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Old 05-19-2018, 11:12 PM
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I think it would be hard to put an most of those couples on a cutest couple list because they didn't really date to be one of the cutest couples or in the case of Nathan/Peyton, their relationship was way too horrible to be considered cute.
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Old 05-21-2018, 12:52 AM
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thats why i said most of the ones i listed were crackships lol. but hey, we still got moments for them so I'm counting them.

NP were horrible in 1-4 but i loved them besides those episodes. and i have a headcannon that np were super adorable in the beginning.
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Old 05-22-2018, 12:07 AM
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Fair enough lol

I don't think BL should have been on the list for similar reasons, since Lucas being an horrible boyfriend throughout like 95% of their relationship takes away from their cuteness imo.
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Old 05-27-2018, 02:52 AM
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How would everyone rank each season out of ten?
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Old 05-27-2018, 06:13 PM
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For me:

season 1 - 10/10 (original season, everything felt so natural and real and i just loved all the characters and the storylines etc. i was the most hooked/invested this season)

season 3 - 10/10 (the "peak" of the show imo. Other than BL which i didnt ship, I liked the majority of the storylines and even though it was more dramatic this season it was good drama and fun to watch. I loved the relationships between everyone and the cliffhangers they had were great. great music this season too)

season 5 - 9/10 (most people dont agree with me but i personally adored season 5. i thought the time jump breathed some new life into the series. i personally loved the storyline for LP because i love the angst and i wanted to see them come back together. after episode 512 it went downhill a bit for me (513-516) but i still really enjoyed the season and it was shorter so it felt more cohesive to me. I adored season 5 brooke as well.)

season 2 - 8/10 (i did have some issues with this seaso, like the lack of LP stuff and too much focus on felix/anna... but for the most part it still felt vey much like oth to me and there were some really amazing episodes. I loved the storyline with dan and keith and BL were actually sweet this season imo. I too actually enjoyed the NH angst even if other people didnt)

season 4 - 8/10 - (this season definitely felt different to me compared to seasons 1-3 but i still really loved it. i loved the SL for LP a lot. There were some over the top episodes but some really memorable and enjoyable ones as well. I didnt love the BP drama but I did think it was well done.)

season 9 - 7.5/10 (this season is low because it was one of the later seasons and imo those were the worst of the series. They felt less like OTH and more fillery, but this season I actually enjoyed. I loved the nathan plot. It was a short season so it went by quickly and it was the last one so things were wrapped up well. I enjoyed the focus on Haley too and some of Brookes scenes. I thought the finale and 910 were some of the best oth episodes. I'm really excited to rewatch it.)

season 6 - 7/10 (i didnt hate it. There were some plots I enjoyed like LP of course. Their wedding episode is one of my favorites from the series. But tbh this is the season i lost interest in the show. I found most of the episodes very boring and dragging. I hated the nanny carrie episode, it was way too over the top. But at least it had the core 6 still and it should have ended in 624 with a bit more closure on some things.)

season 7 - 6.5/10 (the time jump in this one gave a bit of life to it and i enjoyed the new characters and the haleys mom plot. there were some solid episodes this season and i enjoyed it a lot more during my rewatch. but it still fell a bit flat to me. it lacked without LP for sure. something about it just felt off to me and a lot of the episodes started getting repetitive near the end.

season 8 - 5/10 (i will never HATE a season of this show because its still OTH and my favorite show, but this season was pretty bad. Im reattaching now and its been pretty boring and super super repetitive in storylines. every episode feels the same and i hate how choppy this season was. a lot of the characters were constantly separated. bj, nhj, qc, etc. too much focus on mia/chase as well. It felt like it was lacking direction. There were some good episodes scattered throughout but none of them were amazing. definitely my least favorite season of the show.)
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Old 05-28-2018, 04:58 AM
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Season 1- This season definitely the best overall with how grounded it felt and how original the characters were back then. The triangle wasn't great though and the cliffhanger with Naley should have never happened either. 9.5/10

Season 2 - This season just sucks and honestly even having more Leyton overall wouldn't have completely fixed all of its issues. Most of the guest stars (Felix especially) sucked, the lack of basketball made no sense, the core was too separated at times (especially in the second half) and even most of the adult's storylines weren't great either. Peyton's storyline was horrible this season and it was obvious that they had no idea what to do with her during this time in the show. 3/10

Season 3 - I pretty much agree with everything you said, but I also wasn't an fan of the Peyton/Haley storyline in the first third and that dragged down the early episodes for me. I always wasn't an fan of the aftermath of the shooting either and that should have gotten on for an few more episodes at least. 9/10

Season 4 - I agree with your view of this season and I think reason why the second half falls an bit apart because the two main arcs at that point were the point shaving and Lucas trying to find out the truth about Keith's death, which didn't work for different reasons. The last six or seven episodes were pretty good (minus the psycho Derek return episode) and that actually would have been an decent series finale imo. 8.5/10

Season 5: Lucas was an unlikeable **** this season and it says a lot even CMM thought that Luke was an massive idiot that season. I didn't like the way that Peyton acted this season either, but she acted that way with Jake in S2 too, so it sadly wasn't OOC for her. The Naley drama was pretty forced too and Nathan was pretty horrible to Haley for the first two thirds of the season. Brooke was surprisingly amazing though, same with Brooke/Peyton scenes and I really enjoyed Jamie's interactions with everyone throughout the season. 4/10 (that number would be so much higher if NH and LP had better storylines)

Season 6 - I loved most of LP scenes we got this season, but I wasn't an fan of how their problems were handled and we didn't get enough scenes at certain parts of the season. Wasn't an fan of how Peyton handled Julian coming into town at all and it actually made me feel really bad for the guy. NH were pretty boring for the most part and I thought BJu had some potential before the writers rushed them. Mia/Chase/Jamie/Jack/Sam all got way too focus throughout the season and it was an obvious sign that Mark wasn't all that interested in writing for the core 5 anymore, which means the show should have ended at that point. The movie storyline also added nothing to the show at all tbh. 5/10
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Old 05-28-2018, 05:21 PM
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I think thats the most I've ever seen you write!

3/10 wow thats low. lol.

Sorry but no way is season 2 worse than 8 haha. But I guess you never watched.
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Old 05-28-2018, 11:51 PM
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It is?

There isn't a lot about season 2 I like lol and I haven't watched enough of the 3 seasons to completely rate them lol.
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Old 05-29-2018, 12:54 PM
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Interesting rankings.
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Old 05-29-2018, 05:53 PM
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Yes it is
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