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Old 04-01-2018, 04:19 PM
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Hi, Linda! Happy Easter!


I'll reply to you soon. It's been a busy Sunday.
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Old 04-02-2018, 11:52 AM
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If I remember correctly Francois told him that, that romantic vibe was in all of his writing for them.
I clearly remember Francois mentioned something during a writing interview about how their scenes were not very sibling like, how was it possible that it wasn't meant to go that way? remember Francois was the captain of our ship for a reason and during S1 promo Jordan also offered his opinion on the matter and said that was not the intention and that he wasn't planning to go there at all.
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Old 04-02-2018, 01:19 PM
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We kind of knew that Francois is the King of our ship, but we didn't know that Holy is his queen the whole time!
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Old 04-02-2018, 04:33 PM
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I clearly remember Francois mentioned something during a writing interview about how their scenes were not very sibling like, how was it possible that it wasn't meant to go that way? remember Francois was the captain of our ship for a reason and during S1 promo Jordan also offered his opinion on the matter and said that was not the intention and that he wasn't planning to go there at all.
Hi, May! Yeah, I think Francois mentioned it in the video interviews for Showtime as well. It might be in the video that I posted. Jordan can go jump in the Tiber.

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Yes it was very hypocritical and contradictory of Jordan to say that he doesn't believe the incest actually happened or that he doesn't like the incest, when HE was the one who decided to romanticise Cesare & Lu's relationship to begin with, HE was the one who gave the siblings all these romantic and intimate scenes and dialogues and interactions together in S1, which triggered so many fans to fall in love with the siblings' incestuous relationship. So if you think about it, it was Jordan himself who basically made the fans fall in love with the incest, so he has no one but himself to blame.
But I've come to realise that Jordan is a very confusing and conflicted man, so I've given up trying to comprehend him.

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Hi, Linda! Yep, I totally agree with you. Like we've mentioned, there were a lot of things that happened on the show that were not in the history, like Lucrezia and Paolo(it was Perotto), Cesare and the beautiful deception, Prince Alfonso being tortured and killed by King Charles, Rodrigo and Bianca Gonzaga, etc. And there have been several European programs about the Borgia family that already explored the incest between Cesare and Lucrezia, so what's his big issue?
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Old 04-03-2018, 11:16 AM
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We kind of knew that Francois is the King of our ship, but we didn't know that Holy is his queen the whole time!
Holly spoiled us on season 3 making it canon but we didn't want to believe her this was before the trailers came out, she said something that hinted we were getting canon and months later when I realized she wasn't teasing I publicly apologized for my comments I think on Tumblr or Twitter
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Old 04-03-2018, 01:30 PM
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And she was all giggly when she was telling all about it. They must've had so much fun!
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Old 04-05-2018, 06:47 AM
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Jordan wrote it, but it were Francois and Holy, who made it happen!
definitely, while Jordan wrote the incest, Francois & Holly were the ones who brought it to life on screen, it was their incredible chemistry & performances that really made the incest believable and beautiful but Cesare & Lu's relationship was always very romantic from day 1, that was how Jordan wrote it, so he only has himself to blame.

It's so obvious that both Francois and Holly loved the incest plotline they argued with Jordan numerous times over the incest plotline and fought hard for it, I'm sure they enjoyed filming all those romantic scenes together
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Old 04-05-2018, 11:13 AM
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I'm bringing it back cause is EPIC.

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Old 04-05-2018, 02:41 PM
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That's the interview I was talking about!
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Old 04-06-2018, 03:46 PM
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definitely, while Jordan wrote the incest, Francois & Holly were the ones who brought it to life on screen, it was their incredible chemistry & performances that really made the incest believable and beautiful but Cesare & Lu's relationship was always very romantic from day 1, that was how Jordan wrote it, so he only has himself to blame.

It's so obvious that both Francois and Holly loved the incest plotline they argued with Jordan numerous times over the incest plotline and fought hard for it, I'm sure they enjoyed filming all those romantic scenes together
Hi, Linda! Yes, Francois and Holly made it work perfectly onscreen. But they'd never have gotten the idea to do it if it hadn't been for Jordan's original script. I've never seen more self-denial in my life, to be honest. Yeah, like I said, that first scene between them has unmistakable romantic undertones, so I don't know what Jordan is talking about with his denials.

Oh, I'd love to know how Francois and Holly felt about doing the love scenes, like the bedroom seduction scene or when Cesare and Lucrezia finally had sex.

Is that the same video I already posted, May?
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Old 04-06-2018, 04:28 PM
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You posted one? I don't see the videos or pictures you guys post from work sorry
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Old 04-06-2018, 04:34 PM
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Oh no, I just checked and that's not the same video I posted. Sorry, May. Mine was the Showtime interviews.

But I do remember that video. Those are the red carpet interviews.
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Old 04-06-2018, 09:35 PM
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Thanks for posting the video I remember I saw that interview with Holly last year, loved the part when she laughed after she mentioned the incest in S3, she seemed almost a bit shy about it, I remember Francois had a similar reaction when he mentioned it in an interview for S3
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Old 04-07-2018, 01:32 PM
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And where is that Francois interview?
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Old 04-08-2018, 04:41 PM
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Hi, Linda! Yeah, do you know what interview it was? Maybe Arinna can find it.
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