Switched at Birth - What happened to Teo? Will we ever meet Jackson? And other idiosyncrasies of Switched at Birth.

Slayerfan714 · 05-03-2014, 02:01 PM

Hey everyone.

I figured this could be a thread to talk about characters that were mentioned, but have to this day never been seen, or ones that just left, or any other oddities you want to discuss.

Enjoy!

ollibear · 05-04-2014, 08:10 AM

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Hey everyone.

I figured this could be a thread to talk about characters that were mentioned, but have to this day never been seen, or ones that just left, or any other oddities you want to discuss.

Enjoy!

Great idea!

I'm still curious about Noah, too. I mean, I know that he went back to Canada and Daphne said she barely even texted him over the summer, but STILL.

Has anyone been in touch with him this school year? I guess people do disappear from your life sometimes, never to be heard from again. But it would be nice if we got a mention of Noah in a future season.

Jackson is my ABSOLUTE favorite. I want to hear lots more about him on the show. He is such a man of mystery!

I also wonder what is happening with Sharee's mom. I feel certain the writers will shed light on that during Season 3B.

I wouldn't mind seeing Olivia again at some point. It would be interesting if she ran into Bay and Emmett, if they are a couple again when Season 3B returns.

And I wish someone would let us know how Jace if fairing.

What happened to Chip Coto's senate seat? Did he lose it? Jorge's sister mentioned him, and I do not remember what she said.

It would be nice to discover if Chef Jeff married Carrie Raisler (or if she dumped him--my theory).

And I wonder if the Sarah Lazar mystery will ever truly be solved, or if it will just continue without resolution.

What are some other Switched at Birth mysteries? Which mysteries do we most want to see solved?

Slayerfan714 · 05-04-2014, 08:50 AM

I don't know if this is considered mystery, but sometimes I want a clearer timeline of the show. I would love to know their birthdays so I can figure out character traits a bit more.

It's my own personal headcanon that the prom episode occurred (in the show's timeline) towards May/June even though the episode aired in March. I I know, it's a dumb nitpick, but it helps to figure out when Emmett's birthday is in relation that.

Maybe I think about these things too much

But sometimes the unclear passage of time annoys me. And we never seem to get actual confirmation since LW has stated a few times they like to have a mushy timeline. It's clearly to drive me crazy!

AnneH · 05-04-2014, 10:19 AM

i wish we had a more firm timeline too. emmett's timeline to bay made things even more messed up haha.

i especially want to know when emmett's bday is.

ollibear · 05-04-2014, 01:42 PM

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i wish we had a more firm timeline too. emmett's timeline to bay made things even more messed up haha.

i especially want to know when emmett's bday is.

Emmett's birthday is something I especially want to know, too. It's probably the #1 mystery I would like to have solved.

Emmett's timeline made things clearer for me, though. At least there are a few dates that we can somewhat "hang our hat" on.

It was June 2011, when Emmett and Bay first meet in the pilot episode. Emmett pulls up on his motorcycle, as the Vasquez family is moving into the Kennish guest house, and Daphne tells Emmett that Bay is "Me, in another life."

At that point, the two girls are still 15, because they have not yet celebrated their 16th birthday, still 4 months away.

Emmett is obviously 16 already, by the point that June "first meet" date rolls around, because Regina tells Kathryn in the next episode that you "just have to be 16" to drive a motorcycle. Later in that same episode, Regina also tells Kathryn that when Emmett first started driving his motorcycle, she was nervous about Daphne riding it, too.

Regina: I wanted to tell you something. I resisted letting her get on that thing for months too, but she begged me. And, well, finally, they're just such good kids. And I still secretly followed them for a week. He's a really good driver, I swear. The funny thing is for years I wished that there was someone around to bounce this stuff off of. And now there is.

To me, Regina's speech to Kathryn means that Emmett must have been riding his motorcycle for a few months before he pulled up to the Kennish driveway in June to whisk Daphne away. So a March 13th birthday makes sense for Emmett, as it is the date when the Dawn of the Deaf birthday party episode aired.

