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That's why I called it a "vegetarian", in quotation marks. Becasue it's not real vegetarianism, it's vampire vegetarianism. Among the fans of The Twilight Saga there is such a term as a "vegetarian" vampire, which means a vampire who doesn't drink human blood. I think that David would be a great vampire. When I saw him in the last episode of first season of "Ripper Street", then I thought that maybe his character would turn out to be a vampire. I don't know why. This tv series wasn't supposed to be a fantasy, so I really don't know why I thought like that. But when he appeared for the first time, he looked quite mysterious. He wore sunglasses, black gloves, a white hat and long, white coat. So for me he looked like a vampire who was protecting himself from the sun. This is how he looked. Quote:
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He is nice, kind, he doesn't want to kill anybody or take revenge on anyone. So it's even sadder that his character can not be 100% happy. But in history Prince Ernest also had this disease, so it would be weird if David's character wouldn't have it too. But "Victoria" is mix of history and fiction, so they could make it that Ernest wouldn't get infected with this disease. Especially that they completely made up his affair with Harriet. In history they never had an affair. Last edited by Jemima1205; 09-12-2018 at 09:52 AM |
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I don't know... I liked his Juan.
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I didn't say that I don't like Juan, because I do.
And I really felt sorry for him after what he's been through and how he ended. I only didn't like what he was doing in second season. He was too brutal and too dangerous. That's why I liked him the most in first season. Last edited by Jemima1205; 09-12-2018 at 02:41 PM |
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Hi, Lila! Hi, Arinna! I liked David's Juan as well.
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Yes, from what you describe, Ernest does seem to be a lot different from David's other roles, but that's what makes it interesting. But Ernest also does seem like a sad, tragic character because of the bad stuff that happens to him that he doesn't really deserve. And he even had this disease as well? Well, if they made up that affair with Harriet then maybe they don't have to give him the disease. After all, The Borgias didn't give Cesare syphilis. Instead they gave it to Juan. __________________
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it was so funny when Juan asked the doctor if his fate was to be a blind, pox-ridden, madman with one leg |
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I know, right? Juan was going through that Book of Job thing, where it was just one thing after another. __________________
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I think it was a good idea to put that on Juan.
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What, give Juan syphilis, Arinna?
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David's look indeed reminds me of nice, cute "boy next door". He has that type of beauty. As for David and romantic roles, well, for me he's very appealing in romantic roles. But for me he's appealing in almost every his role. As for Juan being all his life in Cesare's shadow, yeah, I can agree. But it would be pretty sad if he was destined only to be in Cesare's shadow. It's kind of ironic, that Juan was Rodrigo's favored son, but somehow he didn't see it. Ok, maybe he somehow knew that, but he wasn't 100% sure. Especially that he suspected that Rodrigo might not be his real father. I really felt sorry for Juan, because, in my opinion, he always felt like a fifth wheel. Vanozza was focused only on Cesare and Lucrezia (as Alex mentioned it few posts ago). And Rodrigo was focused partly on Cesare and partly on Juan, but somehow he didn't saw that Juan was suffering. He never talked honestly with him and he never adviced him. Maybe that's why Juan acted like an annoying troll who only likes fun, sex, duels, parties and teasing his siblings. As for duels (fights?), I think that he probably wanted to show that he is better in something, than Cesare. That's why he always started fights. Quote:
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"But it's only your own fault, you buffoon! That's what you get when you are banging whores almost every night! " Quote:
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"OMG, is he gonna be a vampire or something?! Is he seducing this poor girl?! He totally looks like a seducing vampire!" Here you have another pic of Victor: If I would saw someone dressed as he, in the middle of the night (or even at day ), in some park or forest, I would probably run away. I know, he is devilishly handsome, but I would be like: "OMG, what a creep! Handsome, but creep! I'm getting away from here!" Quote:
