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Speaking of, I read the theory that Klaus would have totes supported Caroline over the no humanity thing. He would have let her be for a year instead on buggering her to turn it on. Thoughts? __________________
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^ I read that Klaus would join her without needing to flip his humanity which would make him the self-less one. Stefan is such a jerk for needing to flip it instead of just letting Caroline be. But Caroline was just being a good friend when she was pestering Stefan in the beginning of the season I'm sorry but I don't get how two characters can do the same thing but the one is wrong and the other is right. I try to judge them equally.
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Ugh, idk, I think I agree. She really wasn't doing anything dangerous until they pushed her and Klaus never really tried to force her to do anything she didn't want to, so I can see him respecting her wish to turn it off for a year and even believe that she needs to experience this. On the other hand, her humanity was always something he admired in her, so I could also see him trying to bring her back. Quote:
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I think Klaus would have let her be until she became a problem. He would probably keep a close eye on her and make sure she was living up to their deal, but if she caused problems for him he would have her locked up and trying to get her to flip her switch.
I mean I know he always admired her humanity, but I think he would have respected her wishes even though he would tell her that she should feel everything and delaying the inevitable will make it that much worse. So I can see him being a reluctant support system in her turning her humanity off, but being a force to be reckoned with if he wanted her to turn it back on. __________________
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Caroline isn't killing anyone but she was feeding from Liam and that is something that she has shown disapproval of when Tyler and Elena did it. She may have been planning to stick to bloodbags after that Liam incident but we can't say for sure. __________________
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I really doubt she'd feel too much grief over feeding straight from the vein when she turned it on. __________________
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They're all like that when switches get flipped. I think Caroline had a good plan but I understand why they want to help and he also knows that it was best for him to flip it back in his dark days so he actually has a better understanding. I don't think the feeding would have bothered her too much but now she's moving onto killing it seems. It should be interesting to see if it affects her or she gets the standard freepassing. __________________
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She's shown disapproval towards Elena feeding in 6x01. She looked pretty disgusted and Caroline sticks to the bloodbag diet as far as we know so I think it's possible she might have issues with it. I think the fact that she was a human bloodbag contributes to her control. She was abused so why would she be okay with doing that to others? She didn't want Elena being tortured to flip it because of her own torture experiences. When Damon was torturing someone in 5x21 she couldn't watch so I do think her personal experiences help keep her in control. Caroline's attitude towards killing is inconsistent that I can't be certain of how she's going to react when she flips it. She didn't dwell on killing that carnival guy and didn't care too much for killing her mom's police officers or Luke but she was a bit broken over killing the witches. And she couldn't kill Tom Avery even though she promised she would. Plus she's shown disapproval towards Enzo and Damon because of their killing. Or at least she did in season 5. In season 6 she seemed to care less. I guess we'll see how it goes. She'll feel guilt if they need it to push her storyline forward otherwise they'll probably forget about it. __________________
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But Caroline isn't the others, just because Stefan and Elena were a certain way they can't expect everyone else to be that way too, if Caroline was killing and causing trouble then I would understand, but again, she wasn't doing anything. The least he could do was wait to see how she would behave. She's only killing bc Stefan made her. Meh, she'll get a freepass like everyone else. __________________
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Stefan didn't force her. She has the killer instincts and she chose to give in so I can see her feeling guilty. It will all depend on the plot in the end. Stefan's guilt for being a bad friend was prolonged because they needed it. So I can see them making her feeling guilt or shame to create issues with SC. __________________
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I don't think Caroline's going to feel the guilt too much either way. She ain't Stefan or Elena, the guilt sls are usually reserved for them. __________________
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I agree with most of it too I don't think she's a saint or moral compass exactly. She was never meant to be one. Remember way back in season 1 'Girl likes boy, boy likes girl. Sex!' She was suppose to be the more reckless one and Bonnie was suppose to be the judgy one. Even in the latest episode she didn't want to feed because she was scared of getting locked up and tortured not because she'd feel guilty about it when she flipped it. Maybe Caroline just expects better from Elena which is why she's brought up Elena's bad choices and Damon which is unfair tbh to single her out. IDK Or maybe they just like using Caroline because when Bonnie hated on Damon fans hated on Bonnie. I'm not saying Caroline doesn't have a right to hate on Damon but it's interesting that they silenced Bonnie when it came to Damon after season 2.
Caroline's morals change between episodes which is where my confusion comes in. When Tyler wanted to feed in s3 or Elena in 6x01 feeding was a problem hence Elena needing to get compelled. Enzo called her judgy in 5x17 when she brought up him and Damon killing people but in 6x03 it wasn't a problem when Enzo fed and killed. I do think her morals stopped her from killing Tom since they pretty much stated that and it's canon. She spent time with the guy and saw he was good just like she spent time with Jesse and got mad at Elena for murdering him. I think since she didn't know Tylers's friend it didn't impact her as much. I think Caroline's morals change depending on the storyline so if guilt is necessary she's gonna feel it. I wouldn't even be surprised if they she felt a lot of guilt for the humanity flip. *************************************************************************************************** xx __________________
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^ Yeah, like everything on this show, Caroline's morals aren't exactly consistent. So we can't really predict 100% how she'll react once the switch is back on, because we don't know what they want to do with her next. I do think that Caroline not feeling guilty and then fading to background again is the most likely scenario here though.
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