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Old 03-29-2016, 06:25 PM
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[4x17] Beacon of Hope: Episode Discussion

Beacon of Hope
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Arrow Episode 4×17 – “Broken Hearts” (airing March 30)
Brie Larvan (guest star Emily Kinney) breaks out of jail and turns up at Palmer Tech threatening to kill everyone unless she gets the bio-chip that is implanted in Felicity’s (Emily Bett Rickards) spine. When Oliver (Stephen Amell) realizes that Felicity, Thea (Willa Holland) and Donna (guest star Charlotte Ross) are trapped in Palmer Tech with everyone else, he looks to a surprising ally to help Team Arrow save the day.
Michael Schultz directed the episode written by Ben Sokolowski & Brian Ford Sullivan (#417). Original airdate 3/30/16.


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Old 03-29-2016, 09:48 PM
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Thank Gina.

I'm intrigued by the episode. I do wonder why Thea is with Felicity and Donna.
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Old 03-30-2016, 06:07 PM
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- Okay, who’s the idiot that gave a COMPUTER HACKER access to a computer in jail?

- Is Curtis going to become part of Team Arrow? The team needs someone like him to get them all out of their constant grumpy funk. He’s kind of like Cisco.

Speaking of which, Curtis and Cisco need to meet. They’d end up being BFFs.

- What’s up with Wannabe!Yellowjacket?

- I wish Laurel’s Canary Cry was more like Silver Banshee’s scream on Supergirl.

- I’m not a huge shipper when it comes to this show, though I do like Felicity/Oliver… but watching this episode is making me wonder if there’s a possibility for Laurel/Oliver again.

- Awww, geez… Andy is evil and a high-ranking member of H.I.V.E. Johnny won’t be happy about that.
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People mocked and complained when the synopsis came out for Cupid and this episode. Granted I too thought the Cupid episode would suck and it did for the most part. However, this episode turned out pretty good Or at least much better than most expected IMO. It wasn't great by any means but I found it pretty funny.

We got an awesome opening training montages, picking fun of Oliver and pop culture references and a nice L/O scene when people once again expected all Felcity. Sometime this fandom jumps to conclusion based on the smallest things and doesn't wait til an episode airs before judging.

Curtis tracking Olivers or GA phone not sure which it was suppose to be and finding the secret lair is freaking hilarious. I loved him passing out. Also loved the Paul sighting. Those two are growing on me. Curtis joy was funny. He definitely sucks at focusing. I didn't realize Curtis was that great a hacker though?

Flashbacks are still awful. I'm pretty sure I always lose focus during them.

Donna is hilarious this episode. I like her freak outs. Then she switches to F/O in a split second.

The bees multiplying inside Oliver is creepy but I like to see Oliver having consequences to a fight for a change and not a member of his team.

Can we say how awesome we get to see Laurels scream save the day again and be useful?

Donna hasn't shut up the entire episode. It's kind of funny to me. I've found a lot of this episode funny. Maybe that's just me. I'm really enjoying it.

I loved Felicity uses Curtis t-sphere to blow up the wall and get the board out. I not sure why her and Thea stayed behind? Hopefully it makes since later.

Awe, Oliver taken out his pain on on Curtis. It was pretty scary.

Laurel giving the pep talk and asking if he needed to kick anymore puppies?

Curtis and Lance running from a single be why everyone else is being attack by a zillion bees or the bee man thing.

I like that Felcity wants to do more but I don't like this quitting the team story line. Especially since she is the one that wanted to come back.

Andy is bad surprise surprise. Not. I never trusted him.
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I'm a bit confused as to why Alex the campaign manager was even mentioned.

I thought this entire episode was filler until the end. However,it was enjoyable filler. I hate how Laurel is always the one comforting Laurel and he never reciprocates. I'm gad he admitted that part of misbehavior is because he wrecked what he and Laurel had,but he's not a good friend.

Laurel was awesome and no one could deny her credit,which is why I enjoyed this episode. The women were all front and center. The thing that pisses me off about this show is that the female characters always get defeated by the men. Nyssa is much stronger than Oliver and him defeating her so easily is laughable. The only way that would happen is if he gave her a muscle relaxer.

I think Curtis should be Felicity's replacement until she's ready. he did well and even put up with Oliver's yelling.

How the hell did Darhk still have influence when Merlyn told him that he's been abandoned? I'm confused-Is Andy his backup?

