Hot Rod

northboundtrain

Thank you Hot Rod!

Looking forward to tonight's episode!

Against_all_odds

This episode...

Margaux is a dumbass for believing a word out of Daniel's mouth. Javier is a creepy perv who needs to stay away from Charlotte. Omg...go away, Pascale. No one cares about your fling with Victoria.

I liked Stevie, Jack and Carl's interactions, though. That and Charlotte being around was enough to make this episode watchable.

Why do they keep making the truth so damn complicated? I get that Bary Sloane is a regular, but his father was the one Pascale was talking about? SERIOUSLY?!

I read an article about how the show has gone down since their freshman year and I whole-heartedly agree, even if their barbs at Charlotte and Declan were ridiculous. Season 2 was god-awful for the most part and the more players they add to the mix,the further Emily gets from revenge.

If the entire point was to take down people in that damn photo, why do they keep bringing people who have nothing to do with it around?

northboundtrain

Quick thoughts on the episode. (I'm not going to talk a lot about Jack and Emily because I want to re-watch their scenes tomorrow.)

* I'm having a really hard time keeping the Stevie/Conrad/Victoria/Pascal backstory straight. Are their stories matching or not?

* I had a moment of horror when I thought they were hinting that Jack was Conrad's. Please, show, do not go there. For now, I'm going to take Conrad's explanation about why Jack couldn't be his at face value.

* So, do I have this straight: Whatever Stevie told Conrad (off-screen) caused her to give him the deed to the house and start falling off the wagon? Or did I miss something?

* Javier/Charlotte makes me miss Declan.

* It's strange that we had that big "Charlotte and Daniel agree to plot to take down Emily's friends" scene and nothing really came of it (unless you count Daniel using Jack to manipulate Margaux, I guess). Why put that scene in at all?

* I feel like I missed something about Daniel/Victoria -- why was he so interested in Victoria's love life? Is he trying to get her with Pascal to help Margaux?

Rickylious

I really liked the episode, especially the scenes with Victoria, Daniel and Charlotte, Margaux, and Pascal.

And I could have done without the Emily, Nolan and Jack, Stevie, and Aiden scenes.

Victoria and Daniel are my main reasons for sticking with this show.

Against_all_odds

We've all got our preferences, but Emily is the main character and Nolan and Jack are her partners. They do have to get most of the airtime, even if Aiden irritates me to no end.

No one can. It's like trying to find Waldo and the only one I care about is Stevie. She's new,so we don't know much about her.

I don't want it to be true...but it probably is.

Why else would she give him anything? She hates him, she hates Victoria and she just wants time with her family and to clear David Clarke.

I think we should take Conrad's word for it,but whatever made Stevie give up the deed to the house had to have been huge.


This is one of the things that annoys me the most about the show. It never follows through, it barely develops new characters and they expect us to have Cliff Notes.

I do think Daniel was doing it for Marguax, since helping her helps him.

They shouldn't have bothered with that scene,but Josh Bowman really needs Daniel to be a monster if he sticks around. Going after Nolan and destroying his life, as well as Aiden's would make him do the happy dance. It's still stupid, because Jack is off-limits and Emily's only real ally is Nolan. Aiden will be a lot harder to catch and he'd run before Daniel could get there.

Oh, well...this show. Hopefully, next week puts things back on track.
I have a bad feeling that Margaux's job offer is a sign of things to come.

Rickylious

That may be so, but I don't have to like the main character(s).

Against_all_odds

No, of course not-I'm just saying that they'll always get the most attention. I've never been able to stand Elena on The Vampire Diaries,but I can live with her getting most of the screentime.

Kyls

Season 1 was definitely the best. This season is better than last, but they just need to go back to the basics.. scale back on the amount of characters.

I couldn't follow either, so I'm not sure.
I'm going to presume that Carl was Jack's father unless we hear otherwise. And I hope we don't.

Oh, so that's what happened. I didn't understand.

I guess Daniel isn't done. Interesting though that the one person he told Charlotte to keep out of it was the one person he did play with. Even if it was for different reasons.

jenaya

I really liked this episode

- Margoux is really going down the anti-hero route, not sure if i like it or not.

- I loved how spicy Emily was with Daniel and Victoria, she just loves to P them off (haha)

- I especially loved the Conrad/Stevie scene, i believe it's probably the most emotional we have ever seen Conrad on screen, it shows he's not completely a heartless monster and he too has feelings just like Victoria

- The Victoria/Pascal thing is okay i guess, don't see how long it will last though. I really think the writers need to give us a flashback episode back to 1985 when Victoria was with Pascal and when she met Conrad, would be interesting to see which actor they would choose to cast a young Conrad

- Omg next week is going to be epic! Mason!!

Maeve77

Did you miss Season 2 and the back story about Aidens father being the baggage handler that loaded the bomb on Flight 197? He was blackmailed and Aidens sister held hostage. So it seems Conrad & Pascal have links back to that time and more specifically David Clarke's framing.

So it's not randon at all.

