~MelBelle~

Ann357

Good episode. I am anxious to see if Jason's death result in any change in Charlie.

Lutesse

I was so sorry Jason died, although it wasn't unexpected; but the way he died was really harsh.
I can't blame Charlie - she had no choice and she'll be devastated by it - but the one I consider most responsible for his death is Tom. He totally failed his son.

Sad to say, an episode featuring his character's death was the very best acting we've seen from J.D. Pardo in the entire series. Same for Tracey.

R.I.P., Jason.

Musicchild

I agree. It kind of tugged at my heart strings when Jason was literally pouring his heart out to Tom, but Tom didn't seem to care much.

Well now Tom will have a grudge against anyone with last name Matheson.

Oceanic

It was a good episode. Too sad Jason had to die... The way Charlie acted when Jason came to their camp at the beginning of episode was a little weird to me. Last episode she punched him in the face and now this. I was under impression they had some love relationship last season and were separated in the tower (Charlie got inside and Jason was left outside). Last episode was the first time they met since last season and it was such a cold meeting...

Could someone please recall what Rachael and that guy from Dunken people were talking about? Was there anything important? I missed it

Aaron and Priscilla... So, nano-bugs now can get inside human body and control their thought and so on? Why they didn't get inside Aaron's body instead? I don't really like this storyline, but I guess it's nice to have something parallel to Patriots.

It's still not clear how Jason was able to return to his normal condition after his number was read. But he did it somehow. And Miles and co. don't know about this trick (but Charlie heard about number thing from that bold guy).

The preview for the next episode was the shortest ever showing Charlie and Charlie and Tom... Was it my local thing?

Ann357

Jason's ending



Also NBC's review:

Lutesse

Thanks for those, Anne!

Tracey's comments were so good and she was tearing up ... I don't think she was only acting in Jason's death scene.
I can see why it felt a lot like losing Danny again, to her.

Oceanic - I think it must be that the "activation" of reading the cadets' numbers must wear off after a time. They can't be killing machines 100% of the time, they have to appear normal.
That's a loose end I'd like to have explained.

It doesn't seem like the Nanos are controlling Priscilla's thoughts, just her body - as in "possession." Her own consciousness is still there, sort of in a dreamlike state?
Maybe they don't realize what they're doing could be interpreted as demonic. Or maybe they don't care.

Ann357

Your welcome. I thought Charlie only had one choice in the end...unfortunately that was killing Jason. I've not been happy with Charlie this season so I'm hopeful that Jason's death results in some changes...she has seemed so shut down this season which we have had some insight into why in recent episodes.

I'm also interested if Miles' actions change his and Rachel's relationship.

Did folks notice that Miles went through a window again last night?

Lutesse

I felt like the Charlie we've seen this season is the natural evolution of someone who started out good but had experienced so much violence and death that her psyche is damaged almost beyond repair.
Simple existence seems hopeless and temporary, at best.
That's just my take on it. It seems pretty realistic to me. I liken it to PTSD - except it isn't "post" yet.

Too funny! Miles did go through the window at Blanchard's!

Hero of Time

This was such a great episode! But so sad as well. I'm so sorry for Jason, he was always getting the shorter end of the stick since the show began. This will have a great impact on Charie and Tom, and I can see that it why the writers did it, but it's still heartbreaking. And to be honest, it makes me a little disappointed and upset at the writers because Jason was stuck with Tom this season and barely interacted with other characters, especially Charlie. They obviously had a connection and it was completely ignored for 17 episodes, which is almost an entire season. What was the point of it since they were going to kill off Jason and only let him interact with Charlie for one episode? Why not let Charlie and Jason have those 17 episodes to develop their relationship and themselves as characters together? I don't understand. JD will be missed, though, he did a great job. I woud keep Jason instead of Connor, just saying. I think his character is a letdown and he sounds like a brat.

