 3. She still managed to hug Jax as he was being led off. Idk.

hiddleskittlesღ · 12-08-2012, 10:39 PM

Sorry if this has been posted already. Just thought it was interesting.

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I really wanted to get to a place where Jax perhaps realizes he’s better at being an outlaw than he is at being a husband and a father,” Sutter said Wednesday (December 5) on a post-season call with reporters. “… The intent was to have him have this very successful, although bloody an tumultuous and tragic or painful, run as president of the club, but ultimately to have that stuff come out almost flawlessly. The execution of Pope (Harold Perrineau), the way he maneuvered that, he pulled that off like a spec ops soldier. All that stuff went flawlessly and was incredibly smart. While all that was going on on the outlaw side, all the stuff with his family was essentially falling apart. At the end of it, he does one incredibly well and one incredibly bad. [It’s] just the idea of, maybe I’m supposed to be doing this and not be doing that. I’m not saying this is where we’re ultimately going to be with the character, but in this moment, I think there is a sense of, I’m completely successful on the one hand and I’ve completely failed at this other thing, and maybe I’m just supposed to be doing the thing I’m good at. That’s where I wanted to have him land at the end.

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i never learn · 12-08-2012, 10:55 PM

he pulled that off like a spec ops soldier.

no.

star77 · 12-09-2012, 05:09 AM

^^ You can't deny that he pulled that off well. It was a great plan and he executed it well.

Karma Police · 12-09-2012, 11:25 AM

It was a flawed plan because Pope could have killed Tig before Jax got there. It wasn't thought through at all.

Nothing Else Matters · 12-09-2012, 04:56 PM

CH named performer of the week by TV Line.

Charlie Hunnam: ‘Sons of Anarchy’ Season 5 — Performer of the Week - TVLine

Spoiler:

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Are there any relationships that you’re looking forward to fleshing out, in the coming seasons, now that the dynamics are shifting?

SUTTER: Yeah, I think there’s a lot to play out in what will happen with Bobby and Jax next year. I really think a major relationship will be between Chibs (Tommy Flanagan) and Jax. Chibs has become his Opie now. He’s his main guy and his loyal dude, and there will be a lot to play out there. Is Chibs capable of maintaining that level of loyalty, as Jax goes on this darker journey? Will he then be burdened to be the guy that has the voice of reason, and what does that mean for their relationship? I think the main relationships that will be played out, will be with Jax and Chibs, and then also with Jax and Bobby.

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Now that Clay is off to prison and Bobby (Mark Boone Junior) has turned in his VP patch, will you be exploring how that fractures the club?

SUTTER: Part of the tragedy for me is that the writers had this checklist for Jax, in the beginning of the season, of things that he wanted, which included getting out of the drug business, getting out of the cartel business, getting rid of RICO, and having Clay get his payback. He had all these things he needed to do, and he methodically and brilliantly achieved all those goals this season, but at the end of it, the fall-out came on the personal side of that. Both families are now in shambles. He has a club that has no more external pressures, he’s gotten rid of the RICO case, he has this relationship with Eli (Rockmond Dunbar) so that there’s also no pressure in town, he’s gotten out of the drug and gun business, he has this new business that’s making money and there’s Charming Heights, and yet the club itself is in complete shambles. His inner circle is really reduced to two guys now. Bobby was the last voice of reason, and Bobby turning into that VP patch is not that he’s leaving the club, but he’s saying, “I can’t do this job because you won’t let me do this job.” The club has all these new opportunities and it’s ready to flourish, so part of Jax’s job next season will really be about, now that he’s removed all the external things, how will he fix it from the inside.

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What will Clay’s role be now, in the coming seasons?

SUTTER: At the end of this season, when August (Billy Brown) tells his guy, “I want him dead before the hearing,” I really wanted to give the sense that there’s a death nail for Clay. He’s really a dead man walking, or in this case, a dead man riding between lots of black men. I really wanted to set it up so that Jax was successful in his death by proxy option that he’s chosen for Clay. How that will play out exactly, I’m not sure yet. Whether or not Clay will make it through Season 6, I’m not sure. There’s definitely some more story to tell, in terms of the mythology. What I don’t want to do is get into another situation where it’s another almost death of Clay. I think that is very unsatisfying. I’m not quite sure where Clay’s end date will be, but I do think it ultimately has to be near. But, there is still some more story to tell.

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In terms of Gemma, how do you find the balance between her being completely despicable while also having viewers root for her relationship with Nero (Jimmy Smits)?

SUTTER: It’s always a fine balance with any of our three major characters – Jax, Gemma and Clay (Ron Perlman). That trilogy are such strong familial characters that have won the hearts of the audience, and yet they live in this very dangerous, dark world and have to make decisions, all the time. Some of those decisions are really bad and reprehensible decisions. It’s always difficult, trying to find that balance. What I try to let be my guide is the story. I’d like to think that things happen organically and they’re never forced, one way or the other, in terms of trying to manipulate a reaction from the audience. I mean this in the most flattering way, but Gemma is just a ****ing cockroach. She’s just hard to kill. She was really adrift, at the beginning of this season. She was ****ed up. She hit a bottom and she crawled her way back up, making some really defining decisions. My intent for her, at the end of the season, was for her to have her balls back, and I think we got there, at the end of the finale. It’s hard to cheer that on, but at the very least, there’s that sense of, “****, man, she always lands on her feet.” Her justification is always, “I’m taking care of my family.” That’s what allows her, in her mind, to do the things that she needs to do. But, it’s definitely a fine line.

