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scififan2009 01-22-2013 05:12 AM

I'm still convinced Hook has a death wish. I mean, even after he was hit by the car he still baited Gold trying to get him to kill him, even with Emma there.

Does he honestly just want someone to put him out of his misery so he can be with Milah? Cause I can see that becoming an issue with CS.

IceKat055 01-22-2013 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by scififan2009 (Post 67316360)
I'm still convinced Hook has a death wish. I mean, even after he was hit by the car he still baited Gold trying to get him to kill him, even with Emma there.

Does he honestly just want someone to put him out of his misery so he can be with Milah? Cause I can see that becoming an issue with CS.

Right now, yes. That's probably the biggest hurdle for Emma at this point, even including her own seeming indifference. (Because let's face it - right now, she's not about to admit to anyone, especially herself, that she felt any spark at all with Hook up on that beanstalk.)

Emma betrayed and left him there, so any hope he may have had about gaining her trust and building on their new connection was crushed. We know exactly how he felt about that too, when he compared it to the dead, dried up formerly-magical bean. He'd lost hope that any chance of them working together and expanding on their "full of hope/possibility." So he's back on his one-track mission: avenge Milah. Beyond that, he doesn't see any reason why he should stick around and live any longer.

Emma will need to become that reason.

ElizaSparrow 01-22-2013 06:19 AM

Scififan: I actually agree with Kat :nod: Hook still has a death wish right now, but I think that learning to know Emma more and seeing that she's actually there for him despite what happened on the beanstalk might make him realize that he isn't that alone anymore!

And when Neal will come back in and when Cora will start being a threat to Emma again, he'll finally realize that he's got a reason to live after all: Protect her! That's IMO of course ;)

Radames 01-22-2013 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by scififan2009 (Post 67316360)
I'm still convinced Hook has a death wish. I mean, even after he was hit by the car he still baited Gold trying to get him to kill him, even with Emma there.

Does he honestly just want someone to put him out of his misery so he can be with Milah? Cause I can see that becoming an issue with CS.

I think as the season progresses and his feelings for Emma deepen he will realize that there is something worth living for again and that Milah would want him to live for her.

Of course right NOW he still has a death wish but that's because his feelings for Emma are still coming to the surface.

It's a slow journey, and one that we have just embarked on. By the end of the season I fully expect Hook to at least admit to himself that he's fallen in love with Emma.

Lennie1984 01-22-2013 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ElizaSparrow (Post 67316302)

Yeah!! I'll be seriously disappointed if that's the route TPTB take for Hook :no: He wouldn't even have a real reason to go after Belle right now, he's already got his revenge and Emma already told him he shouldn't have hurt Belle so I really hope he'll listen to Emma and won't go after her :no:

I was seriously scared and disappointed somehow when he threatened the whole Charming family including Henry AND in front of little Henry :( I always thought he respected them greatly but seriously, what happened there? Just because Belle didn't remember him wasn't a good reason enough to threaten them, even more knowing they would keep Belle safe anyway! It did remind me his reaction when Milah told him she never loved him to tell the truth :nod:

Great tweet from Jane!! CS relationship is "complicated" indeed! It does describe it indeed! And Hook has done some bad things indeed but I'm still not convinced by the "Lots of horrible things" they're all talking of... I also hope they don't go that way and turn him into another Regina or Dark One type of character...

TV couples relationships are always complicated and even more so here now with CS.... because of who they are and what they are...... (I think thats what we expected CS will be about and fighting that, i hope that is the case, and they are the IT couple)

I also dont see what exactly Hook has done horrible, he might done bad things like theiving and killing someone maybe in a fair fight, (swordfight) etc to me he is this vagabond, this bad boy (you know all the characters we call a bad boy in modern tv shows lol)... I dont want to see Hook like a character like Regina, Dark One and Cora... i think from what we have seen, he isnt... he still has this humanity still in him and human emotions, as i said before i think this type of character is what was missing from SB and this show... a character like him, dark coz of his angst, flirty, fun, funny, charming, bad boy etc....