Northboundtrain

I think the above two points are connected. Stevie doesn't want to cause trouble for her new family by taking on Victoria, so she gave Conrad the deeds. We then have a scene with Jack where Stevie is very shaken and nearly takes a drink - I think she knows she's holding stuff back from Jack that will shock him, given his hate of Conrad.

I found this episode ploddy and there was far too much Pascal. Sorry Martinez is just not a great actor imho, and he's taking scenes from a much better one - Henry Czerny.

Javier is going to be a plot device isn't he/ he's going to do something really bad.

Finally, Jack verbalised what some of us have known for a while and what others refuse to acknowledge - Emily is in love/still in love with Aiden. She's not playing him, she's not holding a candle for Jack as they are just becoming friends again. Good for Aiden not rolling over and being Emily's patsy - yeah she hot footed it to Bermuda just for insight?!!

jenaya

Add me on the team thats annoyed with Aiden too. I did like him in S2 but i just find him irritating now, she belongs with Jack

northboundtrain

One good thing about this episode is that I'm not as suspicious about Stevie as I was last week. I do think she's hiding something, but I'm no longer scared that she's trying to manipulate Jack and Emily on the David Clarke thing.


I know...I just can't think what it could be.


Daniel's a lot more interesting to watch this season than he was in S1 and S2, mostly because back then all we ever saw was Victoria, Conrad, Emily and Tyler manipulating him for their own purposes. It got old. I agree that he has more value to the show as a junior Conrad capable of throwing wrenches into the plot as necessary.


I thought that was interesting, too.

I just hope the "Daniel and Charlotte plotting" isn't dropped next week. That has the potential to be an interesting story. At the very least, it gives them both something pro-active to do.


I really hope this isn't the case. The show has already gone to the secret-children-well too many times. Jack should stay a Porter.


Look, I can admit that Emily loves Aiden, as much as I wish she didn't.

But didn't you find that scene in Bermuda to be rather cold on her part? We've seen Emily vulnerable and passionate before, and she was neither of those things in Bermuda. If that was really her best effort at getting Aiden back, then I almost feel sorry for him. She seemed like her heart wasn't in it.

So, I'm sorry, but scenes like that make it hard for me to buy him as the one great love of her life. I still think that's Jack.

Speaking of...

I think you're wrong on this. NW said in his Home and Family interview just the other day that Emily and Jack are still carrying torches for each other, but that their timing has been off. (He said it while introducing the clip we saw last night of Jack and Emily talking about Margaux and Aiden.) And SN has said similar things in the past.

Alwayshappy

The episode was good, but it wasn't as good as the last couple of episodes. I don't really care about that Pascale and/or his history with Victoria. How many suitors can that lady possibly have?

Stevie started as a very interesting character, but now I'm not so sure anymore. She stayed sober for so long, and all of a sudden she gets a relapse again after meeting Conrad. She should have known he was just apologizing as part of a game. He wanted the deeds of the house, and went there with that intention. I don't know what she told Conrad, but guess we will find out.

I just want Emily to have her revenge at last. Those secundary characters are getting a bit old. Suddenly everything and everyone is connected.

Jack/Emily scenes were nice...although I am not a fan of him pushing her to Aiden again. Jack and Emily belong together. That's all.

Oceanic

I just finished watching this episode. It was better compare to previous one.
I was screaming "WHAT?!?" when Jack and Emily was talking about Emily's true love... Aiden... and the following scene Aiden and Emily didn't show any true feeling at all...

I think Jack and Emily could be a good couple. Or just good friends. I remember the scene in season 1 when Emily rushed to Jack and found Amanda... Even Nolan helped Emily to realized Jack is the one back than... Oh well.

Hate Margo. Didn't like her at all in this show and after this episode I hate her even more. And hate her dad as well. How Emily didn't know about him and his involvement if she knew other 1000000 details about everyone involved in her father framing??? And love to Victoria 30 years later... give me a break, soap opera.

Daniel is a jerk. And has been for a while now. I only liked him in Season 1. There was another Daniel back than.

I am DYING to learn what it took Stevie to gave the deed to Conrad!!!! He must be using something against Stevie and I have a feeling it has something to do with David Clark. I hope we are going to learn it soon. I don't think Conrad is Jack's dad at all and in that case I would imagine Conrad will be leaving with sad face realizing he ruined his son's life in so many ways... But Conrad was leaving with the happy smile on his face, so I don't think he was honest with Stevie, but just paying her. And how Victoria got the deed? Now I am totally confused who was the owned of the deed - Stevie? Pascal?

I am not looking for this book writer to be back. he knows who is Emily and I am surprised he never tried to contact anyone... And now he is back in the picture... again?

Well, we have 4 or 5 episodes left for this season. I don't expect any major turns and answers. And I don't expect Season 4 (and don't even want it)... this show is out of air and Mike Keller left knowing this show is dead.

Oh, and I love how Victoria forgot about her favorite son Patrick. It was quick. And took her only a short cry.... Completely useless storyline irrelevant to Emily's original story.