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Old 09-23-2017, 01:19 PM
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Joanne | Vanozza #17: Because Joanne plays great royalty!

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Vanozza Cattanei

(* 13 July 1442 – † 24 November 1518) was a Roman courtesan, Rodrigo Borgia's long-term mistress and mother of his children Cesare, Juan, Lucrezia and Joffre. This is also shown on an inscription on her tombstone in Santa Maria Del Popolo. Since the name Cattanei is a common one in the area around Mantua, it was often suggested that Vanozza (short for Giovanna) was related to the House of Candia. However, this is not the case. While Rodrigo surely gave her the financial means to live like a noblewoman, she was indeed the daughter of an artisan who sold his goods on the Campo de' Fiori market. Vanozza was skilfull in dealing with money, so she soon owned several osterie, at first in the Borgo, then in Campo de' Fiori area. Before becoming Rodrigo's mistress, she had an alleged relationship with Cardinal Giuliano della Rovere, the future Pope Julius II. Her liasion with Rodrigo began in 1470, at the time Vanozza was married, and despite it was publicly known that her and Rodrigo lived in a quasi-marital state, she would marry three more times after that in order to keep her good reputation. Their scandalous affair was a violation of the celibacy vows that the then-Cardinal Borgia had taken upon admission to the clerical state, since the renunciation of marriage entails the obligation to abstain from all sexual activity. Before Rodrigo's elevation to the papacy, his passion for Vanozza somewhat diminished. Yet he acknowledged her officially as the mother of his children in the first year of his pontificate. Seven years later, Rodrigo granted Vanozza the privilege to bear his name and the Borgia coat of arms. While Vanozza never played a firmly established role in the social system of the Vatican, she was close to all of her children. On occasion, Cesare asked her to take on administrative tasks in the Papal States. When Rodrigo died in 1503, Cesare took a variety of precautionary measures to protect his mother. However, those proved to be unnecessary. Even the Borgia's biggest enemies would not dare to lay hands on the matron. In 1518 Vanozza, aged 76, died as a well-respected benefactress of several charitable institutions.

K.T. Wills (1969) wrote a novel based on Vanozza's life. Furthermore she is part of many books, movies and television series based on the Borgia's rise and fall. For instance most recently:

The Borgias (TV, 2011) played by Joanne Whalley
Borgia (TV, 2011) played by Assumpta Serna
The Conclave (Movie, 2006) played by Nora Tschirner
The Borgias (TV, 1981) played by Barbara Shelley



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Joanne Whalley

Joanne Whalley was born on August 25th, 1964 in Salford, Lancashire, England. She studied at the Braeside School of Speech and Drama and first appeared as a child on UK soap operas like "Coronation Street" or "Emmerdale". In the post-punk era, she flirted with the fringes of the Manchester New Wave scene and was briefly a member of a Stockport-based band called The Slowguns. Later, she was the lead singer of the pop group Cindy & The Saffrons; in 1982, at Abbey Road Studios they recorded the Shangri-Las song "Past, Present and Future" and the next year, "Terry" by Twinkle. The group split up soon thereafter. Whalley came to prominence on British television as Emma Craven in Troy Kennedy Martin's "Edge of Darkness" (1985), quickly followed by Nurse Mills in the Dennis Potter-written serial "The Singing Detective" (1986) both for BBC Television. While filming the fantasy adventure Willow in 1988, she met American actor Val Kilmer. The couple married the same year and moved to Los Angeles. She continued filming in Hollywood. In 1989, Whalley played the role of Christine Keeler in "Scandal" alongside stars John Hurt and Sir Ian McKellen. In 1994 she became the second actress to play "Gone with the Wind" heroine Scarlett O'Hara when she appeared in a made-for-TV adaptation of the sequel novel, "Scarlett". Whalley and Kilmer have two children but separated in 1995. After the divorce, Whalley returned to acting through making television films, including the 2000 movie "Jackie Bouvier Kennedy Onassis" in which she played the title character. She collaborated with the pop-punk band Blink-182 to read a letter at the beginning of the song "Stockholm Syndrome". In 2005, she appeared as Queen Mary I in "The Virgin Queen", a BBC serial about the life of Queen Elizabeth I. In 2008, she was in the ITV mini series "Flood" with Robert Carlyle. The same year, she appeared on stage in Billy Roche's "Poor Beast in the Rain" presented by the Salem K. Theatre Company at the Matrix Theatre, Los Angeles, California. In 2011, Whalley became a series regular on the Showtime television series "The Borgias", portraying Vanozza Cattanei. In 2011/12, she also guest-starred on "Gossip Girl" as Princess Sophie Grimaldi. In 2015, Joanne starred in the critically acclaimed miniseries "Wolf Hall" as Katherine of Aragon as well as in NBC's "A.D. The Bible Continues" as Claudia, wife of Pontius Pilate. In 2016, she got the lead role in ITV's fantasy drama "Beowulf" as Rheda, a female thane and ultimate leader of all clans. Most recently in 2017, Joanne played Margaret of York, Duchess of Burgundy, in the STARZ miniseries "The White Princess".