It's obvious who dies and even if it's tragic,it's a good choice. Everyone's going to cry,it's why Felicity is so pissed off and of course Barry would show up. If they had killed one of the ladies everyone would have s**t up. I really did think it would be Quentin,but maybe he was spared because he's in the current verse of the comics,I don't know.
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I thought this entire episode was filler until the end. However,it was enjoyable filler.
Yea it was filler but enjoyable. Also imagine it's the last filler episode of the season. After the ending andy reveal and the promo that looks like the death happens. I think from here on out it will be high gear till the end. And im not sure I ready for it.
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I throughly enjoyed the episode and for once I can say I was glad that the writers gave Oliver and Laurel some substance in this this episode.
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I throughly enjoyed the episode and for once I can say I was glad that the writers gave Oliver and Laurel some substance in this this episode.
I agree. It was my favourite episode so far this season. Laurel had so much to do

Curtis and Laurel should get more scenes.. they were fabulous
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I agree. It was my favourite episode so far this season. Laurel had so much to do Curtis and Laurel should get more scenes.. they were fabulous

I know and laurel comment to Oliver about kicking puppies was funny lol
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Aside from Cisco,Curtis is Laurel's only fan. I mean,her sonic scream is so badass that it almost burst Oliver's eardrums. Explain to me again how she's not cool enough? Aside from him, she's the most powerful member of the team. Thea has fighting skills,but she doesn't have the same high-tech stuff that Laurel and Oliver do. Maybe Sara did,but I don't think I've seen Thea with anything on the same level as Oliver.

It's so crazy how when Andy was bluffing and Lyla swore at him. She felt bad about being wrong and invited him into her home. She was right all along and he's going to to do something so up.

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I know and laurel comment to Oliver about kicking puppies was funny lol
Doesn't she know? Oliver secretly kicks puppies and eats babies so that he can keep the small capacity for joy he has. He's like Vandal Savage-He has to eat his kids to survive. It's the only way he can maintain whatever tiny ability to be polite to laurel he has.
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I'm a bit confused as to why Alex the campaign manager was even mentioned.
He's Thea's boyfriend.

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It's obvious who dies and even if it's tragic,it's a good choice. Everyone's going to cry,it's why Felicity is so pissed off and of course Barry would show up. If they had killed one of the ladies everyone would have s**t up. I really did think it would be Quentin,but maybe he was spared because he's in the current verse of the comics,I don't know.
You think Diggle?
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You think Diggle?
The episode hasnt aired here yet but everyone that Ive seen tweeted and recapping the episode hasnt even mentioned Diggle as a possibility. Some people think the episode gave Paul (Curtis husband) anvils that he might die and most said there was a lot of closure given to Laurel.

Im excited to see the episode though based on everyones reactions especially the awesome sister in law bonding betwee n Felicity and Thea and Oliver chanelling his heart break and missing Felicity into some hot dummy work outs thanks to some pretty gifs on tumblr
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I know and laurel comment to Oliver about kicking puppies was funny lol
That line was hilarious. I cracked up.

Oh and Malcolm's line to Darhk about performance anxiety happening to men their age all the time.
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Okay I just finished watching and I loved the episode. It was a different tone to what Arrow normally does but I think it worked and I hope that Arrow takes its cues from this episode in the future by balancing out light hearted entertainment episodes with gritty, darker sombre episodes. Another solid episode in a solid and enjoyable season.

I like that even though Olicity didnt have many scenes together this still felt like a very important Olicity episode in terms of their path here on out both for Oliver and Felicity as individuals and their path to reunion. Both of them had given up hope or lost faith in who they were or where they go from here post breakup and by the end of the episode both of them through some encouragement from their friends found that hope within themselves and by themselves and effectively began to light their own path and collectively decide yo be a beacon of hope for others.




I feel this was a promising first step to their path back to each other. Also loved the training sequences coming back while Oliver dealt with his "ten kinds of pain" over missing Felicity and his frustration at the loss. Also I totally think we are suppose to take Olivers agression towards Curtis as being due to Curtis touching close to home for Oliver because he reminds him of Felicity when she first joined his crusade.

And who knew that I would find intense gaving at each other across a swarm of bees romantic But I did

Love love LOVED the Donna/Felicity/Thea team up and the Thea Felicity friendship. That was a very succesful combination and I hope to see more of it. I also hope to see more Curtis and Paul and Curtis and Lance and more Lance cracking quips in the lair for that manner. Just a lot of fun pairing combinations in this ep and the inclusion of Curtis having his own hero moment brought a fun a different energy to the show. It reminded me of a Chuck episode.

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The Oliver Laurel scenes are nice and show the friendship that has formed between them after everything they have been through, there was an element of closure there and reestablishing their history for events to come. I also appreciate that it was Laurel who specifically stated and spelled out that Oliver and Felicitys breakup rests on Olivers shoulders alone and the lies he told and not anything (or anyone) else.

All in all a very hopeful episode not just from the title and tone or theme of the episode but it gave me confidence that the show is going to be fine and the characters and writing will be fine regardless of what fall out is to come from the next few episodes.
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That line was hilarious. I cracked up.

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Yeah! I thought that was funny too. I am starting to think that Laurel will be the one to help Oliver through all the pain.
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