Also, some of my Facebook friends posted pictures of their teenagers going to prom this year, and in central Virginia, prom is still held the first weekend or two in April. That's when it was back when I was a teen, too. So maybe it is the same (early April) in KC, too?

A March 13th birthday would make Emmett a Pisces. That's how I see him.

Here's a description from my favorite expert on astrology, Linda Goodman. She wrote her book Sun Signs in the 1960s, and her writing is about as far from politically correct as it can be. But I grew up with her book by my bedside table, and her description of the Aries woman fits me so completely, that I always believed her other descriptions must be accurate, too.

Here's how Linda Goodman described the Pisces Man:

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The PISCES Man: We are but older children, dear, who fret to find our bedtime near.

William Shakespeare was a Taurus, but he left this message for anyone who is considering becoming involved with a Pisces man:

There is a tide in the affairs of men,
Which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;
Omitted, all the voyage of their life
Is bound in shallows and in miseries.

If you're about to fall over the dam for a Neptunian, you should paste those lines on your compact mirror, where you can see them every time you powder your nose. They may possibly make or break your future, not to mention your heart.

Try to untangle your probably rosy state of mind and make sure that Pisces fellow you're about to join in a moonlight swim knows when the tide is coming in. If he
takes it at the flood, you're as lucky as any girl can be. On to fame and fortune!

But if, perchance, your Pisces lad can't see the tide for the stardust in his eyes, and he misses that big flood-well, let me warn you that those Neptunian shallows can result in some of the most dismal miseries you'll ever know.

A Pisces man can be everything you want him to be- or everything you don't want him to be. A tide in his affairs is synonymous with opportunity. It requires a firm decision, determined action, and the ability to drown any old, soggy dreams that prevent success. The trouble is that some Pisces men never recognize that tide at its flood, even when it sloshes over their feet.

The Pisces man isn't weak. It's just that he may linger too long on a fading, silver star, and miss the bright sunlight of success. Not all Pisceans are gentle dreamers. But more of them than you can scatter with a pebble are. However, there is hope. There's always hope, where there's life. Although the world needs his lovely imagination only too desperately, there comes a time when the Pisces male has to go about the business of earning his potatoes. When he does that, he has a snap of it, because the Neptune intuition coupled with his clever mind can turn him toward sensible goals which could bring him fame and recognition-even wealth and immortality. If not all that (you can't hit the jackpot every time), then at least respectability and comfortable security. Let's hope that's the kind of Pisces male you're sailing with. Practically no other Sun sign can stop his potential under those circumstances.

However, if, say by the age of twenty-five or so, he hasn't recognized that tide in his affairs, frankly, his future isn't too hopeful. You think that's unfair? All right, make it by the age of thirty-five, but you're gambling. When I said his future isn't too hopeful, I meant with you. As a wife-with the family routine. His personal future can be more or less satisfactory. Lots of Pisces men who can't bury stale dreams and dig up fresh ideas for success live fairly contented lives. That's because all they need is that dream, rusty as it is around the edges. Add a jug of wine, a loaf of good rye bread, and he's as happy as most of us other misfits. Ah! You noticed I stopped short of one item. It's a loaf of bread, a jug of wine and Thou-right? I'm glad you're up on the Rubaiyat. But you see, I left "Thou" out on purpose. The dreamy, sensitive, artistic fish can exist nicely on bread and wine-even thrive on it. But such a diet won't feed a wife, one to five little bundles of joy, and who knows, maybe even some goldfish and guppies (considering his Sun sign). You need things like stockings and cosmetics and shoes and spinach and rent money and celery and milk and light bulbs and, well, you know what I mean.

There's only one way out with this kind of fish: Be an heiress. No, there is another way out: Get two jobs-one for you and one for him, and work at both of them yourself like the very dickens.

Now, I didn't say you wouldn't be happy in the romantic hours. That's one thing no kind of Pisces ever born will ever be short of-romance. They fairly breathe it. It's just that it's no substitute for spinach and baby shoes, or your sanity. The planets, in their wisdom, take care of such complications of life by giving oodles of chances for this dreamy, unworldly type of Pisces male to become a protege. If he finds a patron or patroness (much more likelihood of the latter, but it can be either), he can turn into a great painter, a great writer, a great composer, a great musician-or at least just a great guy. But how is he going to find a patron, let alone a patroness, if he has you and those bundles of joy and the goldfish and the guppies and all cluttering up the artistic simplicity of his existence?

