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Old 05-20-2019, 02:28 AM
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So the only reason they had Daenerys come back to Westeros was not because to rule as Queen or visit her ancestral home or meet her last living family but to fight Night King and kill people like Cersei and Varys to make way for House Starks without them getting their hand dirty in the process.

They literally used her, her dragons and her armies to fight the war of Westeros, made her villain out of nowhere and had her lover kill her when she is most vulnerable, when she thought he loved her.

Now that all the major villains are out of the line what they did? Killed Dany the first chance they got and funny enough Tyrion who was ready to give Cersei her nth chance even after all the horrible things she had done, was manipulating Jon to kill her.

Her dragons? Two of them are dead and third flew away with her mother’s dead body with no closure whatsoever.

Her army? Well now the war is over no need to stay in Westeros anymore, so they are now leaving, convenient enough, right?

So going by the show, her only purpose was to take all the hard hitting bullets of criticism and at the same time keep clearing way for them to rule after her.

She should have stayed out of the war and chill in Essos with her people. Have NK kill everyone in the Westeros it’s what they deserve. They didn’t deserve her.
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Old 05-20-2019, 04:34 AM
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Emilia Clarke should have been told Dany's fate years ago. The fact that she found out only before filming is so ****ing dumb. God I'm so disappointed.
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Emilia Clarke should have been told Dany's fate years ago. The fact that she found out only before filming is so ****ing dumb. God I'm so disappointed.


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Old 05-20-2019, 11:03 AM
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i just hope Emilia will notice how many people still love Daenerys and think she deserved a better ending than this. i hope she will find comfort in the love of the fans who still stand behind Daenerys as Queen. i hope she will see that people know Dany is not the villain of this story.
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Right.

I reject this narrative they forced about Daenerys.
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great acting though
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Thank you for those GIFs. If only Emilia knew what was coming... she would have aced it even more, and it would have been satisfying for all of us.
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that scene was amazing
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Old 05-21-2019, 12:37 AM
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Thank you for those GIFs. If only Emilia knew what was coming... she would have aced it even more, and it would have been satisfying for all of us.
exactly this!

i feel like no one had a plan about Dany becoming evil and it was all written very rushed and badly. you NEED to tell an actress several years before that she is the big bad evil, so she has the CHANCE to act that. i mean Emilia did wonderful, the best she could, but even she said she wished she knew.
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exactly this!

i feel like no one had a plan about Dany becoming evil and it was all written very rushed and badly. you NEED to tell an actress several years before that she is the big bad evil, so she has the CHANCE to act that. i mean Emilia did wonderful, the best she could, but even she said she wished she knew.
Add the burden of having so many women look up to you and then having to find out, in the last minute, that they were cheering for the villain. I mean, so many young girls see Dany as someone who has overcome so much and still managed to be good, then season 8 happens.

Got this from a blog site and I think they say it perfectly:

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Emilia Clarke spoke to The New Yorker a few days ago for an interview that was released just as the final episode of Game of Thrones concluded last night to talk about how she felt about Daenerys Targaryen’s arc. The piece opens with how she worried about disappointing Beyoncé – it happened at Beyoncé and Jay-Z’s now annual Oscar after-party, now known as the best Oscar after-party:

“I see this vision, this angel, this incredible woman float towards me,” Clarke recalled the other day. “I can’t quite control myself. And Beyoncé says to me, ‘Oh, my goodness, it’s so wonderful to meet you. I think you’re brilliant.’ I just couldn’t handle it! I was on the verge of tears. I could see myself reflected in her eyes. I could see her go, ‘Oh, no. I misjudged this. This girl is crazy and I’m not going to have a real conversation with another celebrity. I’m having a conversation with a crazed fan who’s looking at me like a rabbit in the headlights.’ Which is exactly what I was. I said, ‘I’ve seen you live in concert and I think you’re amazing and wonderful! Wonderful!’ And all I wanted to scream was ‘Please, please still like me even though my character turns into a mass-killing dictator! Please still think that I’m representing women in a really fabulous way.’”

Does Beyoncé think they did Dany dirty? I would think so, yes. Would she hold it against Emilia Clarke? Of course not. Emilia Clarke acted the sh-t out of her scenes this season. She made those scenes better than they deserved to be.

That’s two formidable women who play two of the most intriguing characters on television named to the TIME 100 talking about their work in terms of pleasing Beyoncé in the space of a month. The other one was Sandra Oh.
This is a woman who many people look up to. There may have been signs, but they were way too subtle (if they even tried). Not even one scene to lead up to us questioning her decisions in a major way... to scare us about what she could possibly do in the future. Season 6-7 would have been the perfect time to do this, but sure... Anyway, Emilia was awesome and we can hold on to that.
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It was what I expected, I am pretty sure I accidentally saw part of one of the leaks, Jon killing Dany and her body being taken away by Drogon.

And it sucked. I hate how we're supposed to be cool with a character set up as a hero for seven seasons being abruptly villainised and killed off, which was immediately followed by a lame comedic scene! Like "WELL THAT SORTS THAT SHALL WE MOVE ON TO THE JOKEZ??". It is so messed up to market her as a positive female icon to bring in all that fan money, then pull a bait and switch. Even on Emilia, she 100% should have known from the start, Alan Rickman was told unpublished things about Snape to help his portrayal be more accurate. Emilia thought Dany was a heroic character that women and girls found inspiring, and played her as such for a decade, if they had to do the "mad queen" she should have been told so she could add a bit of subtle unhinged behaviour that increases over time. Everything she did was an act of medieval style war, and was not worse (except S8E5) than any other person in power was doing.

And nobody is "concerned" about Bran's state of mind? He seems way more messed in the head than Dany prior to episode 5 (which was super forced to hammer down the "she's totally evil now!!", and he allowed everything to happen without warning anyone so he could happily accept being king. If he can see the future too then he knew everything that was coming, and everything with "mad Dany" was after the NK was dead, so was there any worse possibility than thousands of people dying at KL that meant Bran wouldn't change things? Or did he just want the throne? Enjoy your "peace" Westeros!


I love the Dany dragon wings shot, and the actors did well, that is the only positive remark I have. Years ago I would never have imagined the final episode would leave me with nothing more than a "meh" feeling.
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I got attacked elsewhere for asserting that David and Dan lied to millions of viewers about Dany being a hero, but that's exactly what they did.
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I got attacked elsewhere for asserting that David and Dan lied to millions of viewers about Dany being a hero, but that's exactly what they did.
Where did you get attacked for this? In the GOT spoiler thread? Bc the mod there is a dany hater so I refrain from posting in this thread. Either way it's true that D&D said that and hence lied.
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