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hiddleskittlesღ · 12-11-2012, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Karma Police (View Post)

It was a flawed plan because Pope could have killed Tig before Jax got there. It wasn't thought through at all.

Gotta disagree. I thought about that when Tig said it, but it made sense that Pope wouldn't kill him right away. I think Jax was counting on Pope's bloodlust - he wanted to exact revenge on Tig, but he wanted to take his time. Jax was thinking like Pope, in more ways than one. If Tig had been Clay, Jax would've taken his time with him too.

Love those insights. Thanks for the spoilers!

Karma Police · 12-11-2012, 03:38 AM

Sure Pope probably wanted to take his time but Jax didn't know that, he wasn't sure if Tig would get out alive. Besides Pope was never his friend or even a true ally, Jax doesn't know him and Pope is unpredictable. How was he sure that Pope would have left him outside just with one dude and that they wouldn't have checked his bike for more weapons, it wasn't a great plan. It was a reckless plan imo that could have easily backfired.

I wonder if there are going to be any consequences next season. Pope was so influential that it would be ridiculous and unrealisitc if there were no repercussions.

Ice Queen follower · 12-14-2012, 07:47 PM

I've closed my eyes as I was browsing through the thread, don't want to spoil myself. I am a complete newbie to the show, have been wanting to watch for a long while now, just never did. But thanks to netflix my obsession has begun. Just wanted to say OMG i'm in love with the show and hope I will still enjoy it when I get to the new episodes.

hiddleskittlesღ · 12-16-2012, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Karma Police (View Post)

Sure Pope probably wanted to take his time but Jax didn't know that, he wasn't sure if Tig would get out alive. Besides Pope was never his friend or even a true ally, Jax doesn't know him and Pope is unpredictable. How was he sure that Pope would have left him outside just with one dude and that they wouldn't have checked his bike for more weapons, it wasn't a great plan. It was a reckless plan imo that could have easily backfired.

I wonder if there are going to be any consequences next season. Pope was so influential that it would be ridiculous and unrealisitc if there were no repercussions.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that. I thought it was well-executed and conceptualized.

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I've closed my eyes as I was browsing through the thread, don't want to spoil myself. I am a complete newbie to the show, have been wanting to watch for a long while now, just never did. But thanks to netflix my obsession has begun. Just wanted to say OMG i'm in love with the show and hope I will still enjoy it when I get to the new episodes.

Welcome!

I felt the same way you do now when I first got into the show. I did a marathon of seasons 1-4 in 5 days! Yes, I don't have a life. But it was so good though! And I hated waiting a year for s5. Ugh!

Who's your favorite so far?

hiddleskittlesღ · 12-16-2012, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Karma Police (View Post)

Sure Pope probably wanted to take his time but Jax didn't know that, he wasn't sure if Tig would get out alive. Besides Pope was never his friend or even a true ally, Jax doesn't know him and Pope is unpredictable. How was he sure that Pope would have left him outside just with one dude and that they wouldn't have checked his bike for more weapons, it wasn't a great plan. It was a reckless plan imo that could have easily backfired.

I wonder if there are going to be any consequences next season. Pope was so influential that it would be ridiculous and unrealisitc if there were no repercussions.

We'll have to agree to disagree on that. I thought it was well-executed and conceptualized.

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I've closed my eyes as I was browsing through the thread, don't want to spoil myself. I am a complete newbie to the show, have been wanting to watch for a long while now, just never did. But thanks to netflix my obsession has begun. Just wanted to say OMG i'm in love with the show and hope I will still enjoy it when I get to the new episodes.

Welcome!

I felt the same way you do now when I first got into the show. I did a marathon of seasons 1-4 in 5 days! Yes, I don't have a life. But it was so good though! And I hated waiting a year for s5. Ugh!

Who's your favorite so far?

Ice Queen follower · 12-16-2012, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by hiddleskittlesღ (View Post)

Welcome!

I felt the same way you do now when I first got into the show. I did a marathon of seasons 1-4 in 5 days! Yes, I don't have a life. But it was so good though! And I hated waiting a year for s5. Ugh!

Who's your favorite so far?

Thanks, I've been wanting to watch since it started just never got around to it. Barely watch TV, except for a few things, so grateful for netflix. I would be further along than what I am now, but the hubby caught a few episodes with me, so he is catching up to me so we can watch together...really driving me crazy I need more now

Opie by far, I just love Ryan Hurst. I'm nervous though skimming through a page yesterday led me to believe things don't end well for him

Trying to not think of any of the newer stuff until I get caught up.

hiddleskittlesღ · 12-17-2012, 02:42 AM

So sorry if we ruined it for you. I don't like getting spoiled either, but I'm kidding myself if I go on the Internet expecting that

Oh yes, Opie. He is the voice of reason and a shining light.

One of my favorites too. Jax, Tara, Gemma, Chibs, Tig, and Juice are my faves

hiddleskittlesღ · 01-26-2013, 07:19 PM

CasNorth · 03-11-2013, 09:10 AM

I love SOA, but right now...I'm in between, depending on Jax...Of course he's dealing with a lot of BullSh. But nonetheless, he should stayed the old Jax...And I'm hoping Tara get out of Jail soon

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