You have to admit it just won't work. Better say farewell to him right now. You'll cry a little, and it may hurt-even deeply. But not as much as being married to a walking, talking dream, and having to face the landlord with nothing but empty wishes in your pocketbook. That really hurts.

Now that we've been brave and practical about the bread and wine type, we can talk about the other kind of Pisces, the one who grabbed the tide at its flood. Obviously, he's a real catch for any girl. There's always the chance he could turn out to be an Einstein or a George Washington, which would be simply wonderful. You couldn't ask for much more, though I suppose Einstein might have been a little engrossed in his equations on weekends and George may have brought a few problems home from the office at night. But you don't have to seek perfection. Even a super practical Capricorn or an aggressive, driving Aries man can have little flaws. The point is that a Piscean who fights his way upstream will have plenty of chances to lay the twin gifts of fame and fortune at your feet. And he's quite a guy in other ways, too.

A Pisces man has no prejudices. He'll never judge a man until he's walked a few miles in his shoes, or a nudist, until he's tried going barefoot. Even then he'll understand and not pass critical judgment. He's very short on cold accusations and very long on warm tolerance. He'll even make a stab at trying to understand his mother-in-law, and how many men do that? The Neptune male possesses a rare sympathy of spirit. His friends confide in him and never worry that he'll be shocked. It takes a real blockbuster to shock the fish. If you and I and your Pisces were all three sitting in a room, and a man walked in and told us he was a little worried because he was a bigamist, with four different wives in four different states- you might glare at him and think he deserved to go to jail; I might sneer at him and call him a skunk; but your Pisces man would probably ask, "What four states? Were you in love with any of them?" The fish is curious, but totally shockproof. As far as he's concerned, the fellow needs heaps of sympathy and a darned good lawyer.

He might tell a secret or two accidentally, never on purpose. Pisces sometimes speaks before he realizes the possible damage. It's a little tough for him to comprehend that what he says could perhaps be interpreted in the wrong light by more severe souls with less relenting attitudes. (It would take some thought, for example, for him to grasp that people like his sister or your mother wouldn't understand the domestic difficulties of that poor bigamist.) However, once the fish
has been specifically requested to keep it under his fin, he'll be close-mouthed and reliable, and you can trust him with your darkest secrets.

An occasional Pisces who's the victim of an afflicted Mercury talks very fast, fluently and frequently. But the typical Neptunian speaks slowly, thinks gently, and tries to mind his own business, even though he's continually subjected to the problems of friends, relatives and neighbors. They flock to him because Neptune listens so beautifully. You'll find yourself tempted to confide your own little worries with the broken hair dryer, your father's sinus trouble and your overdrawn bank balance, but try to go easy. If there's anything a Pisces husband or boyfriend doesn't need, it's more tribulations dropped in his lap. Others have been dropping them all day. Bundles of them. He needs some relief when he's with you. People don't mean to impose on Pisces. They seldom realize that the Neptune nature is so receptive it just soaks up all the vibrations around, good or bad, joyful or fearful, dark or light. The life of an absorbent, spiritual sponge can be kind of wearing on the psyche, as any mystic can tell you. (Many of them are Piscean.) The very fact that he's sensitive means that he vividly feels the emotions of those who seek his ear and get his heart. Pisces people often have to rest for long periods. The Neptune soul must be alone at times so fresh breezes can blow through to heal the wounds of all those vicarious troubles and bring back calm, undefiled individuality. So never begrudge your Pisces man his moments of silence. He sorely needs them. If he feels like being alone or taking a walk by himself, let him go. Too much togetherness can spoil the beauty of Pisces love. It needs space to grow untangled.

Remember that the fish is sensitive and can be easily hurt. His shyness is due to a painful consciousness of his own limitations, whatever they may be, and he feels them keenly. He needs to know that his virtues are counted by someone he admires. You. Never hold back encouragement from him.

