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Old 04-17-2017, 12:01 AM
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I think Jessica was trying to provoke a reaction from Justin, she obviously blamed him knowing he could have stopped it so was hanging out with Bryce to see what Justin would do. Also I think it may have been a form of denial for her like a way to convince herself he can't of done what he did by hanging out with him in normal circumstances although when she got out her Dad's gun I thought she was gonna shoot him! Why her reaction changed towards Justin is probably because she was in denial over what happened but once others started listening to the tapes and realising what Bryce had done she couldn't ignore it any longer.
I agree. She may have even thought Hannah was lying in regards to that night on the tapes, but once Justin told her it was true; it was like all that denial she held onto came bursting through.
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Old 04-17-2017, 11:25 AM
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Well I haven't watched the last two episodes yet but porter gets the tapes cause he's next on the list actually Bryce is but as the creater said clays not going to give the tapes to a rapist

I am okay now that her parent has them action will be done. I'll comment once I see the next two and a half episodes


Yeah Jess was in deep denial that she tried to suppress

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Old 04-18-2017, 04:35 AM
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Something that is odd

Katherine Langford is from Australia?

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She is from the city which I went to high school
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Old 04-18-2017, 09:30 AM
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I didn't realize she is Aussie either.
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Old 04-18-2017, 06:49 PM
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I didn't realize she is Aussie either.
Her american accent is spot on, we have had Australian actors who fall into the odd slur (eg Poppy Montgomery* on Without a Trace)

* Although its debatable whether or not the likes of Poppy Montgomery could act or not, she looked like someone who got places because of how she looked more than anything else
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Old 04-18-2017, 07:28 PM
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one complain about the show is that some people feel they don't focus on Hannah's depression very well that they make her suicide to much on other people what do you all think about that

Second of what all what would you want s2 to focus on if there is one?
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Old 04-18-2017, 08:39 PM
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season 2 would just be weird without hannah. but maybe they could a similar thing, where each episode focuses on a person or a thing. maybe the parents and the trial or something. I dont know.

I would like to see the aftermath of everything. I mean what was tyler doing with those guns at his house? i wanted to see bryce get arrested. he confessed to the rape!

and what about alex? he was in critical condition, so did he die or not?

also zach still had the note from hannah so was he a reliable narrator or not?

maybe they could do the trial and call each person up to the stand to give their side of events and we can see things play out slightly differently since hannah may not be a reliable narrator, idk.
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Old 04-18-2017, 09:36 PM
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My response on those criticisms is that not everyone's experiences are the same. I do think they touched on Hannah's depression when she would mention how those little notes being left for her made her feel slightly better or later when she said her spirit was killed by certain actions. The one thing I go back & forth on is the leaving the tapes. Some of those people didn't really do things bad enough to be on them IMO. Especially for someone like Clay who didn't really do anything.

As for a second season I think they could still keep Hannah involved by having her still be the narrator. There have been shows that have kept dead characters as the narrator like w/ Desperate Housewives. I'd like to know what happens w/Alex, if Tyler decides to shoot up the school, what happen w/the law suit, if Mr. Porter decides to pass on the tapes, does Bryce get caught, what happens to Justin.There's still a lot they could do IMO.
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Old 04-19-2017, 05:45 AM
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As for a second season I think they could still keep Hannah involved by having her still be the narrator. There have been shows that have kept dead characters as the narrator like w/ Desperate Housewives. I'd like to know what happens w/Alex, if Tyler decides to shoot up the school, what happen w/the law suit, if Mr. Porter decides to pass on the tapes, does Bryce get caught, what happens to Justin.There's still a lot they could do IMO.
They could do the 2nd season from Alex POV so to say.

I mean, they did very good with "this is just how HANNAH saw it, its not how it really happened" IMO. Like the note she thought Zach was just throwing away though he didn't. And also Jessica who said that she wasn't the one who stopped showing up at the Cafe, it was Hannah.

A different POV could give us some different aspects of what had happened. And with Alex being unconscious - maybe even in a coma (I do not want him to die) - this could be an option.

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Old 04-19-2017, 06:43 AM
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Something that is odd

Katherine Langford is from Australia?

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She is from the city which I went to high school
I just went and looked it up, and me too. Interesting to learn these things. Her american accent is really good.

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Especially for someone like Clay who didn't really do anything.
That was my concern when I started watching, like.. was it really fair to some of these kids for the blame for her death to be put on them like that? Especially when it could add to their own problems. And poor Clay was going crazy that he did something wrong and did still ultimately feel responsible.

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Some of the things some people did was minor, but I think it added to how she ended up feeling, and so she blamed them, those actions to getting her to that point.
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Old 04-19-2017, 01:30 PM
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In the case of clay I am just really mad that Hannah tortured him emotionally for 10 tapes thinking he did some thing wrong. She could have said not everybody on the tapes wronged me and Tony could have said you didn't kill Hannah

I don't like porter and he's pretty high on the list cause he was an adult but him telling you can't love someone to life is true.

Many people have crushes but that doesn't mean if you don't tell your crush they'll kill themselves
I just hope if there is s2 they get away from that mentality
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Old 04-19-2017, 10:33 PM
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Some of the things some people did was minor, but I think it added to how she ended up feeling, and so she blamed them, those actions to getting her to that point.
Oh yeah, I get how it all added up and did get Hannah to that point, along with her depression.
And I think there was things that should have come to light, but it's complex in that it's also a heavy burden for the kids to be made to listen to the tapes and essentially be blamed for Hannah killing herself.
And Alex attempted suicide (don't know if he succeeded) at the end, and I'm sure at least part of that was because of the tapes.

I read some criticism of the show yesterday, but what I think is good about it is how it should make people think about how they treat people and how what they do and say can have a great impact on others. In other words: be nicer.

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She could have said not everybody on the tapes wronged me and Tony could have said you didn't kill Hannah.
Instead of him making out like what Clay did was the worst, and saying yes he did kill her. That annoyed me because I guess it was done for affect and drama going into the next episode, but it was untrue.
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Old 04-19-2017, 11:09 PM
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australians tend to have better accents that british people from what ive seen on tv . (except phoebe tonkin lol. her english accent is a bit rough)

but bob/eliza from the 100 and kj from river dale are all aussies and they have great accents.

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yeah i think this is what they are trying to get across.

in terms of making clay think he had done something wrong, i think that was just a way to confuse the audience and make the wonder why clay was on the tapes and if he actually did do something to hannah. it was all about the suspense aspect.

(he should have listened to all the damn tapes in one night lol)

but yes, things were just overdramatic at times just for plain old entertainment purposes. But I still really liked it.

what i dont get is that everyone knew that clay was listening to the tapes slowly. Yet all they did was threaten him and whine and complain and worry about what they were gonna do. And instead, they did nothing. Why didnt they try to steal the tapes?

and then clay never even exposed them, tony was the one that took them to the parents! it should have been clay. I wish tony had been more in the dark about it or something, it would have made more sense IMO for him to want to help clay not really understanding what was going on. But tony heard the tapes. He knew what everyone did and still didnt come forward. SO WTF.
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Old 04-19-2017, 11:21 PM
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I'm torn, part of me would love a S2 simply because I thought it was such a well done, thought provoking show and there are many cliffhangers to be put to bed. However the other part feels a second season is unnecessary a lot of the cliffhangers we can just use our own minds to answer the questions or maybe they should be left open ended. Hannah's part of the story is essentially done, the title of the show specifically refers to 13 reasons why she killed herself we know them now, any other story would be irrelevant to that.
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