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Just in general.
I wasn't crazy about Cinderella. Although I actually like her better than the new Cinderalla. But I liked all the original characters better than the other ones we're seeing this season, such as Alice, etc. They are the real characters to me not the alternate EF versions. But in general people would get upset with Rumple when they made deals with him and he actually wanted repaid for the deal. It's not like he never warned them that all magic comes with a price. As far as Mr. Gold in SB, I didn't think he really wanted Ashley's baby. I thought it was just to get a way to get Emma to owe him the favor because he knew that he would need her to get to Bae. |
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Well he definitely manipulated a vulnerable Cinderella to get what he wanted, I agree. I just feel like in general people put all this blame on him when they actually get something they wanted out of the deal.
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Yeah, I've also known people like Zelena, or Hook, which is a major reason l don't like these characters. On the other hand I see a lot of myself in Rumple (not the DO!Rumple, obviously ), which is why he's my favorite and I keep rooting for him despite everything he's done/does. Because I understand why he acts the way he does, and I can relate to him. That doesn't mean I excuse everything he does. Some things, yes, but not everything. __________________
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I understand Rumple. Like you said, I don't excuse him for everything, but I get it. And I always root for the underdog.
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I did read the transcript earlier for Price of Gold and, yeah, Cinderella was guilty of wanting anything to get out of her situation more than she was trying to trade her baby.....BUT......she didn't even care to look at the contract, so that's strike one against her. To be honest, I never liked her - I still remember her complaining in Skin Deep that Thomas couldn't spend time with her because he was working. Different strokes for different folks, I think.... __________________
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As I said, she was just a kid and I'm not comfortable with blaming a kid for being manipulated by an adult. I also checked the transcript, and she did ask Rumple about the price, and he only said "something precious" and implied that he was just interested in the "riches" she was going to get. And that his "needs were small". Nothing about the baby. He was purposely manipulating her because he needed that deal.
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This is why I ended my last post with “different strokes for different folks”, because clearly we don’t see eye to eye on this.
I don’t know exactly how old Cinderella was, but for ME - and I'm not speaking for anyone else - she was “old enough”. She was probably about 20 years old - at least - and of marrying age. I don’t see her as a child or a teenager, but as a young woman. I have no problem if anyone disagrees with that, but this is how I see it. I’m re-reading the transcript now, and Rumple did not force the contract on Cinderella; in fact, he advised her to go back to her life - and change it. He told her all magic comes with a price and that she can't handle the wand, it's evil. He may have been manipulating her, but she had free will - she wanted magic to get her out of her circumstances instead of working for it. I’m dropping this now because we’re just going in circles - it’s not important enough for me to get into an argument about __________________
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Exactly - And great gifset Poor Spinner!Rumple though..
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In fact, if you read the whole script, it's made very clear that she was in her late teens when she had Alexandra. Quote:
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I just rewatched Desperate Souls. Our poor baby.
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CD, I love discussion...but I was afraid that it was going to a bad place, and I didn’t want that to happen.
Seamstress, fair enough - I’ll look at the transcript again when I get a chance. Cinderella still won’t ever be a favorite, but I want to be fair. Ouch, poor Rumple. Anyone who says that he’s always been power hungry hasn’t watched the show. He was a kind, gentle, loving man who showed great compassion and, in doing so, was tricked into taking on the most evil of curses. The man we’re seeing in S7 is the real Rumple... __________________
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