I agree with the Spark that was mentioned they have together, thats the word that sums up and make it different from him interacting with other females, there isnt that spark with anyone else except Emma....

Radames 01-22-2013 06:47 AM

Honestly it's already starting for Hook and Emma's feelings as Gold is a very perceptive individual and he knows true love when he sees it. He can see it before either of the two participants even realize it. It's a skill he has used, manipulated, and abused for 300 years to get what he wants from people.

I think THE moment for Killian is coming soon.

Once he finds out that Emma went with Gold to protect him, that's gonna be HUGE development.

This last episode was a giant one for CS because it seriously has started their journey particularly that last scene with Gold.

Lennie1984 01-22-2013 07:09 AM

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You look good, I must say …
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Radames 01-22-2013 07:12 AM

Props for Emma for coming up with her own sexual innuendos, and Hook caught on to that. :sigh

Also I would like to add something else. Yes I doubt Killian is all clear for not wanting to die, though I do think he's no longer suicidal after this episode. I don't think he has a death wish anymore. Watching the episode again I noticed as soon as Emma was near him he fought against Gold. Gold kicked his face but when he started choking him Killian was trying to get him off. So maybe Emma's presence made him fight.

Lennie1984 01-22-2013 07:28 AM

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cause it’s only fair
it’s love and war
and darkness is all you’ll ever know
if I don’t love you more

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Radames 01-22-2013 07:31 AM

Tumblr is loaded with new graphics and they're all amazing. :D

Lennie1984 01-22-2013 07:43 AM


Hook&Emma || "Hey Beautiful" [2x12] - YouTube

ElizaSparrow 01-22-2013 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lennie1984 (Post 67317186)
TV couples relationships are always complicated and even more so here now with CS.... because of who they are and what they are...... (I think thats what we expected CS will be about and fighting that, i hope that is the case, and they are the IT couple)

I also dont see what exactly Hook has done horrible, he might done bad things like theiving and killing someone maybe in a fair fight, (swordfight) etc to me he is this vagabond, this bad boy (you know all the characters we call a bad boy in modern tv shows lol)... I dont want to see Hook like a character like Regina, Dark One and Cora... i think from what we have seen, he isnt... he still has this humanity still in him and human emotions, as i said before i think this type of character is what was missing from SB and this show... a character like him, dark coz of his angst, flirty, fun, funny, charming, bad boy etc....

I agree with the Spark that was mentioned they have together, thats the word that sums up and make it different from him interacting with other females, there isnt that spark with anyone else except Emma....

Yeah, that's what I think so too! I wish the Writers stopped saying he has "done horrible things" and things like that until proven so, because right now it seems like all the other "villains" of the show have done far worst than him :lol:

Yeah, Emma also is the only woman who seems to know how to answer him :sigh:


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Originally Posted by Radames (Post 67317513)
Props for Emma for coming up with her own sexual innuendos, and Hook caught on to that. :sigh

Also I would like to add something else. Yes I doubt Killian is all clear for not wanting to die, though I do think he's no longer suicidal after this episode. I don't think he has a death wish anymore. Watching the episode again I noticed as soon as Emma was near him he fought against Gold. Gold kicked his face but when he started choking him Killian was trying to get him off. So maybe Emma's presence made him fight.

