Against_all_odds

Part of me wants this, too. I can't bear the idea of him brainwashing and keeping Wendy prisoner. It makes me nauseous and if this wasn't Once Upon A Time, I'd throw up.

The rest of me knows that he's a psycho and needs to get his heart ripped out by Regina.

KeepThisaSecret

OMG! what a twist. I didn't expect Pan's origin.

Against_all_odds

Neither did I, but I want to throw him. It literally made my skin crawl. He put his own son in a box, treated his grandson like crap and killed his great-grandson. He wasn't a deadbeat dad, he was a psychotic, abusive

Primal Slayer

Making this into one huge family affair/trip, no me gusta. I figured Pan would end up related to Rumple somehow but I was hoping and praying that wouldn't be the fact and that he wouldn't turn out to be just a regular villain. Only good thing that came out of it is that we had a villain that didn't turn bad because of some lame sob story, he was just truly evil.

I really wanted him to be doing what he was doing in order to save magic/Neverland.

DigificWriter

I said this in the Episode thread, but what Adam and Eddy did with Pan's character took some major moxy and is the kind of brilliant balls-to-the-wall storytelling I'd expect from shows like Battlestar Galactica and Joss Whedon's works.

Primal Slayer

I don't think turning him into Rumples father is on the same WOWZA level of BSG. Everyone on this show has to be connected to be Rumple or Regina somehow, so it isn't THAT surprising imo what they did.

DigificWriter

For me, what puts tonight's creative bombshells on par with the kind of stuff BSG did (especially in Season 4) and that Joss did on a regular basis is the way they were executed.

Peter Pan being Rumple's father is the brilliantly ballsy creative bombshell that it is because the writers didn't telegraph it in any way.

mcclemes

Robbie Kay is so hot

Against_all_odds

This has always irked me, but for once, I don't hate Rumple. Good god-His father is an abusive lunatic.

I haven't gotten around to watching BSG, but it's a million times better than OUAT. You can't compare the two-It's like comparing Reign to "The White Queen" or The Vampire Diaries to Interview with the Vampire.

IKR? It's what kept me going until now. Peter is a sick freak and reminds me of Ted Bundy.

DigificWriter

I'm a HUGE BSG fan and aren't making comparisons between it and OUaT lightly.

The fact that I genuinely consider tonight's creative bombshells to be on par with the 'Cylon Earth' thing from "Revelations" says something about how brilliant I think what Adam and Eddy have done is.

Primal Slayer

If they hadn't already done a hundred other "mind blowing" reveals, I may feel the same way but....yeah I don't.

Bookworm25

Got to love how Colin/Pan gave Rumple up for pure selfishness........

I think he chalks up there with Cora actually.....

DigificWriter

The writers of Once have given us some pretty bold twists on the classic stories and fairytales, but nothing on this scale.

mcclemes

Robbie was great tonight

Bookworm25

As this arc is winding down, I am glad that Pan is a pure villian at least

He wants immortality. The end. That's ruthless, and it seems for now, he won at least.

He doesn't care about Neverland, the lost boys, only himself

While I don't like a lot of this arc, you gotta give the kid credit... his manipulations did work out