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Old 01-18-2019, 09:57 PM
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I wish they'd bring back The Borgias
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Old 01-19-2019, 02:04 PM
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With a better screenplay.
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Old 01-19-2019, 02:30 PM
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I wish they'd bring back The Borgias
Oh, we tried, Lila. We did the campaign here and everything. Sadly we're never gonna see what would've happened if we got a season 4. Man, would ten episodes have killed Neil Jordan?
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Old 01-19-2019, 02:33 PM
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Me too but not with Lucrezia poisoning Cesare or Cesare having sex with Micheletto
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Old 01-19-2019, 02:36 PM
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No, definitely not that. And did that happen in the Apocalypse script? I didn't read the full synopsis.
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Old 01-19-2019, 02:40 PM
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If I remember well there was something along these lines. She was quite afraid of Cesare too.
There is a scene in the bathtub between Ces and Mich.
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Old 01-19-2019, 02:45 PM
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I think I remember the bathtub scene, but I didn't know there was any sex there.

And why would Lucrezia be afraid of Cesare? Did Jordan not know the history between these two at all? She was never afraid of him.
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Old 01-19-2019, 02:48 PM
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Not sure about the sex, but there was something weird between these two.

I agree with you about Lu not being afraid of Ces.
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Old 01-19-2019, 02:57 PM
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Yeah, that's what I think I read. Mich walked in on Cesare in a bathtub, but I don't think the two had sex. That really doesn't make sense as it doesn't fit Cesare's character.

And when had Lucrezia ever felt afraid of Cesare? Didn't she tell him in season 3 that she only feels safe when he's around?
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Old 01-20-2019, 02:03 PM
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Yes, she never felt threatened by Cesare.
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Old 01-20-2019, 02:43 PM
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NJ did everything in that awful apocalypse script to destroy Lu & Ces's relationship. He spent 15 years researching the Borgias, so he knew they were bonded and loyal to each til the end of their lives. Ces even risked his life from prison in Spain to write coded letters to her and she was devastated by his death. Maybe NJ wrote that script as a parody, but since he's kept quiet about his intentions, we can only speculate.
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NJ did everything in that awful apocalypse script to destroy Lu & Ces's relationship. He spent 15 years researching the Borgias, so he knew they were bonded and loyal to each til the end of their lives. Ces even risked his life from prison in Spain to write coded letters to her and she was devastated by his death. Maybe NJ wrote that script as a parody, but since he's kept quiet about his intentions, we can only speculate.
Yeah, that's exactly what it seemed like NJ was doing, destroying Ces and Lu just for spite and to give the middle finger to the fans, unfortunately. He has no respect for the fans or the history of these characters.
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Old 01-21-2019, 03:16 PM
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But it's good the show ended in the way it did.
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Old 01-21-2019, 04:06 PM
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Yeah, I guess, Arinna. I still would've liked to see that ending where Cesare lies dying on the battlefield while Lucrezia reads aloud his last letter to her while flashbacks of their memories together flash on the screen.
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Old 01-21-2019, 06:36 PM
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Yeah, I guess, Arinna. I still would've liked to see that ending where Cesare lies dying on the battlefield while Lucrezia reads aloud his last letter to her while flashbacks of their memories together flash on the screen.
OMG NO! I couldn't have watched my Cesar die It was bad enough how he died IRL and I love François' Cesar so much that I couldn't bear it.
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