WOW!! Good catch!! I'll have to rewatch the scene to see that :thud:

Emma seems flattered when Hook tells her she looks good! :love:

Lennie1984 01-22-2013 07:54 AM

Yes he has done bad things in the sense.... obviously coz he is from the fairytale land, a pirate and he is known as a villian, so everyone sees that in him and Emma as well (but also sees more to him, as we saw her working with him and so on), thats how one interprets him, when they meet him, but we have seen much more to him coz we have seen who Killian is and who Hook is, coz of his angst and anger..... thats the difference Hook has in him and is being hightlighted IMO

IceKat055 01-22-2013 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Lennie1984 (Post 67317186)
I also dont see what exactly Hook has done horrible, he might done bad things like theiving and killing someone maybe in a fair fight, (swordfight) etc to me he is this vagabond, this bad boy (you know all the characters we call a bad boy in modern tv shows lol)... I dont want to see Hook like a character like Regina, Dark One and Cora... i think from what we have seen, he isnt... he still has this humanity still in him and human emotions, as i said before i think this type of character is what was missing from SB and this show... a character like him, dark coz of his angst, flirty, fun, funny, charming, bad boy etc....

:nod:

And I am continually puzzled by people who like to harp on the "horrible" things Hook has done and spew nothing but hate for him - - because they're generally the same people that give Rumplestiltsken a free pass.

Hook was minding his own business when Milah came to him; he didn't force her in any way to abandon her family and run away with him. He is not to blame for the unhappy marriage issues b/t Rumple and Milah, and he is certainly not to blame for the way she handled leaving her son. That's completely on Milah.

Rumple, OTOH, turned a man into a snail and crushed him under his boot, because Bae had a scraped knee. He cold-bloodedly murdered a mute maid, because she may have overheard information about the dagger. He cold-bloodedly murdered the mother of his own son, because she hurt his feelings. He let go of Bae and allowed him to go into the portal completely alone, because he craved his precious power more than his own son.

And incidentally, isn't that the exact same thing Milah did? Let her son go?

At least Milah chose to leave Bae because of love, rather than a selfish desire for brutal misuse of dark magic. We may not have seen the details of why Hook fell in love with her, but he fell and fell hard - - that, IMO, was his only claim to a "horrible thing" before Rumple took his hand and set him on his path to avenge the woman he loved.

Hook's only sin was falling in love, while Rumple's was to willingly choose to misuse his great power, murdering and terrorizing innocent people. And for goodness sake, Milah wasn't even Rumple's "true love." I don't get it. :shrug:

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Originally Posted by Lennie1984 (Post 67317186)
I agree with the Spark that was mentioned they have together, thats the word that sums up and make it different from him interacting with other females, there isnt that spark with anyone else except Emma....

No other woman since Milah has peaked Hook's interest the way Emma has, and no other woman has offered him a challenge. We've seen how his charm works on females, and Emma is the first one who didn't fall for it. She's a good mix of an "open book" and a "challenge" for him, and all it'll take is a little nudge for him to start sniffing at possibilities with her again. :sigh:

Lennie1984 01-22-2013 08:24 AM

I agree with you Ice, thats what i dont like, you hate on Hook but give Rumpel some kind of Belle like free pass :lol: - thats silly
See i like Regina, but i always see the things she has done, and why ppl react to her and are vary of her, anyone would be, she was a evil queen, yeah we saw why but some of the things she has done, needs to be held up and remembered at times, and the fact there is a curse is coz of her mostly and Rumpel....

Rumpel just uses his power most times for abuse, coz he can, was there any need for turning Smee into a rat, just being spiteful

Rumpel is wrong in alot of things, esp killing Milah the way he did, and taking Hook's hand, but Hook only ever firstly blames Rumpel for killing Milah (and rightly so)

The Hook we know, yes he can and will do bad thing, coz thats his life, but he doesnt do bad things just for the sake of it, only when he has to.....


Sparks fly when Hook and Emma are together and around each other, she's the first woman, he's been very much flirty with, coz he enjoys it and to tease her and say suggestive comments

Does anyone think that Emma-Hook could have a one night stand (coz of the mention inneudos) but Emma next morning say its a one-off and cant happen again, and also says it didnt happen - you know the typical things someone says after a one night stand, they dont want anything to do with in a way, or anyone to find out..... have that scenerio where they dont realise they are hiding their true feelings and so on etc


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