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But you probably didn't mean it to come off like that and I probably misinterpreted so let's not start a fight about this. Plus we are off topic. PS. I disagree that people shouldn't be snarky towards fictional characters. I think that's fully acceptable. Should not be hurting any real people. __________________
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I'm honestly sorry if you feel offended, then, but believe me it was not my intention . I accept the view that people may not want children because they are afraid of losing their freedom, but many just blow it out of the proportion and start claiming that children are in general a big obstacle to freedom and fulfillment in life (and sometimes start to ridicule people who find fulfillment in having families). Maybe I simply worded my thoughts badly and chaotically and it came off like that. Anyway, I do not, for sure, intend to start any fight . I only hope that you'll no longer be offended by my post. Let's just think about it as a misunderstanding and forget about it .
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I'm not offended anymore and I believe you didn't mean it like that. That was just the way it looked to me and made me feel. So misunderstanding, no hard feelings and friends again.
And I do agree with that: less hate the better. I try to remember that and live by it as much as I can even if I don't always succeed. __________________
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I'm afraid I started this with my "snarky comments" comment.
The truth is I was honestly shocked when I read on another forum a whole string of posts stating that Sybil's pregnancy "ruined" her and she would never have adventures again. That's just patently untrue. All sorts of very important high-profile women have families. Sure, it's a challenge but it's eminently doable. And family life presents its own adventures. That's all I meant. I guess it's true that if Cora seemed happy then the tone of the letter was probably positive. I don't mean to sound corny, but when you're young and in love the idea of having a baby with your partner can be incredibly happy-making. |
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If you looked, I'm sure there were part time work options, but like today most probably didn't pay very well and likely not in nursing. ETA Quote:
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I was going to weigh in on the snarky discussion, but, as all parties seemed to have resolved this, more's the better and I will stay out of it.
Good on all you concerned, BTW, for your handling of said discussion. I have an idea to consider, if you wish. It has occurred to me that Sybil may not really be set on nursing as a career...it was just a way to feel useful during WWI and something she felt she could easily continue afterwards. Could it be that it is the "wanting to be useful" as opposed to the "nursing" angle that Sybil would be able to follow, children or not. What would be avenues that she could pursue (any and all with Tom's support, I have to assume) that would fulfill her in that way? Thoughts??????? |
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Sybil's biggest barrier in terms of finding other avenues of useful, good paying work is her lack of education. If you recall, governesses are only good for learning French and how to curtsey and the Granthams never sent their children to school. So while she's bright and uses her mind to consider and make carefully considered decisions, if she wants to not just work in a factory, she will need to go and further her education first. If that's the case, can she and Tom afford for her to a) not look after the child and have to pay someone else to do so and b) can she afford the time to do the learning necessary to bring her to a point where she could consider for example going to medical school to become a doctor? Even if she wants to be a teacher, she will need to bring her skills up to par in order to learn to teach a class.
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Interesting little statistic:1920 was the biggest birth year on record in the UK. Proportionately speaking, not even the post-WWII Boom beat it. The birth rate fell sharply in the decade that followed, but in 1920 the Bransons were in good company.
I could see Sybil wanting to stay involved/useful outside the home even if it doesn't mean holding a job. Or she might be one of those writers' wives who help with typing and editing. But I think you're right:she won't be opposed to being a homemaker. |
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Oh for sure, she'd be quite active in the community and volunteering. I don't think that part of her would change, even with children in the picture. That's just a part of her unselfish nature.
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Hi, could I be added to the supporters list? .
I've just marathoned the whole of DA in the last week & these two are my OTP for the show. . Loved their SL so far & I'm ridiculously excited for what could be to come The OP is beautiful btw! __________________
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Hello DiamondDreaming Nice to see a new member! The whole of DA in one week - wow, but this show is addictive, so I totally understand it
I’ve also been thinking about Sybil becoming a political activist. Yes, it wouldn’t be paid, but let’s face it, as a woman she did not have much of a chance to contribute to household budget at that time. She decided to find a job after her marriage because she likes having something to do, not because of financial reasons. I think that S/T are both aware and accept the fact that it is Tom who will provide for their family; no matter how progressive they are, there were some obstacles that were insurmountable at that time, and I’m afraid that women’s low earnings were one of them. Money, however, is not of much importance for them here, I think – it is an idea behind it. Hence, I do not think that Sybil would mind unpaid work. What is important for her is to do something useful and contribute to the change concerning women’s position in society. Another advantage of such work would be of course more flexible hours, which are so important for women with families. Last edited by Patano; 04-25-2012 at 12:41 PM |
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I'm going to go back and read through all of the discussion in here, it seems like there has been some rather insightful debate ! __________________
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Welcome Nic!
And yes to Sybil being politically active! One of the best attributes that I admire her for. __________________
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