NOLA504

IceKat055

The whore is dead. I'm not exactly surprised by that, I think they heard the majority of the fan base and the hatred for Ros, and planned to kill her off all along. But that was pretty brutal. Joffrey SUCKS.

NOLA504

RIP Ros I actually liked her.

Lutesse

I liked her, too, best of all the invented characters. Killing her off like that was really sick, and Littlefinger sucks as bad as Joffrey. Of course, we knew that; but LF is so slick you sometimes forget how vile he is.

I usually re-watch each episode 2-3 times during the week after it airs. Between Ros, Theon, Tywin, Melisandre and that vertigo-inducing Wall, I may not watch this one again.

IceKat055

I think this was the weakest episode of the season. Not terrible, but not strong at all. Loved the Tywin/Lady Olenna scene - - two brilliant actors there. Jaime got his snark back! And that li'l Bastard Bolton - - creepy.

NOLA504

That Tywin/Lady Olenna scene had me dying laughing both were so witty.

Also the Osha and Reed girl scene was funny. lol

True.

lunas_borednow

He's my evil little bastard...

Lutesse

See, I never laugh at Tywin. He's the most frightening of them all. With Lady Olenna, it's a battle of wits. For Tywin, it's a battle of wills - and he cannot tolerate having his crossed.

But yes, I did laugh out loud over the Osha & Meera rabbit-skinning dispute.

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Heda_Khaleesi

all in all i totally agree with you MovieManiac ok maybe except the jon/ygritte scene. i still don't like these two but they had great scenes in this episode.

it was the weakest episode yet, i hope next week will be better. i liked the promo (maybe more than the episode itself)

Zefiro

Ros death was unnecessary gross and sexualized.

I felt sick,tbh.

Roxy87

Oh gosh, the episode I thought was the strongest of this terrible season by far is the one so many here are complaining about Of course that would be the way it goes.

Ros' death was awful and completely unnecessary. It added nothing to the story we didn't already know. Yes, Joffrey is a sadistic psycho who enjoys hurting people. Yes, Littlefinger is pure undiluted evil who exploits women and children. We know this. So what happened with Ros added nothing and was just unnecessarily brutal.

If that scene hadn't been there, this would have been a near perfect episode IMO because we saw the return of the Starks as the main characters. The beginning of the season positioned them as extras while minor characters took the lead. But this episode was very Stark and Lannister heavy, which is great for me since they are the characters I watch the show for.

While I'm not a fan of a lot of the changes that have been made, this episode changed my mind about the decisions to eliminate Willas Tyrell and give his role to Loras as well as the decision to eliminate Edric Storm (Robert's only acknowledged bastard) and give his role to Gendry. Both do make sense now IMO because it takes away the need to add even more characters in a character heavy show.

Also, the Sansa/Loras scene made it possible to show Sansa's happiness in the match in a concrete way that made sense for the show. In the book, her excitement is mostly in her head where she thinks about Willas and the family they'll have. That doesn't translate onscreen nearly so well as her actually being in love with Loras and spending time with him.

With Gendry, I'm happy they're giving him more screentime since he is by far the most popular of Robert's bastards. I hate that the first half of the season didn't show nearly enough of his scenes with Arya and the Brotherhood, but it's going to be interesting to see what happens with him in this new story twist. I'm really hoping for Gendry/Stannis soon.

And Mel taking the place of the Ghost of High Heart with Arya was interesting. I'm not sure where that's leading though :unsure:

The scene with Thoros and Mel was great even though it wasn't in the books. It makes complete sense since they are serving the same power. I also loved the reference to Thoros' task of coming to Westeros to convert the king. Though it was Aerys he came to convert, it makes just as much sense for them to simplify to just being Robert who he was BFFs with.

And even though we know Robb is making a bad decision by trying to get in good with the Frey again, I really enjoyed those scenes too. Seeing Cat, Robb, Edmure, and the Blackfish together should be a necessity of every episode. The Tully's just aren't featured nearly enough despite how important they are. It was odd that the Blackfish was so adamant about Edmure marrying someone he didn't want to though since he refused to do the same when his brother demanded it. But it was nice that Robb admitted his mistake and let Edmure decide for himself if he would help him rectify it. I just wish we had gotten more of the Tully interactions so this moment would matter more.

Another sequence that would have benefited from more screentime before this episode was Jon's with the Wildlings. It would have meant a lot more if we had been getting more into the Wildling culture and why this is extremely important for them. But still, I loved the scenes of them making their way up. They were pretty epic. And Jon&Ygritte

Also, SAM AND THE DRAGONGLASS DAGGER!!!!! Yes! I thought that had been cut completely. I'm so glad it was just moved around. I can't wait until that comes into play, hopefully soon

Another nice touch was the title of the episode. With previous episodes, it almost seemed like they were just picking them out of a hat at random. This one actually fit the episode in a dual way. Of course, we saw the Wildlings climbing the Wall, but we also had Littlefinger's speech about a more metaphorical climb.

So, overall I really liked this episode. I hope the coming ones continue with this trend.

Zefiro

I am not ready to see Arya alone without Gendry. I kind of wished she followed him.
Also I was so sure she was going to hit Melissandre when they were taking away Gendry.
I've never read the books, so I'm happy for Gendry in general but boy, I shall miss their adventures together.
LMAO, I swear Edmure seems hilarious as hell. That scene was pure gold.

Olenna and Tywin were amazing too. I also think Olenna has something up her sleeve to trick Tywin about Loras We shall see.

My favourite scenes in the episodes were Meli/Thoros and Tyrion/Cersei. It was refreshing to see Tyrion and Cersei act like the two siblings they actually are.

I wish we could have seen Tyrion telling Sansa.In front of Shae. I would have taken that instead of 10 minutes of Theon being tortured by Barry.I feel like we got cheated because I really wanted to see that scene. GRRR.

I think they're bragging Bran's storyline too much. I was so excited for him because this magic storyline looked amazing but they're not focusing on it at all.I can't believe they focused on skinning rabbits and the quarrel between the two girls whose names I can't tell right now,sorry.

Don't care about Jon/Ygritte. They are fun sometimes but they've had too many scenes in this episode I don't care about,tbh. I want to know more about war,plotting and fights.

theultimateawesome

I totally agree with this. I liked the episode, but there were some things I wanted out of it. I'm glad that at least we didn't have to watch what happened to Ros. It being more of a flashback-ish scene took a lot of the pain away from it, but I was still sick after seeing it. I will say that it did serve its purpose in reminding me of how far Littlefinger is willing to go to get what he wants. It's sick.

Zefiro

I completely understand your feelings about Ros, I had to wait more than a day to comment the episode and not only focus on that scene. And I wasn't even a fan of her, I was just completely neutral.