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Memorable Vanozza Quotes

«Marry one and have the other. Have them one at a time or two together, it's no matter. After a while you will tire of both and take a lover.» (to Lucrezia)
«Your word is never final, Rodrigo. You are not God!» (to Rodrigo)
«And have you not foresworn intimacy for lent?» (to Rodrigo)
«Affections can be lethal in this Rome of ours.»
«Can love be cured?» - Cesare; «No, it can be endured, embraced and suffered.» - Vanozza
«Well, then change. Change night into day.» (to Cesare)
«So Cesare, what exactly are you celebrating? Your sister's betrothal, or the death of your brother?» (to Cesare)
«Money is not happiness, mother.» - Cesare; «It is a fine substitute, my child.» - Vanozza
«As long as you are with me in spirit.» (to Rodrigo)
«Is this city still called Rome?»
«In a woman's life, a man is like a dress.» (to Lucrezia)
«A cardinal's stocking, Giulia.» - Vanozza; «You are indeed observant.» - Giulia
«I was a courtesan, my dear, never a streetwalker.»
«Each of us over the course of our lives must learn to control our passions, whether it be love, jealousy or power. Ironically, that is where we gain our strengths.»
«Rodrigo, wait! If they kill you I will light a candle in San Giacomo degli Spagnoli and pray for your soul. And if you flee to Spain I will write letters and sign them 'your devoted Vanozza'. And if you stay in Rome I will wait for you here in my bed.»

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tftnt, ALex.
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There are too many rightful kings around that era.
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You're welcome, Arinna!


Margaret of Burgundy has summoned Maggie to her. She's planning to break him out.
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Margared just recruited Maggie.
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Lizzie is really cold here.
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Margaret is right, they'll never let Teddy out. Queen Isabella has already told Henry and Lizzie that he needs to be gotten rid of.
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Yeah, but the fact is that Arthur did die, and after Henry VIII became king, his son, Edward, also died. And his daughter, Elizabeth I became the last Tudor ruler, and the Tudor line ended with her. Pretty efficient curse, no?

Damn, Lizzie is being really cold with Maggie here. She's turned her back on her York family entirely.
Elizabeth was the last Tudor because she didn't marry.
I don't believe curses kill people. I believe that "God" (or whatever you call him) decides when someone dies.
But as i said, sometimes people believe so strongly they are cursed that things happen to them. They don't realize they are attracting this to them.
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Oh, yes! Lizzie is jealous and furious.
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OMG, did Henry try to sleep with Cathy?

And Lizzie is pissed.
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Oh, she is mad!
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Lizzie is really cold here.
She behaves like a b... to Lady Gordon. She should have pity of her.
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Lizzie is being a real bitch.
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What a night...? Huh?
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She behaves like a b... to Lady Gordon. She should have pity of her.
Lizzie left all of her pity behind her when her mother died. She turned her back on York and became Tudor.
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