ScarletCourt

Can you put the bit of new/spoilers into SP tags like this

or delete it. No spoilers are allowed on the TV boards. Thanks!

Anthea82

Done! I didn't see it as a spoiler lol!

ScarletCourt

Thanks! I actually heard the same news but didn't post it. There's a DA spoiler thread here on the spoiler forum. You can post DA spoilers there. I'm always checking the thread.

L i N d $ @ y

I haven't. I think the last I saw of him before D.A. was Stardust.

I do like Lavinia. She's a sweet girl and is nothing but kind to everyone. Sir Richard I didn't like. I don't really feel that he's that much of an obtacle to M/M as was Lavinia but I love that Fellowes took that time to introduce them and have M/M be apart for a time. And Iain is so amazing in Game of Thrones, I don't even know how he had time to shoot s2 of D.A. and shoot s2 of GoT.

I don't like Ethel, Jane...I'm 50/50, I like Lang and Evelyn. Although Ethel was a welcome addition because I don't want all the maids to be super nice plus O'Brien had someone challenging her now. But overall, Ethel's storyline was unnecessary but I'm thinking we see another good & noble side of Mrs. Hughes because of it.

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Zoe Boyle at a polo match in London



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Purple Rocket

I think it's a shame that Sir Richard ended up the way he did in the Christmas Special. He was pleasant enough in his first episode, and I have to admit I liked the way he dealt with Vera in 2.05, but after the scene in 2.06 where he warned Mary not to trifle with him, it was only going to go one way.

I never felt that he and Lavinia were credible thorns to the M/M relationship. As usual, it was Matthew and Mary themselves who were the biggest obstacle to their own happiness.

I think my favourite recurring character remains Evelyn. He's just another good egg. It's a shame we didn't see him in S2. I was hoping we would when Mary mentioned him.

ScarletCourt

I agree that Sir Richard had potential. It is a shame that he had to threaten Mary like that in 2x06.

I think Lavinia could have been credible if we could have seen scenes between her and Matthew alone before he sent her packing in 2x05. If you watch closely, the scene where he dumps her after finding out about his lack of ability to sire children is the first scene between them alone. After all, he had loved her enough to propose to her. Before that, Violet, Rosamund and Mary all had scenes with Lavinia alone.

Loved Evelyn Napier. His only flaw was that he brought Kamel Pamuk to Downton. Hopefully, he gets invited to M/M's wedding.

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I'm hoping that won't be the last we'll see of him.

I think the whole Matthew/Lavinia relationship was sweet but it wasn't written enough to make me worried about Matthew/Mary. I'd have to say the same thing for Sir Richard & Mary. I agree with what Hazel said, M/M's obstacles were their own happiness.

Purple Rocket

Yes. I actually found the Mary/Kemal scenes uncomfortable, certainly the scene in Mary's room. I don't know if Julian Fellowes intended the scene to be as ambiguous as it seems to have been. It certainly caused a lot of debate. Some found it appealing or romantic. I definitely didn't.

It had nothing to do with my preference for M/M either, as I admit to not really cheering for them early in S1. It wasn't until the end of 1.07 and then throughout S2 that I wanted Matthew and Mary together.

But I'm afraid I never liked Kemal. He was too predatory for my taste.

ScarletCourt

I wasn't comfortable with the Mary/Kemal scenes either. I'm definitely not a diehard M/M fan. lol. I'm not sure how some can find it appealing or even romantic. BTW, when you said it generated a lot of debate, were you on TWoP? They have a ban on Mary/Kemal discussions because it was done to death!

Purple Rocket

Yes, I was over at TwoP for a while, though I mostly just read rather than posted. But the reaction there to the Mary/Pamuk scene suggests it was problematic for quite a few others as well.

Not posting over there at the moment, though, as it became a bit too anti Sybil/Tom, and especially anti Tom.

Anthea82

I found the Mary/Pamuk scene uncomfortable too, because I thought it was made in an ambiguous way.


Zoe Boyle has a lovely smile, but what the heck is she wearing?

ScarletCourt

Purple Rocket: Me and another poster here on the S/T thread post on TWoP to fight to anti-Tom and anti-S/T comments there. I'm ScarletAngel on TWoP.

Anthea82: I think Zoe is wearing a shorts/jacket outfit with a blouse and nylons. Very interesting combination.

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Same here.

I know but I think she can pull it off better than most perhaps?

Anthea82

Ehm I meant that I didn't like it, not really fit for that sort of event.