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Old 01-14-2012, 07:27 PM
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Billy is a good friend, he spent almost the whole dance in the women's bathroom helping Jane change clothes.
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Old 01-15-2012, 12:01 AM
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Yeah Billy a great friend for helping her out with going to both places when she originally was going to the dance with him for fun. And to hang out in the girl restroom to help her change is great too.

I find Billy and Lulu really interesting, perhaps because he's Jane's best friend (well only friend) and she's Jane's nemesis since the fourth grade (that we know of). From the last episode she looks like she genuinely likes him. And it's not just that he's a hot piece of forbidden fruit that would drive her father up the wall. But also they aren't the first pair I would put together and that's what makes them interesting. Because they're so different and could be something interesting if handle well.

If Jane is to be paired with either Nick or Jeremy, I hope for Nick.

I don't want any romantic feelings at the moment between Jane and Billy at the moment. I'm not a big fan of boy/girl friendships being ruined by those romantic feelings. Because sometimes the friendship was much better than the romance. But I got to admit that Billy and Jane do have great chemistry together. Though I would rather see where he goes with Lulu and she goes with Nick first.

I don't see Jane handling Billy being with Lulu well. But in the end she will want him to be happy. I can see them competing over who Billy spends time with.
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Old 01-15-2012, 02:33 AM
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i like Billy & Lulu
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Old 01-15-2012, 11:27 PM
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I find Billy and Lulu really interesting, perhaps because he's Jane's best friend (well only friend) and she's Jane's nemesis since the fourth grade (that we know of). From the last episode she looks like she genuinely likes him. And it's not just that he's a hot piece of forbidden fruit that would drive her father up the wall. But also they aren't the first pair I would put together and that's what makes them interesting. Because they're so different and could be something interesting if handle well.

If Jane is to be paired with either Nick or Jeremy, I hope for Nick.

I don't want any romantic feelings at the moment between Jane and Billy at the moment. I'm not a big fan of boy/girl friendships being ruined by those romantic feelings. Because sometimes the friendship was much better than the romance. But I got to admit that Billy and Jane do have great chemistry together. Though I would rather see where he goes with Lulu and she goes with Nick first.
i agree. i've liked friends to lovers pairings before, but usually I'm not that into it.
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Old 01-17-2012, 12:09 PM
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Im excited for tonight and im hoping for some more billy/lulu..as of right now they are my otp of the show.I just love them and I loved when she came up behind him and put her arms around him.So cute.
I don't really want anyting to come out of billy and jane.I just really like their friendship and don't want that ruined or anything plus it feels so predictable.Alot of the time they can't seem to just have a boy girl friendship so thats just how I feel about it right now(but that could always change haha)

As for Jane..Im not sure yet who I want her with
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Old 01-17-2012, 07:13 PM
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I'm really liking Billy/Lulu, too! Billy/Jane is just... so predictable. Can they be like Lucas/Haley and only remain friends?

Jane treats Billy like he's her lap dog. Say no once in awhile, Billy.
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Old 01-17-2012, 08:20 PM
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I don't like Billy & Lulu. Just, no. It makes me think less of Billy to be honest. The girl is just vile to his BFF. And why do they have to give her a sob story? Can't she just be a bitch just because. I prefer India as HBIC. Shipping India and Jeremy now.
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Old 01-17-2012, 08:49 PM
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Well, to be honest, it's not like Jane treats her so-called bff all that great either. Asking him to commit fraud just so she can lie and live her double life?

Most people are not bitches just cause... though. And that would only work for so long. The characters need to have layers.
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Old 01-17-2012, 09:33 PM
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Well, to be honest, it's not like Jane treats her so-called bff all that great either. Asking him to commit fraud just so she can lie and live her double life?

Most people are not bitches just cause... though. And that would only work for so long. The characters need to have layers.
Billy agreed to that though. It's not like Jane forced him to do it. Plus, it had to be done. It's the whole plot of the show... Lulu can't even give Jane a break when her boyfriend tells her to. I'm not trying to turn this into Jane vs. Lulu. I just don't care for who Billy chooses to date.