He may try Yoga and Zen, or experiment with occult beliefs, and he'll probably be interested in astrology and numerology, even reincarnation. Like the Scorpio, he was born with an understanding of esoteric principles, and these things are usually good for him. They help keep his emotions stable, and they provide an anchor for his vivid imagination. Pisces men get upset now and then, but their anger is seldom violent or long lasting. When it's over, the waters grow placid again, and life is just as peaceful as before. Some Neptune males do a little yelling around the house, but it's harmless. It's almost impossible for the fish to really bellow, like Taurus the bull, for example. See how lucky you are?

Although he's difficult to fathom himself, Pisces has no problem in seeing all the subtleties of others clearly. It's difficult to fool him; he'll look right through to the other side. Yet, he can fool you when he takes a notion to do so, through some quirk he has which makes him want to keep his personal affairs safely hidden from close scrutiny.

One Piscean I know carries this trait so far he has actually been able to fool the government, and that's no easy trick. All his life he has managed to avoid the census taker. The Internal Revenue knows less about him than they know about a native in Pago Pago. He gets away with it because he's a writer. His phone is listed under a fictitious name, and he's never applied for a social security card or a driver's license. He has a horror of some imaginary Big Brother turning him into a number and knowing all his private secrets.

Your fish may not be quite so neurotic about it, but there will probably be times when he'll tell you he was at the cleaner's when he was really buying a cigar. Why? I really don't know. Nor does he. It's a sort of mild deception the Piscean (also the Geminian) seems to enjoy. As long as he's wearing green suspenders and people think he's wearing orange suspenders-or no suspenders-he feels secure, somehow. Since it makes him happy, let him have his little mysteries. Why make a big deal of it? Even if you know he wasn't at the cleaner because you saw him in the cigar store yourself, ask him if his slacks were ready. When he tells you the man said they won't be ready until Monday, remark that the cleaner is as slow as molasses and let it go at that. He could have far worse habits than practicing a little harmless make-believe just to keep his vivid imagination oiled up and in top working condition.

There won't be many tremendous surges of jealousy. Or if there are, he's such an excellent natural actor (if you let him practice) that he'll probably pretend them away. But he's a man, for all his poetic, tender nature, so he'll expect your technical loyalty when everything is said and done. You may have to control your own jealousy, however, because he'll have warm friends of both sexes, and he'll be sympathetic to them, sometimes at odd hours. It's his nature to be gregarious. He can't help it. There's danger here if you're the violently possessive type. An Aries or Leo girl had better chase another moonbeam. He does admire beauty, and he may stare at pretty legs from time to time. But you can keep that in bounds and innocent with a little extra effort, and your reward will be a gentle husband who's both a romantic lover and a companion who can talk about everything under the sun.

When those spells of loneliness and depression cause the gloom to gather, toss your apron in the comer behind the aquarium, throw on a yellow dress and a golden smile, buy some green tickets to a happy show, and trick him right out of it. Pisceans are particularly vulnerable to suggestion. You may hit a few snags trying to get him to be economical and cautious about money. Neptune people, frankly, aren't noted for their triple A credit ratings. He'll learn, but don't compound the situation by being extravagant yourself, if you can help it. One loose spender per family goes a long way-toward the poor house. He needs a good example. It's surprising how that works with the Pisces character in a sort of follow-the-leader manner. That is, if the leader is close to him and someone he respects. The Piscean nature is vividly receptive to the vibrations around him, especially if they're intensified by emotion.

The children will find him one whale of a lot of fun. Chances are he'll take them boating and swimming and snorkel diving. He'll play the part of the Wicked Crocodile and Little Boy Blue until they think they've found a human nursery rhyme, in living color. He may sprinkle them with a little way-out philosophy, sing them some mildly salty ballads, or teach them to stand on their heads, yoga style. They'll probably adore him, and they just may turn out to be well-balanced, well-adjusted adults, thanks to his rare ability to hold a tiny bird in his hand without crushing it or frightening it. You do the disciplining and he'll do the listening to their young problems-you keep their noses and their clothes clean and he'll keep their minds active. It should work out fine.

