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Old 12-10-2019, 04:10 PM
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The Borgias Guilty Pleasure #16: "All things are permissible in our dreams." - Giulia Farnese

Welcome to the 16th The Borgias Guilty Pleasure Thread

We are curious to know, besides Cesare and Lucrezia, what else do you ship? And we mean something different than an ordinary ship. Share your opinions below.

The Borgias Thread of the Impossible Loves




Peter and Claire (Paire) - Heroes



Jasson/Jessica - True Blood



Norma/Norman - Bates Motel





Cathy/Chris - Flowers in the Attic Noves



Aria/Ezra (Ezria) - Pretty Little Liars




Jamie/Cersei - GoT



Klaus/Rebecah - The Originals
(sourse: May)



Luke/Leia - Star Wars


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Old 12-10-2019, 06:48 PM
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TFTNT Alex! And thanks for using my quote

Have you seen all the Flowers in the Attic movies?
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tftnt, ALex!
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You're welcome, Arinna!

You're welcome, Lila! Well, I saw the original Flowers In The Attic movie from 1987, and the first three Lifetime TV movies, but I didn't see the fourth one, Seeds of Yesterday. I read the books and I knew how the story ended, so I wasn't interested in the last one.
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I've watched them all.
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Then you know why I skipped the last one, Arinna.
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Yeah...
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Then you know why I skipped the last one, Arinna.
I wish I had, Alex
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I wish I had, Alex


I'd have told you in advance if you'd asked me, but I don't think you were here yet.

Yeah, I preferred how things ended with Chris and Cathy in If There Be Thorns. I really didn't think Seeds of Yesterday was necessary. V.C. Andrews didn't write Seeds, it was pieced together from manuscripts left behind after her death by a ghost writer, who finished the rest. V.C. Andrews only wrote Flowers In The Attic, Petals On The Wind, and If There Be Thorns... before she died.
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I'd have told you in advance if you'd asked me, but I don't think you were here yet.

Yeah, I preferred how things ended with Chris and Cathy in If There Be Thorns. I really didn't think Seeds of Yesterday was necessary. V.C. Andrews didn't write Seeds, it was pieced together from manuscripts left behind after her death by a ghost writer, who finished the rest. V.C. Andrews only wrote Flowers In The Attic, Petals On The Wind, and If There Be Thorns... before she died.
I wonder if she would've approved of that awful ending and I agree that Seeds of Yesterday was unnecessary. Like the Borgia Apocalypse, it destroyed everything.
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I've watched it... and only the first half.
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I've watched it... and only the first half.
My perverse curious nature made me watch it all and now, I wish that I could unsee it
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I wonder if she would've approved of that awful ending and I agree that Seeds of Yesterday was unnecessary. Like the Borgia Apocalypse, it destroyed everything.
I have no idea, but that whole thing with Cathy dying up in the attic and Chris dying the same way their father died, getting struck by a car... well, it does seem like some "full circle" thing a writer might do.
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I have no idea, but that whole thing with Cathy dying up in the attic and Chris dying the same way their father died, getting struck by a car... well, it does seem like some "full circle" thing a writer might do.
Create something just to destroy it, how sad. It's a kind of righteous moralism which says, "I don't agree with your morals, so you need to be punished". It makes me want to slap the arrogance right out of them
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Yeah, well that's why I prefer to stick to the first three books. If it were me, I'd have ended with that and not done Seeds at all.
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