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whoops. *grabs AnW Scott n Hope poster and runs*
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Hank and Janet are supposed to be contemporaries with Tony Stark, Steve Rogers, Thor, Hawkeye, and all the other Avengers, so sooner or later, however long it takes, the MCU will have to reflect that because Marvel is not going to age Hank and Janet in the comics or retire them. And since the only reason that Hope even exists is because of Edgar Wright, I wouldn't plan on her existing beyond Evangeline Lily's contract. Once she leaves the role, I'm sure Marvel is gonna want to promote Janet asap so she doesn't have her legacy affected, similar to what DC did with Hal Jordan. __________________
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Also, Hank and Janet used to be featured in the Earth's Mightiest Heroes cartoon, but guess who is in the Avengers Assemble cartoon? Yep, Scott and Hope, the Wasp who doesn't exist in the comics. So do I think that Marvel Studios and Marvel Comics have reached an agreement to keep Hank and Janet out of the comics and cartoons while Scott and Hope are in the movies? Yes, I do. Otherwise we'd have them back in the comics already. It's been three years, sum1. Three years that Hank has been trapped inside Ultron. Three years that Janet has sat on the sidelines as Nadia takes her rightful place. Peter Parker didn't have Doctor Octopus' mind in control of his body for this long. It only took a year for Peter's mind to take back control of his body, but three years later and Hank and Janet are still out of action. And all because of this Scott/Hope nonsense in the MCU. All because of Edgar Wright, who has fallen back into obscurity, having made just one film in the last five years, Baby Driver, a movie that critics liked but hardly anyone saw. Hank and Janet have to suffer because of this wanker? So until I see Hank and Janet back in the Avengers in the comics and animation, I'm going to continue to assume that their return is dependent on them being featured in the MCU as their younger, proper selves in the Avengers. All else is just conversation. __________________
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If you're right, you may be waiting a very long time.
I don't think Disney is very interested in putting a young Hank and Jan in the MCU. I don't think it's a priority for them. I don't think they care. They're certainly not going to mess up the MCU they're so proud of by rebooting just a part of it, so you'll have to wait until they reboot the whole thing. If and when the MCU is rebooted you might get a young Hank and Jan, but I don't see it being rebooted any time soon. They've got too much riding on the current version of the MCU. It's too successful to just abandon and replace. Remember, their Ant Man and the Wasp movie is a critical and commercial success right now. That certainly doesn't encourage them to get rid of Scott and Hope and replace them with younger versions of Hank and Jan. Quote:
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Also, if next year's Infinity Wars storyline in the comics(the sequel to Infinity Countdown) finds some way of releasing Hank Pym from the Soul Gem and returning him to his body, then Marvel is gonna have to explain why there's a young Hank and Janet in the comics but an old Hank and Janet in the movies. I know this isn't that important an issue for you, sum1, but that's exactly why you don't see this from my point of view. Hollywood might not care, but the writers and execs at Marvel Comics will, and they're gonna be talking to Feige about when and how they can work Hank and Janet back into the comics and animation. If Peyton Reed is serious about doing a prequel movie about young Hank and Janet, then there's no reason why this movie can't find a way to move Hank and Janet to the present day and have them in the Avengers. The whole Quantum Realm and Infinity Gauntlet storyline provides a lot of possibilities. Who could've predicted back in the 2000's that Days of Future Past would reboot Cyclops and Jean Grey in the movies they way they did? __________________
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I need to.chat up and read all this ..
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When are you going to go watch it, Petra?
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And I def agree w/ you on that not everyone who read comic even tho I know some are okay w/ MCU movie who read the comic, but either way, not everything have to be exact the same way as the comic like compare to books that actual turn into movies/tv shows.. Shrug.. __________________
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I like your Gamora avie. Zoe Saldana is a very good actress. Does quality work in Star Trek too.
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I've edited my post here and I've decided to PM you instead, sum1. This shouldn't be on an open board.
Also, I'll avoid posting here again until I see Hank and Janet as the main Ant-Man and Wasp in the Avengers movies, which is what any REAL comic book fan would want. We don't need more than one Ant-Man and Wasp, and the only Ant-Man and Wasp we need are the ones who have been in the Avengers comics for 50 years, and that's Hank and Janet. We don't need D-list, irrelevant characters like Scott Lang that Marvel has already killed off once before, nor do we need non-existent characters like Hope who wouldn't be in the MCU if not for overrated British filmmakers like Edgar Wright. __________________
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Hank Pym: Ant-Man/Giant-Man/Goliath/Yellowjacket; founding member of the Avengers; creator of Ultron; 50 years of history in the Avengers. Scott Lang: Ant-Man; minimal involvement in the Avengers. Janet Van Dyne: The Wasp; founding member of the Avengers; leader of the Avengers; 50 years of history in the Avengers. Hope Van Dyne: Nonexistent; Zero history with the Avengers; Zero history in Marvel Comics. It's not about "everything having to be like the comics." If that were true, then Tony Stark, Steve Rogers, Thor, and Bruce Banner "wouldn't have to be in the MCU" either, but they are. It's about who belongs in the MCU, who has earned the right to be in the MCU and the Avengers, and who is most relevant to the Avengers storyline to make the transition from page to screen seamless. And since Edgar Wright's Ant-Man was never meant to be in the MCU, not compatible with the story the MCU was telling, was described by both Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige and actress Evangeline Lily as "just wasn't working" and "didn't fit" with the MCU, and Edgar Wright only ended up quitting the production, I honestly do not understand why anyone keeps arguing this point with me when I've already established that this was flawed from inception. __________________
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