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Old 04-27-2012, 04:37 PM
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Revenge Theories and Speculations {Spoiler Free!} #1: We all want to know more about the Initiative.

Welcome to the 1st Theory & Speculation Thread!

Burning Questions:

-Who murdered David Clarke?
-Did Conrad pull the strings to make it happen or was he acting on orders?
-Why David was made the scapegoat?
-Was he really the saint Emily makes him out to be or was there a darker side that she doesn`t know?
-How bad things are going to get with Charlotte?
-Where is Takeda keeping Amanda?
-Does Victoria plan on taking Revenge on Jack and Declan?
-Will we get to see more of Daniel`s dark side?


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Old 04-28-2012, 06:54 AM
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Thank you so much for this thread!

Who killed David Clarke?

I think David Clarke is really dead as a doornail. The entire show is about Amanda taking revenge on the people who she thinks wronged her. If he is still alive it will be the "jump the shark" moment for the show.

As to who killed him: Conrad is the obvious choice. So I hope there is a twist somewhere. I would love it if it was Victoria. But Grand Grayson is just as easily a suspect as Conrad. Did Conrad tell Frank to get rid of DC?

The show is about Victoria vs Amanda. It would be a delicious twist if Victoria told Conrad to make DC disappear. Conrad and David are fools in love with the Queen.

Why was David the scapegoat?

It seems that a lot of powerful people are in the conspiracy and just a little bit digging by real investigators would've revealed the truth. This is why I am certain David is not the sweetie pie Victoria and Amanda remembers him to be.

I think he might be the true villian of the piece. There is something too clean about him.

Poor Charlotte

I think if she dies or something bad happens to her, it will finally bring the Graysons out iof their coma and they will unite. It will also be the last part of DC Amanda loses.
I am thinking ever drug overdose or running away andf becoming a hooker to support her habit. It's a soap after all

I hope Tekada has killed real!Emily. Never cared for him or her.

I hope Daniel gets Darth Vader-dark. He is all screwed up now. I can't wait to see how dark he can get. Murder oerhaps?

Lastly. I think there will be a big cliffhanger for the end of the season. I hope Declan dies but I have a sickening feeling it will be my beloved Conrad.

I really hope Conrad stays on for the remainder of the series but after the latest episode I am worried.
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Old 04-28-2012, 07:30 AM
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Who murdered David Clarke? This is one is a big one, he is really dead lol, but i think if he was murdered then its def has to do with the Graysons, and maybe Conrad
-Did Conrad pull the strings to make it happen or was he acting on orders? I dont know this, either way
-Why David was made the scapegoat? The easy target, the clean guy - someone who was lesser to what Graysons are, and obviously Victoria having the affair with him...... something else has to be going on as well here
-Was he really the saint Emily makes him out to be or was there a darker side that she doesn`t know? Emily was a little girl, all he remembers is her daddy/daughter moments and so on, but seriously if a man is having an affair with an married woman, even if they did fall in love then something else might of been going, esp if we saw Victoria taking David's laptop once and Amanda saw this..... but i do like to believe David was the good guy, did nothing wrong not as big as what Graysons do, also seeing as Emily has investigating and reasearched for years on every little thing, you would think she would of knew if something wrong happened, she is fully prepared - she's investigated each member each thing
-How bad things are going to get with Charlotte? I am surprised no one is stopping her, they know the girl is taking drugs, and prescribed pills, Emily even told them when the trial started, but i havent seen Con and Vic do anything, atleast put her in some rehab coz she needs it....... she is going down and down, and Victoria goading her and whatever isnt helping, seriously i do see Charlotte turning into her mother one day
-Where is Takeda keeping Amanda? I wont be surprised if he has killed her
-Does Victoria plan on taking Revenge on Jack and Declan? She will keep her options open, if she has to, she will - but hey hopefully Emily will stop it
-Will we get to see more of Daniel`s dark side? I think so, he is changing, and he was going to, his subtle change happened way before he got arrested, his mother's constant lying and how she is and his father's affair and so on, we will see him going deeper and have the edge, i think as he got older, i always he will change, esp having parents like Conrad and Victoria, and finding out how they are....... i dont mostly blame Emily for this
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Thanks for this thread Hot Rod!

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Who killed David Clarke?

As to who killed him: Conrad is the obvious choice. So I hope there is a twist somewhere. I would love it if it was Victoria. But Grand Grayson is just as easily a suspect as Conrad. Did Conrad tell Frank to get rid of DC?
I agree, Conrad or even Grandpa Grayson seem the obvious choices, but what if it was Victoria?

Why have David killed so long after he was imprisoned? Could it be so Amanda would still never be able to see him? From what Nolan said he was killed just shortly before she was released from the detention center when he picked her up the day of her release. Years earlier Victoria had bribed the psychiatrist(name?) and told her to make sure Amanda never saw her father again.
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Who killed DC?
I kind of want it to not be as simple as "the Graysons"... Like if the rabbit hole is too much deeper. Because Grayson Global was laundering money for terrorists, after all...
It seems too easy if she can blame every piece of her father tragedy on the Graysons.

Did Conrad pull the strings to make it happen or was he acting on orders?
It would be interesting if she discovered more things on this (and, they could drag the show for a little longer). Something like, she takes down the Graysons to, just then, know that they weren't the big fish after all and that, she will possibly have to team up with them to have the full Revegenda complete.

Why David was made the scapegoat?
Hm, good question. Now you have me thinking that we've seen a lot of David being a nice daddy and loving Victoria but we doesn't know him at all. So that's a great question to be answered. Even to Emily, I guess.

How bad things are going to get with Charlotte?
I actually see her going into overdose or something like that... Don't know. Everyone knows about her problems now and no one seems to care. Not even Declan anymore.