And I know characters are meant to have layers but I hate when the writers are blatantly forcing the audience to sympathize with a character after all the awful things they do. I'd rather it feel more natural. If it doesn't then I'd rather they not even bother. Tonight with Lulu it didn't work for me. This is just my opinion.
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Old 01-17-2012, 09:41 PM
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Billy agreed to that though. It's not like Jane forced him to do it. Plus, it had to be done. It's the whole plot of the show... Lulu can't even give Jane a break when her boyfriend tells her to. I'm not trying to turn this into Jane vs. Lulu. I just don't care for who Billy chooses to date.

And I know characters are meant to have layers but I hate when the writers are blatantly forcing the audience to sympathize with a character after all the awful things they do. I'd rather it feel more natural. If it doesn't then I'd rather they not even bother. Tonight with Lulu it didn't work for me. This is just my opinion.
He agreed to it but she is the one who asked him to do it. She shouldn't put her friend in a situation like that.
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I'm really liking Billy/Lulu, too! Billy/Jane is just... so predictable. Can they be like Lucas/Haley and only remain friends?
I could not agree more!

We've seen the Billy/Jane dynamic too many times before. Girl's best friend is always there for her, always doing her favors, but she never sees him as more than a friend until one day she suddenly does! This show borrows from the TV/Movie canon enough as it is. I can't wait to see how they explore Billy/Lulu. There's more to Lulu than just the rich high school diva. And honestly I don't think Lulu's done anything particularly unforgivable yet. She's just stuck in a role and is too scared to fight against that. Tonight's episode makes me think that has less to do with her wanting to be in that top dog position and more with her father expecting certain things of her. Lulu's still young she doesn't quite get the world yet but I think Billy might open her up to the reality that she's capable of a lot more. I actually think Lulu might end up being one of the more interesting characters on the show.

Though I didn't feel the same way about the hints of India's past tonight. Parts of it just seemed too forced. So she's driven and self centered. So what? Those a perfectly fine qualities for a HBIC. I don't want the show to soften her up or anything. That said I liked seeing her let loose at the party.
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Old 01-17-2012, 09:59 PM
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I could not agree more!

We've seen the Billy/Jane dynamic too many times before. Girl's best friend is always there for her, always doing her favors, but she never sees him as more than a friend until one day she suddenly does! This show borrows from the TV/Movie canon enough as it is. I can't wait to see how they explore Billy/Lulu. There's more to Lulu than just the rich high school diva. And honestly I don't think Lulu's done anything particularly unforgivable yet. She's just stuck in a role and is too scared to fight against that. Tonight's episode makes me think that has less to do with her wanting to be in that top dog position and more with her father expecting certain things of her. Lulu's still young she doesn't quite get the world yet but I think Billy might open her up to the reality that she's capable of a lot more. I actually think Lulu might end up being one of the more interesting characters on the show.

Though I didn't feel the same way about the hints of India's past tonight. Parts of it just seemed too forced. So she's driven and self centered. So what? Those a perfectly fine qualities for a HBIC. I don't want the show to soften her up or anything. That said I liked seeing her let loose at the party.
I agree with you about Lulu. And I think Lulu did those things to Jane because she was jealous/insecure about her friendship with her boyfriend. Not saying it makes it right.... but it looks like she has stopped.

I like India. She does go overboard sometimes, though.
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yeah, i can ONLY really like bitches when they have reasons and a backstory. so I am glad we are seeing that with Lulu.

and tbh, if lulu is a bitch to jane, then i'm more disappointed in billy for dating someone that treats his best friend that way then i would be at at lulu.

i like billy/lulu because i dont think they are that conventional. billy isnt exactly a "geek" so its not really the same cliche IMo.

I'm TRYING really HARD to love jane/billy because I just know its gonna go there. LOL.
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Old 01-18-2012, 06:33 AM
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I don't like Lulu too much because of how she is to Jane. Jane and breaking up with soneone's boyfriend and that party. I like this show so far.
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Old 01-18-2012, 06:54 AM
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yeah, i can ONLY really like bitches when they have reasons and a backstory. so I am glad we are seeing that with Lulu.

and tbh, if lulu is a bitch to jane, then i'm more disappointed in billy for dating someone that treats his best friend that way then i would be at at lulu.

i like billy/lulu because i dont think they are that conventional. billy isnt exactly a "geek" so its not really the same cliche IMo.

I'm TRYING really HARD to love jane/billy because I just know its gonna go there. LOL.
And that will be the day I check out from this show, lol. Been there, done that.
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