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Old 10-14-2017, 01:12 PM
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Uh oh, Lizzie just admitted that she started the fire, not Richard. Henry's pissed.
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Old 10-14-2017, 01:13 PM
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Lizzie wants to save the Tudor line now.
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Old 10-14-2017, 01:13 PM
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Lizzie knows that Richard is her brother, and now she's telling Henry about her mother's curse.
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Old 10-14-2017, 01:14 PM
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I really don't like what Lizzie has become here. She looks ice cold. No York left in her.
Me neither. I think it is because she had to choose evil to protect her husband and sons

Maggie violent Arinna ? Why ?
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He is torn now.
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Old 10-14-2017, 01:14 PM
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And now Henry knows that this is the real Prince Richard, Lizzie's brother.

She's terrified that if Henry kills Richard that her mother's curse will fall on her sons. And the fact is that it did happen. Prince Arthur died of an illness at age 15 before he ever took the throne.
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Old 10-14-2017, 01:15 PM
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Lizzie loves his sons more than she loves her brother and his rights for the throne.
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Maggie violent ? Why ?
I meant Lizzie was cold, not Maggie. Maggie is becoming strong, not violent.
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But Lizzie can smell that something's wrong.
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Old 10-14-2017, 01:16 PM
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There's Princes Arthur and Henry... and only one of them will live. Elizabeth Woodville's curse.
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Henry is going to visit Richard.
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Old 10-14-2017, 01:17 PM
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And now Queen Isabella is getting impatient with Lizzie. She wants to know why Richard and Teddy are still alive.
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Old 10-14-2017, 01:17 PM
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She thought of something already.
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Scotland is preparing their armies to move against the Tudors. Patience, the Stuarts of Scotland will have their time eventually.
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I meant Lizzie was cold, not Maggie. Maggie is becoming strong, not violent.
No actually I was asking this to Arinna. She thinks Maggie is violent
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