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They could made up his affair with Harriet, but they couldn't spare him this disease? What a nonsense. So in history it was Cesare who had syphilis? Wow, I didn't know that. o_O Quote:
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I love Cesar, on the show & IRL. He's my favorite historical person & was a very complex, fascinating man. François played Cesar like I always imagined him: gorgeous, tall, built, charismatic, charming, loyal, ambitious, & dangerous....and in love with his sister I know you're not a fan of their incest, but I ship them 100% & that forbidden element makes the even hotter. But I understand how it could turn off someone & that's ok. We have the Cesar & Lucrezia thread for all of us shippers I felt pity for Juan, but cheered when Cesar & Micheletto threw him off that bridge. He was a murderer, a rapist, & would've killed the baby cause he believed Cesar might be the father & hated him. Cesar loved Lucrezia more than life, so threatening that baby signed his death warrant. Better a quick drowning than a slow rotting I'm happy he killed Paolo cause Lucrezia was Cesar's. I'm as ruthless as Cesar when it comes to anyone besides him having Lucrezia IRL, Juan was incompetent, a drunkard, & a whore. Most men were whores back then , and so was Cesar. He had syphilis, but so did half of Italy. Juan probably had it, too. He was a notorious womanizer, just like Cesar. They both slept with Sancia while she was married to their little brother. Very bad boys. But I still love Cesar, whoring, syphilis, incest, murder, and all Last edited by Mignonette; 09-14-2018 at 05:06 AM |
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Hi, Lila! You make a good point, in the actual history, neither Juan nor Cesare come off that good. I think the show did a good job at making Juan look both reprehensible, and tragic. Even though I felt the same way that Cesare and Lucrezia did about Juan after what he did to Paolo and how he threatened Lucrezia's baby, I still felt sorry for him that he had to come to that.
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You're welcome, Jemima. So Ernest does get the disease on the show? Yes, in the history it was Cesare who contracted syphilis, which forced him to wear a mask for a time to cover up his pustules. I guess they decided to give it to Juan to further expand on his tragic downfall. And I guess that's what Arinna mean when she said it was a good idea. __________________
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Thanks for that vid, Arinna!
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I kind of have a neutral feelings about him. It's not that I don't like him, but I'm not a fan either. But I can agree that he is very handsome and mysterious. There is something about him, but in the same time he kind of repulse me. Quote:
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As for Juan's suspicious that Cesare is father of Lucrezia's baby... hmmmm. I thought that Juan suspected that father of her baby was Paolo. And that's why he killed him. Not only because he didn't want Paolo to meet with Lucrezia, but also because he suspected that he might be a father of her baby. You really think that he also suspected Cesare for being Giovanni's father? I'm starting to be confused. Quote:
I LOVE Paolo . And I'm BIG fan of his relationship with Lucrezia! They were sooooo cute together. Don't be so mean to him. Quote:
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In a show Juan also was incompetent, womanizer, drunkard (mostly in second season) & a whore. As for Cesare, it seems to me that in a show he behaved a little more decently than in history. He wasn't that wild and dangerous. But probably he would be in fourth season. From season to season he started to be more dangerous, violent and scary. Quote:
Hmmmm, so I think that my love for Juan isn't as big as I thought. All this whoring, syphilis and murder stuff.... nope. I'm out. Whoring... ok, maybe (but still I wasn't happy that Juan was banging whores almost every night ), but syphilis and murder... nope. Quote:
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I would like to see David play more characters with long hair, it suits him. Have you seen "Dark Shadows"? Movie with Johnny Depp? Johnny played there a vampire who could walk freely during the day, but he had to be covered. You know: hat, sunglasses, gloves and long coat. Sounds familiar? Maybe that's why I thought that David's character gonna be a vampire. Because he kind of reminded me of Johnny's character from "Dark Shadows". This is how Johnny looked in that movie (This thread is about David/Juan, that's why I'm puting these pics as a links xD): https://i.imgur.com/32pc88F.jpg https://i.imgur.com/J3qBU0a.jpg https://i.imgur.com/XZeJMOh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/uaw37UN.jpg Quote:
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Thanks for this video. I think I haven't seen it yet. Last edited by Jemima1205; 09-15-2018 at 03:04 AM |
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