Where is Takeda keeping Amanda?
Where is Takeda's headquarters? Or maybe he just surfaces from the ground?

Does Victoria plan on taking Revenge on Jack and Declan?
Guess not. Only if one of them really cross her path. For now, I think she doesn't have the motives to do so.

Will we get to see more of Daniel's dark side?
I don't know if it's really a dark side, but I guess that he's becoming more aware of the things that are going on around him. I'm still expecting to see if Emily will find a way to let him know that was Victoria who got him beaten up and how this will impact everything. I think that Daniel can go through many paths right now and it's one of the storylines that I'm looking forward the most, actually...
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Old 04-29-2012, 06:00 AM
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I like every single character on the show except for Declan. I hope if they do sometning "shocking" for the finale, they kill of Declan and I hope Charlotte does it.

I want the Grayson's to unite as a real family at least for a few episodes. And, even if she's DC's daughter, Conrad raised her and loved her and spoiled her. I hope Charlotte remembers who the man is who raised her.

That's why Emily should take revenge on Charlotte and Daniel as well. It's like "Game of Thrones": anyone who isn't us is an enemy.

I am becoming more and more of a Victoria/Conrad shipper. I hope these two will reunite. I was hoping it would've happened when Daniel was arrested but no. The stupid painter came in to waste two episodes

and Conrad being a willing member of the terrorist group, stealing money for the group, framing and killing DC is just a bit too much. A one-dimensional villian is very boring.

Conrad can't be THAT much of a bad guy and David can't be SUCH a good guy. They are not cartoon characters. I hope in the last four eps we learn the better sides of Conrad and worse side of David.

I want to know why I should care about DC and I want to know why I should think Conrad is the bad guy

At this very moment all I care about is the four Graysons. Emily, Nolan, Jack, Declan, DC, Takeda, Amily all of them I don't care about.

Also, I will be heartbroken if Conrad dies.
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I think Jack Porter is the first person to find out Emily's true identity. It makes sense considering the Emiky/Nolan/Jack threesome thing going on. It will make the Emily/Jack/Daniel love triangle even more intense.

I wonder if Victoria and Conrad will ever be civil with each other again? I would really like a love scene between them.

Charlotte is heading for a fall. Pregnant? Overdose? Weird feelings toward non-bio dad?

If Victoria bankrupts Grayson Global what will happen to Daniel and Charlotte's bright future? Won't Edward Grayson be pissed off at his lovely "Vicky"?

Where's Lydia? Is she and Conrad still having an affair? Where's Conrad's firsr wife? What happened to her? Shouldn't she hate Victoria? The way I understand it, Victoria "stole" Conrad from his first wife. If I was the first wife, I'd be pissed. Maybe she really loved Conrad and he leaves her for a woman who doesn't love him.
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Old 05-01-2012, 09:48 AM
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I actually think Daniel will find out first because Jack is so not in the key storylines for now that I can't imagine how he will find out first. I fear for Daniel

I think since Victoria has cashed out her shares so Daniel and Charlotte willbe comfortable, though Daniel won't have Grayson Global to inherit but Victoria probably knows Daniel isn't keen in the business anyway.

I do think Conrad and Victoria won't ever be civil again. Conrad obviously has father issues but Edward Grayson favoring Victoria over his own son makes no sense to me.
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Old 05-01-2012, 10:27 AM
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My money is on Jack finding out first and I think it will happen in the finale.

If Conrad and Victoria spend the rest of their lives trying to destroy one another, won't the story get dull? It was fun for one season but what if the show lasts five seasons?

I read that the creator has plans for at least three seasons, so unless one of them dies, the story has to change up. For at least a little while.

But it is my fear that Conrad will die in the finale. I don't know why I think so but after the last episode, Emily must be thinking of killing him. So, unless she finds out something about Conrad to change her mind, I fear next season the silver fox with the sexiest blue eyes will be absent.

Maybe Charlotte wanted the company? It's kind of Victoria cutting of her nose to spite her face.

Regarding Granpa Grayson, anyone else think he and "Vicky" were just a tad too creepy?
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Yeah Grandpa and Vicky creeps me out too. Maybe Vicky will remarry with Grandpa lol

I actually enjoy watching Conrad and Vicky sparring with each other. The last ep when Conrad asked him to leave him alone to think cracked me up.

I just don't think Conrad will die so soon. If he is a bigger target than Victoria is , where does the show go once he's dead. I mean Emily could still go after Victoria but it has a lesser impact to me.

I wouldn't mind if Jack finds out first so that we can watch Jack and Emily reminscing about their short summer that turned into soulmates for ever
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I re-read what Mike Kelley said at The Paley Festival about Conrad and Victoria's destructive relationship that could last for years. So, unless he is blowing smoke, I feel a bit better about Conrad not being killed off.

I was thinking that maybe Conrad and David both laundered the money for the terrorists. Conrad just realised what mess they were actually in and decided to it would be better to rat on David. If both were actually guilty it would make it a lot easier to put all the blame on David. Plus, it casts Conrad in a better light. Kind of.

And if Emily finds out her father was partially responsible for his own fate, it makes for a great "game-changer"
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I was thinking that maybe Conrad and David both laundered the money for the terrorists. Conrad just realised what mess they were actually in and decided to it would be better to rat on David. If both were actually guilty it would make it a lot easier to put all the blame on David. Plus, it casts Conrad in a better light. Kind of.

And if Emily finds out her father was partially responsible for his own fate, it makes for a great "game-changer"
I have a feeling that it could be the case. Lately i`ve been of the opinion that maybe David isn`t the white knight that Emily and Victoria makes him out to be and he likely was involved in some very shady dealings with Conrad. Whoever the higherups were in the conspiracy, most likely Edward, decided to make David into the fall guy and gave Conrad some orders to make the flame up happen.
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