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Old 03-21-2013, 09:07 PM
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SOMETHING WICKED — As Graduation Day approaches, Caroline (Candice Accola) tries to distract Elena (Nina Dobrev) by focusing on simple tasks like sending out announcements, but Elena won’t be swayed from her new obsession. Sheriff Forbes (Marguerite MacIntyre) calls Damon (Ian Somerhalder) and Stefan (Paul Wesley) to the hospital, where someone has been attacking patients. Still trying to force Katherine (Nina Dobrev) to help her, Bonnie (Kat Graham) refuses to give up on her plan to defeat Silas. As a violent wind storm causes a power outage in Mystic Falls, ghosts suddenly appear – some with good intentions and some bent on revenge. Zach Roerig and Claire Holt also star.
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This detox has the potential to be interesting.

And I think it scared me.

And apparently everyone knows that Shane is Silas? Ooook.

And they used Bonnie so CAROLINE could do the sacrifice. HATE.

But was it all a set up? I don't get it.
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Don´t ask me ... this stuff was confusing as hell.
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I have to admit that I didn't watch the episode. I heard that it was terrible, so I don't want to do that. But I was wondering what happened between Damon and Lexi in the flashbacks. If somebody could please tell me... I want to know the latest retcon.
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I have to admit that I didn't watch the episode. I heard that it was terrible, so I don't want to do that. But I was wondering what happened between Damon and Lexi in the flashbacks. If somebody could please tell me... I want to know the latest retcon.
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Well, hopefully somebody can correct me if I´m wrong, but it was like Lexi wanted to keep an eye on Damon (for Stefan or because she is just that lovely person who wants to help people) and was trying to get him to switch his humanity back on again, I don´t really know what she did but I don´t think she tortured him like Stefan (at least we didn´t see it) but talking to him about it all the time. And Damon then pretended that he switched his humanity back on and it is all because he is in love with Lexi, they slept with each other and then when Lexi woke up it was at the roof top of the bar I guess and Damon had brought her there, locked all the doors so that she couldn´t get in and the sun was coming up and Lexi had to hide somewhere because she didn´t have a day light ring and Damon walked away with his smug face.
And after that Delena talk it seemed like when Lexi came back in season 1 this brought back all this guilt and stuff in Damon and he hated it and also killed her to get rid of that guilt. He made a comparison with no!humanityElena and that she would regret later when the switch is on again and it would cripple her or something.
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and Damon had brought her there, locked all the doors so that she couldn´t get in and the sun was coming up and Lexi had to hide somewhere because she didn´t have a day light ring and Damon walked away with his smug face.
But Lexi is a centuries-old vampire, so why would a few locked doors be a problem for her?


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And after that Delena talk it seemed like when Lexi came back in season 1 this brought back all this guilt and stuff in Damon and he hated it and also killed her to get rid of that guilt. He made a comparison with no!humanityElena and that she would regret later when the switch is on again and it would cripple her or something.
Nope, nope, nope. I reject this canon.

We saw that Lexi was never sexually interested in Damon, so I dislike that the show changed that. Like, the show never works with the trajectory of the female characters when it comes to stuff like that. It bothers me a lot.

Also could you please tell me what this fandom talk about Damon having had a friend in the past was all about? And was Damon, according to these writers, in the punk rock scene, lol?
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So I´m rewatching it, it was Stefan who send Lexi to Damon because she heard of his killings in Mystic Falls and he wanted somebody to look after him because he feared that Damon would get himself killed.

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But Lexi is a centuries-old vampire, so why would a few locked doors be a problem for her?
Hm ... haven´t even thought about that. Damon said he spent all night "reforcing it" so I guess that´s why she couldn´t break out.


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We saw that Lexi was never sexually interested in Damon, so I dislike that the show changed that. Like, the show never works with the trajectory of the female characters when it comes to stuff like that. It bothers me a lot.
Well she rejected him in the flashbacks first but then he got to her with that talk about him switching his humanity back on because he cared about her ... I don´t even know.
She talked to him every night about Katherine because she thought she could bring him back with his love for her He then said he would already have his switch on because of her and she believed him and then they slept with each other.

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Also could you please tell me what this fandom talk about Damon having had a friend in the past was all about? And was Damon, according to these writers, in the punk rock scene, lol?
Well he know Will a guy who Katherine send after Hayley to kill her. He was a guy he knew from that time who had a bar and provided vampires with fake identies. Damon stole the IDs and Will gave it to the vamps I think.
Yep he was I guess ... also so badass wearing a shirt with the anarchy symbol on it.
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So I´m rewatching it, it was Stefan who send Lexi to Damon because she heard of his killings in Mystic Falls and he wanted somebody to look after him because he feared that Damon would get himself killed.
I don't know. That doesn't feel right to me. I feel like the Stefan/Lexi relationship, as written in S3 but also in that S2 flashback, is not one where Stefan can/would make Lexi do anything. Like, I would buy Lexi going after Damon on her own but Stefan sending her? Eh.