There wasn't enough Rachel, but her scenes were great. I wouldn't be surprised if the guys started following her instead of Monroe . She's right about him. As funny as the spanking scene was, Monroe is a bad influence on Miles, but I don't blame him for every bad thing Miles has done, like some people on Tumblr do blaming Miles for Monroe's doings.

The last few minutes were awesome, and I can see why Miles shot the kid, but I hope he doesn't go on a downward spiral again. Rachel changes him for the better.

I'm glad "Nanitescilla" already revealed herself, and I can't believe Aaron banged the nanites . I'm wondering why it wants to be human. I hope Aaron finds a moment to tell Rachel everything.



OMG I didn't, I need to re-watch .

Against_all_odds

I didn't catch all of it on Wednesday,but holy crap. I knew that the Neville's had been pidgin-holed, but Jason had more potential. He could have had his revenge and he could have tried to help them with the program. Tom treated him like dirt and he was the world's crappiest father.

Miles has always pissed me off,but at least he actually gives a crap about Charlie. Even when she couldn't get her stuff together, he managed to get it and not push her and make her defensive.

I feel really bad for Charlie, but the more screwed up she gets and the more cold and harsh she becomes, the more Monroe becomes right for her. She's more capable of being a leading lady now and she can kick ass w/o trying to be a man. She still has sense in her head and emotion,but she's slowly becoming dead inside.

This. I never liked the idea of Jason/Charlie,but he loved her. Connor just met her,he is a brat and doesn't have a sense of family to ground him. Jason with just Tom was and is toxic-He picked Charlie because he needed to feel loved. Tom's ambitions cost him his family, so screw him. Also,him coming back to OUAT won't be so bad.

Jason could have made Charlie slightly less broken,but instead,she killed her first love and had to hold him in her arms.The actor was great and I could feel their chemistry,I just disliked the pairing for shallow reasons. Connor is hot, but even if he was raised by a mobster, he's too effin sheltered. He had no idea why his mom sent him away until now, he opened up a can of worms that can't be put back and dug his own grave.

I doubt he'll live past the next episode. If this one was the 2nd shocker,then obviously Tom won't survive the standoff. He's a terrible human being and unlike Monroe,he hasn't really grown as a character. He's the world's crappiest father and only Julia cared about her son. I wanted to hug that poor kid so bad and the is the 2nd time he's gone against Tom.

Hero of Time

I liked them, but ITA. I feel like Connor is just way out of Charlie's league. Jason loved her and had a lot of history with her, despite all that he's done. Ifthe writers want to sell a Connor and Charlie love story, they started it out the worst way possible, IMO.

Oceanic

No new episode for 2 weeks?!

SIC PARVIS MAGNA

THIS! They had the history and were ignored for almost a whole season well done writers honestly.... Whole season been. Let down if you ask me.

Against_all_odds

Whether you ship them or not,he really did. I think that he was too afraid to stand up to his father and picking him over Charlie probably made her wary of him. The Charlotte who tried to comfort him is the real one,not the "I don't trust him" one. Unless he hurt her and she's covering it up,it's OOC.

The shipper in me thinks she's projecting her feelings for Bass, but I don't think it's a love story either way. He's a naive, sheltered mob prince and she's seen just about everything. Let's be realistic: It's a booty call.

Charlie is too screwed up to love anyone now and may not even love herself. I hate that she's going to go crazy,since I think she loved Jason back. She knew he was a cadet,but the way they are didn't become so personal. Thank god that the adults understood why he'd want revenge.

I wish he had told Charlie about his dad. No one else will listen or give a crap and she saw how much that guy ran his mouth. Then again, Neville will probably scream at her and blame her for his son having a soul and turning on him.

Tom will face the truth, whether he lives or dies:It's his fault. Had he stayed away from Julia,she never would have been kidnapped. Had he tried to be a better father, Jason wouldn't have hated him at one point and gone off the next. He only went along with betraying everyone b/c he was desperate to save the parent that actually gives a crap.