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Old 09-27-2013, 07:08 AM
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Agreed Kim, lots of rulers had traits Machiavelli admired but none were as successful or brilliant as Cesare hence Machiavelli writing the book about our Prince Only problem was Cesare's downfall at the death of Rodrigo, if only Julius hadn't been elected or Cesare hadn't been ill at the time Cesare almost had enough power not to depend on the papacy when Rodrigo died but fortune wasn't quite so kind and turned on him.
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Old 09-27-2013, 07:58 AM
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Agreed Kim, lots of rulers had traits Machiavelli admired but none were as successful or brilliant as Cesare hence Machiavelli writing the book about our Prince Only problem was Cesare's downfall at the death of Rodrigo, if only Julius hadn't been elected or Cesare hadn't been ill at the time Cesare almost had enough power not to depend on the papacy when Rodrigo died but fortune wasn't quite so kind and turned on him.
Madame Fortuna is a fickle mistress.....so sad
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Old 09-30-2013, 12:36 AM
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Madame Fortuna is a fickle mistress.....so sad
My thoughts exactly.
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Old 06-25-2014, 09:49 AM
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I miss this character. It seems I have forgotton what actually happened to him, but I'm guessing as he vanished he died?
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Old 06-25-2014, 04:01 PM
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He had a long life. He died after Rodrigo, Cesare and even Lucrezia.
He wrote (among other things) The Prince a politics book inspired from Cesare.
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Old 06-25-2014, 07:09 PM
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I miss this character. It seems I have forgotton what actually happened to him, but I'm guessing as he vanished he died?
You should read The Artist, The Philosopher, The Warrior by Strathern Jade it's about DaVinci, Machiavelli, and Cesare and the brief period in time when their lives intersected, and how this meeting impacted all of them.

Machiavelli lived the longest, and obviously Cesare died first even if his life had the biggest impact on the lives of the other two.

The Borgias series, of course, didn't say what happened to Machiavelli (weren't all the characters left in limbo? )
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Old 06-30-2014, 05:47 AM
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I'm guessing they were yes, but most of them had obvious outcomes but he just disappeared like Rodrigos mistress.
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It's a travesty MachiavelliJulian Bleach thread only has one Especially since Julian seems almost as snarky in real life as he was as Machiavelli
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Old 02-01-2015, 06:39 PM
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Thanks for the gifs, Christine! Yeah, it's a shame that this thread has so little activity.
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He should've had more screentime I think.
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Once I have taken Forli I will deal with Naples. My sister Lucrezia will act as his regent and will rule it in his name.

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One of my favorite scenes.
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One of my favorite scenes.
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Great description and befitting OP.

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I think the same.
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