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Hm ... haven´t even thought about that. Damon said he spent all night "reforcing it" so I guess that´s why she couldn´t break out.
Lol, Damon, look at your life choices. That sounds so lame to me.
This "reinforcing the door" stuff reeks of BS. Like, what did he do with that door? I may be wrong but as far as I can remember vampires have always been shown to be vervained when they were to weak to open a door/a cage/etc. But I guess the show loves to de-power its characters whenever it is necessary for the plot to happen.


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Well she rejected him in the flashbacks first but then he got to her with that talk about him switching his humanity back on because he cared about her ... I don´t even know.
She talked to him every night about Katherine because she thought she could bring him back with his love for her He then said he would already have his switch on because of her and she believed him and then they slept with each other.
Side-eyeing this so hard
I guess this is another example of the show show-casing Damon as a sexy vampireTM. Nobody can resist him.

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Well he know Will a guy who Katherine send after Hayley to kill her. He was a guy he knew from that time who had a bar and provided vampires with fake identies. Damon stole the IDs and Will gave it to the vamps I think.
Yep he was I guess ... also so badass wearing a shirt with the anarchy symbol on it.
Doesn't sound like a big deal.
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I don't know. That doesn't feel right to me. I feel like the Stefan/Lexi relationship, as written in S3 but also in that S2 flashback, is not one where Stefan can/would make Lexi do anything. Like, I would buy Lexi going after Damon on her own but Stefan sending her? Eh.
She said both of them care for Damon but she said that she hang out with Stefan in the MF and they heard of it and Stefan asked her to help him.
Also ... was Stefan really in the 70s in MF - how could he show up there so shortly after he went there in the 50s (or from when was that video of him in season 1) and the end of the 60s.
I think the Lexi/Damon flashbacks were supposed to be in 1977.


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This "reinforcing the door" stuff reeks of BS. Like, what did he do with that door? I may be wrong but as far as I can remember vampires have always been shown to be vervained when they were to weak to open a door/a cage/etc. But I guess the show loves to de-power its characters whenever it is necessary for the plot to happen.
Especially because the handle seemed to look pretty week. there wouldn´t have been a problem to break this one at least and even that Lexi couldn´t accomplish.
Yep at first I thought he would do something like that also why didn´t he think she could track him down again if he is that sloppy with his killings?
Especially if they are female.


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I guess this is another example of the show show-casing Damon as a sexy vampireTM. Nobody can resist him.
Yup. And then he immediately knew that Elena wanted to trick him because he knows everything in comparison to Stefan who gets tricked again and again.


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Doesn't sound like a big deal.
Was there much talk about it on tumblr? Because that wasn´t even the focus or something, we only saw him show up twice and he was only there because we needed a connection to why Damon went to NY in search of Katherine.
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She said both of them care for Damon but she said that she hang out with Stefan in the MF and they heard of it and Stefan asked her to help him.
Also ... was Stefan really in the 70s in MF - how could he show up there so shortly after he went there in the 50s (or from when was that video of him in season 1) and the end of the 60s.
Well, judging from their previous interactions, Lexi didn't care about Damon. At all. But I could see her going after him, I guess, in her free time, those years when Stefan was off the blood and she had no reason to torture him atm.
Lol, the Sals spend (and have spent) most of their time in MF. Klaus should start calling them small town boys too.



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Yep at first I thought he would do something like that also why didn´t he think she could track him down again if he is that sloppy with his killings?
Especially if they are female.
Well, that's typical of Damon, though. He antagonizes older vampires without thinking things through.
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No, there wasn't much talk. That's why I was suprised when I read about it - because it hadn't been mentioned anywhere else.
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this show is the worst. What have they done to the female characters? they've destroyed so much in one episode!

they had Caroline indirectly kill 12 people so they can validate klaroline.

then instead of a scene between Caroline and Bonnie we get a scene between Klaus and Caroline where she gets shamed and a scene between Bonnie and Stefan where it turns out bonnie has amnesia?? I hope it's fake amnesia. they can't write her out of her own storyline!!

and then they brought lexi back to have her hook up with damon? ugh. please. I'm so disgusted by the way the writers use the female characters to validate the men's manpain.

I want this season over already.
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I just realized that the writers destroyed the season storyline for two characters Bonnie and Tyler for the sake of one character and his ship (Klaus/Klaroline) that is going to leave in two episodes anyways.

This show sucks so much.
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I just realized that the writers destroyed the season storyline for two characters Bonnie and Tyler for the sake of one character and his ship (Klaus/Klaroline) that is going to leave in two episodes anyways.