Never tread on this man's dreams-he won't forgive that, or forget it. Give him a chance to turn them into realities by helping him find a good, firm star to hitch his wagon to -one that will sparkle instead of fizzing out in an eclipse of common sense. In love, Pisces is a leaner emotionally, which means he needs boundless reassurance and faith, but it also means you mustn't lean on him with imaginary complaints. His enthusiastic hopes need to be watered with understanding affection, and make sure you supply the rich soil of a happy home life. Keep the deadly insects of nagging and criticism away from the roots, and someday those wild and crazy hopes of his will change from useless weeds into tall money trees in the backyard, high enough to reach a few of your own private dreams. Hope springs eternal in the Piscean heart. Don't knock it. It may shower you with some gigantic and surprising luck if you nurture it tenderly.

You may have heard or read that Pisces is the sign of "self-undoing," and that could make you all nervous and negative, but don't let it frighten you. True, there's always a bit of self-undoing in all Neptune men, but just "do him back up again," like you would a package that comes untied. If you make the knots tight enough, it won't happen often. Serve him a dream for breakfast, a clever joke for lunch, and Chopin for dinner, with Browning for a chaser. After that, you're on your own. Don't be afraid to jump in. The water's fine.

Slayerfan714 · 05-04-2014, 02:28 PM

I think the problem for me is based on what I'm used to. Emmett's timeline says they met in June, but there was six weeks between the blood test and after, and yet they are still in school. So, was there no summer break? Unless KC has a short summer break. I just know I am used to longer than six weeks.

And proms here are later. I guess there could have been a big time jump between 1x21 and 1x22.

Ugh. It bugs. Even if their prom was April, that's too early to let out for summer vacation, isn't it? I'm not buying that with how small Buckner was Simone and Bay never crossed paths (considering they seemed to cross paths a few times in 1B and 1C even when Bay was trying to avoid Simone) if there were weeks left of school and since Bay didn't tell John and Kathryn about what happened, it wasn't like she stayed home the rest of the school year. But 1x23 makes it seem like it was the first time they had seen each other since Bay found out what happened.

Maybe I'll just rewrite it in my head that there were at least a few weeks between 1x21 and 1x22. I'm going to do that.

There, nobody tell me I'm wrong. That's my new headcanon. This way Emmett's birthday can be in March and I'm satisfied with them having a prom later in the year that coincides with the ending of school.

AnneH · 05-04-2014, 03:32 PM

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I think the problem for me is based on what I'm used to. Emmett's timeline says they met in June, but there was six weeks between the blood test and after, and yet they are still in school. So, was there no summer break?

exactly. it's messed up.

my high school proms were always late april/early may and i'd rather go with a few weeks of school left after 1x22. that way emmett isn't lying to her as long.

Slayerfan714 · 05-04-2014, 03:55 PM

I'll never be satisfied.

We can also mourn Luke, the almost brother, in here.

Luke, we barely knew you!!

ollibear · 05-04-2014, 04:10 PM

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I think the problem for me is based on what I'm used to. Emmett's timeline says they met in June, but there was six weeks between the blood test and after, and yet they are still in school. So, was there no summer break? Unless KC has a short summer break. I just know I am used to longer than six weeks.

To me, the switch was discovered during the spring of their freshman year of high school. Freshman year is when teens take biology here in Virginia, too.

So within that first pilot episode, the first few scenes are occurring in March or April 2011, and then, by the end of that pilot episode, the Vasquez family is moving into the Kennish guest house and it is June 2011. The teens are probably about to get out of school for summer vacation. (The time jump within the episode makes total sense, because the words "six weeks later" appear on the screen.)

Then, it is probably still June in episode 2, because the teens are still in school and it appears to be soon after the Vasquez family has moved into the guest house (possibly the day after, given the dialogue).

But somewhere along the way, ten weeks of summer vacation must pass without us seeing them pass, because Emmett kisses Bay in episode 7, and it is September. I'm going to go with LW's mushy timeline and just imagine the 10-week jump occurred somewhere in between two episodes.

