aprilkitty

I think Regina just sitting in jail would be pretty boring, too. Plus, I'm not sure there's enough room in the Storybrooke jail for all the people who probably belong there.

That could definitely be a good way for her to show that she is really trying to change.

I'm curious who doesn't have a heart, too, both from Regina and Cora taking them.

bbroccs

Agreed. What would be the point. I think the better storyline would be her trying to make amends for what she has done rather than having her sitting in jail week after week. As I said they may as well just kill her off if they are going to do that.

I always kinda wonder if Regina took Sydney's heart!!! I guess with Giancarlo on another show now this will probably never be addressed but I kinda think he would be one of the people who's heart she took. Just the way he acted always made me think.

Neverlight

I want to know more about the hearts too. It will be a story I think. Because now more people know there are hearts in the crypt.

GrhmLz

Agreed. Sometimes it's difficult to explain it in order to make it understandable but it's not about justifying bad actions, it's more about looking beyond what can't be undone at this point and hoping that Regina can change for the better and rise above her very tragic set of circumstances. Sadly, the cycle is what it is ... 'hurt people hurt other people', especially if they are left to their own miserable existence. It's unfortunate, but unless your some cute helpless kid (as most of society looks upon it), people tend not to give a damn, or they look the other way, when people are befallen with tragedy that leads their lives into certain directions. Alot of misconceptions exist out there where because you're not a kid, that this means somehow you should have the ultimate control over everything, you should always know better, or be able to make choices, if not, you're just making excuses - and let me just say from my firsthand experiences in life: That is major bull!!! I think that is why the end of S1, and S2, makes me sympathize with Regina so much because I don't think it should be that shocking that she evolved into what she became. Her background does mean something and, yes, circumstances out of her control, did mold her. I don't believe she had complete freedom of choice to take her life where she wanted. And, yes, I do think this kind of information should be taken into consideration.

In the end, I guess I'm just of the belief that when a person truly wants the redemption, and is actively seeking it, justice is better served when that person can actually change for the better, and it's shown. Revenge only breeds more hatred, it's not productive, and it certainly doesn't change anything.

I think jail would only serve a true purpose if Regina is still out there as an active and viable threat towards everyone. I think she is moving beyond this, though. And for the purposes of a TV show, definitely boring.

If anything, giving the hearts back, it would show that she is remorseful and has reached a place where she would like to reverse as much of the damage done as possible, as much of what could still be in her control.

Good question about the hearts, and which hearts 'belong' to who. It appears like maybe Regina could have taken over her mother's vault and then added to it over the years, after Cora was gone.

True. She's certainly paying in the sense that she is being shunned as the pariah of SB, that's for sure, and I think that kind of infliction of punishment is much more harsh than sitting in some jail cell could ever be.

And you're right - that is what's so tragic because her whole history is tainted with pain and loss. I know this wouldn't be a popular opinion to those who have suffered their own loss at her hands but what's sad is that in her mindset, she probably really thought everything she was doing was justifiable. People in pain, or those burying their pain, often misplace their anger and act out towards any situation that resembles or reminds them of their past:

Snow - broke her secret and it cost her Daniel. Her response was to inflict revenge against her for being forced into a loveless marriage.

Huntsman|Graham - in her eyes, he betrayed her and their deal (perhaps a reminder of Snow White's betrayal and how trust is broken). Later, she felt threatened by his growing relationship with Emma, viewing it as if Emma was taking something away from her (much like Cora did with Daniel).

Hansel|Gretel| + Woodsman Father: Granted, she separated them in order to achieve her agenda (to retrieve what the Blind Witch took from her) - but I often thought that her reason for not ultimately reuniting them at the end, was Gretel's outright rejection of her! Rejection would probably be a sore spot given all the criticizing Cora admonised onto her, never feeling like she had her mother's approval.

Belle - I believe there is likely a deeper motivation for why she kept Belle all those years, allowing Rumplestiltskin to believe her to be dead. I'm guessing it could be in repayment for what she feels she lost at his hands.

Just some examples.

The more I think about it, The Dark Curse was more about Regina rather than everyone else, to be honest. Let's face it, if she were completely heartless and without conscience, she could have just killed everybody that made her unhappy and have been done with it. No, it's a bit sad, but the Dark Curse's true purpose (we get this even from the S1- second episode) is that Regina wanted happiness of her own, what everybody else had but she never could quite achieve. Then with Archie, she let it slip, she took who she wanted. Which means, on some level, she probably craved having these people in her life, in an alternate existence, although the 'evil queen' in her went about it in a domineering and controlling fashion by taking away the happy endings of others.

bbroccs

Exactly. And this is why I tend to stick to my fandom bubble for example in the Regina threads here and on tumblr because there tends to be this mentality in the OUAT fandom that if you like Regina at all or understand where she is coming from that you justify all that she has done. And it frustrates me to no end. There is a big difference between understanding someone's actions and justifying them. You can sympathize with a character and still be appalled by some of the things that they have done at the same time. I guess some people just can't wrap their heads around that. Anyway I don't like to talk about other fans because everyone is entitled to like or dislike whoever they want but it does annoy sometimes when I see Regina blamed for everything, especially when some things were obviously out of her control. I do agree with your point about freedom of choice though. Definitely true in Regina's case.
Agreed. I do think she is moving beyond this as well. Or at least I hope she continues moving forward in this way. I have an inkling that we might see one of those slip-ups when Cora arrives tbh but hopefully she will be able to get back on-track with some help, from Archie perhaps.
It's really interesting that you should bring this up because there was a really great gifset a couple of months ago on tumblr pointing out this exact same thing.

I always wonder about Regina's reasons for locking Belle up. I do hope this will be touched upon in future episodes. I would also love to see these two come face to face. That would be an interesting moment.

sanchy

Tftnt

aprilkitty

I completely agree. The tragic circumstances in Regina's life really led her into becoming who she is, and if she wants to change, she should be allowed to do so.


That makes sense. If Cora is the Queen of Hearts, she has even more hearts in that vault in addition to the ones left behind when Regina banished her. I wonder how many hearts were taken between Cora and Regina. Since the vaults have been featured a few times, I'm guessing that we will find out more about the hearts and who they belong to.

bbroccs

I think this will be addressed this season tbh. With Cora showing up I think it will definitely be touched on. And the fact that we have seen Regina's vault twice already makes me think it will be significant later on.

Neverlight

Yes. I think the hearts will become a story in this season of Once Upon a Time.

meraki

^That would be great to know more about them

Persephone

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GrhmLz

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Persephone

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meraki

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Persephone

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