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Cesare & Lucrezia #49: "Why deny ourselves the pleasure of which we’re already accused?"- Lucrezia to Cesare
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Credit: May ~Quotes~ Lucrezia: "Don't hate me." Cesare: "I regret many feelings towards you, hate is not one of them." Cesare: "The whole world whispers, you and I are lovers. Should we prove them right?" Lucrezia: "I want to die, brother." Cesare: "Will you not talk like that, please!" Cesare: "Can I hold him?" Lucrezia: "And wake him? That would be cruelty indeed." Cesare: "I must hold you then." Lucrezia: "But we never before had secrets between us." Cesare: "Some things are better left unsaid." Lucrezia: "So I must divine then, the dark cloud on my brother's soul." Cesare: "You are criminally well informed, sis. But I trust your soul is still of the purest white." Lucrezia: "You will be a handsome Cardinal. Let me hug you!" Cesare: "Lucrezia, sister, share my fortune and my fate. And remember that wherever I may be, a part of me will always be yours." Lucrezia: "As I also belong to you, brother." Lucrezia: "No one here loves me as I was loved by you. I've tried everything, Cesare. No one wants to hear our name." Lucrezia: "My soul dies when I imagine never seeing you again." Cesare: "Lucrezia, Lucia, forgive me. All will be well if you forgive me. But you must live, sweet sister, live. We are one blood, one heart, one spirit." Lucrezia: "Cesare, love me!" Cesare: "For all eternity. Cesare: "Cesare Borgia and Lucrezia, we shall be remembered. Be faithful only to me not to him, the unholy father who prays to a nameless god. You shall have the world, not the hereafter. And your name eternal." Lucrezia: "I shall be duchess of Ferrarra, it's enough for me." Cesare: "In name but nothing more." Lucrezia: "In name and nothing more." Cesare: "I promised you a heart, sister." Lucrezia: "Whose? Your own?" Lucrezia: "What does it say of us, brother, that you promise me this and I would accept?" Lucrezia: "Cesare? I would ask you something.” Cesare: “Then ask and it is yours.” Lucrezia: “I would ask you to marry me.” Cesare: “As you wish. My word is my word. We shall run away. Change our names, perhaps. Live out our days in some small fishing village by the coast. where no one will ever guess who we once were.” Lucrezia: "To Alfonso." Cesare: "Yes, yes, I know." Cesare: "My love for my sister outweighs my grief for my brother." Cesare: "Are you a shepherd of souls now? Lucrezia: "And I see before me a lost sheep." Cesare: "Utterly lost, my love." Lucrezia: "Then, by hook or by crook I shall save you. You may kiss my ring!" Cesare: "Don't I know how to organize a party for my sister?" Lucrezia: "Thank you, Cesare!" Cesare: "And I think I've done well. Look. I'm the one who chose the guests." Lucrezia: "They're all courtesans." Cesare: "Did you desire monks and nuns?" Lucrezia: "Oh, no! No formalities!" Lucrezia: "So then, I shall become a nun. For I shall never love a husband as I love you, Cesare."
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Here's the conversation from the previous thread:
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thanks for the new thread Alex
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tftnt, Alex! I love the title!
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You're both welcome, Arinna and Linda!
I understand that Spain is Cesare's home, and I guess it makes sense to want his remains there because of his family. I just don't like that he's so far away from Lucrezia. Now didn't Mario Puzo write that he wanted Cesare to take Lucrezia's virginity so that the first man she would be with was a Borgia, to keep her close to the family? And did Rodrigo want Cesare to impregnate her, or was it just ceremonial? __________________
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See Alex, that's the stuff I remember. I just don't remember where it came from but someone wrote Rodrigo witnessing Lucrezia and Cesare having sex.
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Oh, so that wasn't just Mario Puzo, but someone's actual account of the family history?
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Yes, Alex.
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HI EVERYONEEEE Sorry I've been MIA for a few months I've been on kind of a Star Wars high Other than that, I've been off the boards for a while.
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Makes sense. "Only a Borgia can truly love a Borgia." The looks between Cesare and Lucrezia were undeniably filled with attraction WAY before they entered an incestuous relationship. In fact, the chemistry was so strong between Francois and Holly that I often forgot that they were playing siblings __________________
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Who, actually knows really?
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Well, the Mario Puzo thing was a book, May. But you don't remember which book it was your read?
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Yeah, we feel the same way. I think that Francois and Holly weren't even trying to play them as siblings near the end. Everything about them was totally romantic for most of the show. __________________
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Arinna + Alex Thank you both
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You could tell from interviews that they were excited to play Cesare and Lucrezia as lovers. Francois had been waiting since episode one I don't get why it would freak audiences out It was historical legend that they might have even had a baby together. Plus, there's like an incestuous couple on Game of Thrones every other episode, so __________________
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They both insisted that Cesare and Lucrezia loved each other.
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