Bay joined an educational program in the Galapagos.

We have an educational student exchange program at our schools, and some of our students spend the last nine weeks of the school year in Europe and stay for the summer.

Perhaps that is what Bay did? Could she have started the program sooner than we realized?

I like that, because then she never had to run into Simone.

If the prom really was right after Emmett's birthday, maybe Bay spent the last nine weeks of the school year in the Galapagos, and then, she stayed for the summer.

Slayerfan714 · 05-04-2014, 04:13 PM

I don't know.

I'm getting cranky thinking about it.

Ignore me, please. I don't know why it's not fitting in my mind and I'm getting annoyed with it. So I'm not going to think about it anymore. I mean, others can, but it's just not working out for me.

Anyway....

ollibear · 05-04-2014, 04:33 PM

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I don't know.

I'm getting cranky thinking about it.

Ignore me, please. I don't know why it's not fitting in my mind and I'm getting annoyed with it. So I'm not going to think about it anymore. I mean, others can, but it's just not working out for me.

Anyway....

I understand!

Since I seem to be the Queen of the Quotes in my posts today, I will add what might be my favorite quote of all-time here. It is definitely in my Top 5, for the truth it speaks to my heart:

"When I was alive, I believed — as you do — that time was at least as real and solid as myself, and probably more so. I said 'one o'clock' as though I could see it, and 'Monday' as though I could find it on the map; and I let myself be hurried along from minute to minute, day to day, year to year, as though I were actually moving from one place to another. Like everyone else, I lived in a house bricked up with seconds and minutes, weekends and New Year's Days, and I never went outside until I died, because there was no other door. Now I know that I could have walked through the walls. (...) You can strike your own time, and start the count anywhere. When you understand that — then any time at all will be the right time for you.”
― Peter S. Beagle, The Last Unicorn

AnneH · 05-04-2014, 04:38 PM

it doesn't work for me and never has. the show doesn't play out like there is a significant jump between any two episodes of 1a.

mushy timeline indeed. almost as bad as the timeline in rosewood.

AnneH · 05-04-2014, 04:38 PM

it doesn't work for me and never has. the show doesn't play out like there is a significant jump between any two episodes of 1a.

mushy timeline indeed. almost as bad as the timeline in rosewood.

EyesOnFire · 05-05-2014, 12:34 PM

The crazy timeline has always driven me nuts. It was hard to pinpoint when things happened when I was writing my fanfic. Eventually I said screw it and just wrote based off of my own timeline.

I always wonder why they went with Noah over Teo. I'm curious if things would have progressed in the same manner with Teo like they did with Noah.

Sarah Lazar will be the one loose thread that I'll always want resolved. There's something unfinished there imo.

ollibear · 05-05-2014, 03:21 PM

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I always wonder why they went with Noah over Teo. I'm curious if things would have progressed in the same manner with Teo like they did with Noah.

I like Teo better than Noah, and I am curious what others think!

Both actors have their charm, but I actually find the actor who played Teo to be cuter than the actor who played Noah.

And even more important than that, Vanessa Marano has better chemistry with Stephen Lunsford (Teo) than she does with Max Lloyd Jones (Noah), at least she does in my opinion.

That one scene between Bay and Teo, where they are walking outside to the volleyball court, and Bay is signing is super cute.

Teo: "Can we just talk?"
Bay: "But signing IS talking."
Teo: "You know what I mean."
Bay: "Okay, fine."
Teo: "It is so weird being the outsider. I mean, especially for me, being a white boy. I mean, I have absolutely no outsider status."
Bay: "Well, it's good for you."
Teo: "Oh, absolutely."
Bay: "But have you noticed how we're sort of persona non grata? Or personae non grata? Or whatever. It means they don't really dig us being here."
Teo: "I guess they just don't want us around. But whatever, you know? We'll just stay out of their way. Passive resistance."
Bay: "Mm, that's very zen of you."

Then, later, during the volleyball game:

Bay: "Passive resistance, huh?"
Teo: "Might wanna try the active kind."

They were cute together! I wish Bay had a guy friend like that.


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