This show sucks so much.
i can't believe it. i refuse to believe that they're going to give the silas thing to klaus/klaroline. this can't be happening. amnesia, really? ugh. this better not be real. but I'm hearing Bonnie won't be in episode 18? so there won't be a reaction to her amnesia? there willl just be klaroline? I swear if she helps him i'm gonna lose it. they can't dumb her down like this. no.

I should be happy that Tyler's not there to be abused and mocked. but i can't watch Caroline being abused like this, with no one to support her. I just want her to stay at the lockwood mansion and be safe. I hope she's baking cookies with Bonnie in the next episode in the mansion, and it's only Silas taking Caroline's form in those stills. but the reluctant help part of the synopsis makes me believe that they're going to parallel this with 4x13 where she said she would never help him. ugh. misogynistic bullcrap.

I can't believe that a woman is writing this show. it's highly insulting.
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this show is the worst. What have they done to the female characters? they've destroyed so much in one episode!
Three of them got the big hit this episode: Bonnie, Lexi, Caroline.
And it also is implied that you can only be seen as a strong woman and can succeed if you don´t show emotions. That´s why Rebekah and Elena won against Damon this week. This show and it´s image of women. So much hate, I can´t even describe.

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This ship is destroying her.

then instead of a scene between Caroline and Bonnie we get a scene between Klaus and Caroline where she gets shamed and a scene between Bonnie and Stefan where it turns out bonnie has amnesia?? I hope it's fake amnesia. they can't write her out of her own storyline!!
I don´t get it ... if Caroline at least digged the graves then I would have understood why she is there, but why would she stay back with this guy that wanted Bonnie to be killed and shamed her all episode? I just don´t understand it.
I don´t know what to say about Bonnie´s amnesia, still so much rage in me.

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How could they screw up those storylines with so much potential that fast? Only on TVD.


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i can't believe it. i refuse to believe that they're going to give the silas thing to klaus/klaroline. this can't be happening. amnesia, really? ugh. this better not be real. but I'm hearing Bonnie won't be in episode 18? so there won't be a reaction to her amnesia? there willl just be klaroline? I swear if she helps him i'm gonna lose it. they can't dumb her down like this. no.
Nope no reaction from Bonnie. Klaus manpain is more important.

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I should be happy that Tyler's not there to be abused and mocked. but i can't watch Caroline being abused like this, with no one to support her. I just want her to stay at the lockwood mansion and be safe. I hope she's baking cookies with Bonnie in the next episode in the mansion, and it's only Silas taking Caroline's form in those stills. but the reluctant help part of the synopsis makes me believe that they're going to parallel this with 4x13 where she said she would never help him. ugh. misogynistic bullcrap.
And I just can´t believe their are fans of her, of HER character that are cheering that she needed to be told what is going on, please Fi explain me how this works? Please do because I´m so flabbergasted and don´t know how to answer to that.
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I just want her to go away.
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Three of them got the big hit this episode: Bonnie, Lexi, Caroline.
And it also is implied that you can only be seen as a strong woman and can succeed if you don´t show emotions. That´s why Rebekah and Elena won against Damon this week. This show and it´s image of women. So much hate, I can´t even describe.
I'm still in shock. women are only "strong" when they turn off their emotions. omg. we're going back in time with this show. it's like the middle ages.

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I don´t get it ... if Caroline at least digged the graves then I would have understood why she is there, but why would she stay back with this guy that wanted Bonnie to be killed and shamed her all episode? I just don´t understand it.
I don´t know what to say about Bonnie´s amnesia, still so much rage in me.
Klaroline will destroy Caroline and turn her into a tool so that Klaus can say he was right all along. that's the message of the show, right? always listen to Klaus and Damon. they're always right.
I'm still shocked that there was no Caroline/Bonnie scene after Caroline saved her.
the amnesia thing!!! ahhh, i can't. nonononono.

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How could they screw up those storylines with so much potential that fast? Only on TVD.
they run through the storylines and only stick to the ones that prop manpain.

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Nope no reaction from Bonnie. Klaus manpain is more important.
this can't be happening. they can't just write a whole episode that stems from JP's wet 50 shades of Klaus dreams and ignore the girls' point of views. oh wait... they can...


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And I just can´t believe their are fans of her, of HER character that are cheering that she needed to be told what is going on, please Fi explain me how this works? Please do because I´m so flabbergasted and don´t know how to answer to that.
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no one can tell me that klaroline fans actually like Caroline. there's just no way. they already took his side when he stabbed her with that pole and let her die. now they're cheering when she is turned into a submissive little blonde who "skipped geometry" and needs to be shamed by her abuser?
they like a misogynistic man on top who tells them what to do, I guess. there's nothing else i can think of, Kathrin. because there's literally nothing for Caroline in all of this mess. I've actually seen people complain that Caroline doesn't look pretty anymore. Losing everything and being abused and manipulated apparently is no reason to not look pretty.
kcers are misogynists. I refuse to believe anything else. the show is as sick as the fandom, tbh.


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