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Old 05-16-2018, 05:45 PM
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That's awesome that you got to meet her! What else have you seen her in?

She would definitely be a good ally to have. She's smart and seems really determined to protect her people.
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That’s awesome, Mark! From her tweets, she seems like a lovely person.

I’m very intrigued by Diyoza, she’s clearly a very smart, calculating and forward thinking person and that will make for some compelling storytelling this season.
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Old 05-16-2018, 08:47 PM
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What I wonder about Diyoza is why she’s so loyal to the other ex-prisoners. As a Navy SEAL who turned freedom fighter/terrorist when, as she said, “my country turned to tyranny,” she seems like a very different type of “criminal” than the rest. Does she really want the only surviving remnant of humanity to be a bunch of criminally insane murderers? Plus, given that the other prisoners are all men (as far as I’ve seen), the Eligius people on their own have no hope of setting up a society that can survive and reproduce. Seems like Diyoza would be better throwing in her lot with the bunker people.
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I do wonder that too, she is very loyal to them and protective over them. And I wonder what sickness they have.
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And I wonder what sickness they have.
I would like to know that, too ... Hopefully we'll find out soon

Abby seems to be the key in that sickness story and I could imagine that Abby and Kane may have a lot of influence when it comes to a prevent a war

I hope the prisoners don't use Kane as a hostage to make Abby compliant

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Old 05-17-2018, 05:12 PM
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What I wonder about Diyoza is why she’s so loyal to the other ex-prisoners. As a Navy SEAL who turned freedom fighter/terrorist when, as she said, “my country turned to tyranny,” she seems like a very different type of “criminal” than the rest. Does she really want the only surviving remnant of humanity to be a bunch of criminally insane murderers? Plus, given that the other prisoners are all men (as far as I’ve seen), the Eligius people on their own have no hope of setting up a society that can survive and reproduce. Seems like Diyoza would be better throwing in her lot with the bunker people.
I think there's probably more to the story that might explain her loyalty to them. Also, she at least knows the other prisoners and has some history with them in which they had the opportunity to gain her trust. And I don't think Wonkru made a great first impression. After propelling in to the middle of the fighting ring, I don't blame her for being wary of them. Even Bellamy and Clarke looked uneasy.



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Thanks, Sonja! When Amy posted it I just had to snatch it up
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Old 05-17-2018, 08:21 PM
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Diyoza might have gone back on her deal, but she's very strategic and seems like a smart person. She seems to think things through like a proper leader, even if she's antagonistic. And there's humanity to her, too. We got a tiny bit of that with Dante, but then eventually even when Clarke tried to reason with him, he went back on that and let Cage do what he wanted.

I think Diyoza has valid reasons for reneging on the deal. One of them was probably seeing the fighting pit and being like... no way can we live with all these people who have their own drama and rules. On top of being way outnumbered, even if they get the prisoners down from Eligus IV - 290 (give or take: Kodiak, "four of ours are dead," Madi killed a few, plus the one McCreary just killed) vs. 814??? Not a chance she's going to take.
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What I wonder about Diyoza is why she’s so loyal to the other ex-prisoners. As a Navy SEAL who turned freedom fighter/terrorist when, as she said, “my country turned to tyranny,” she seems like a very different type of “criminal” than the rest. Does she really want the only surviving remnant of humanity to be a bunch of criminally insane murderers? Plus, given that the other prisoners are all men (as far as I’ve seen), the Eligius people on their own have no hope of setting up a society that can survive and reproduce. Seems like Diyoza would be better throwing in her lot with the bunker people.
Interesting perspective. I agree about why it would make sense for her to ally herself with the bunker people but she's been with her people for literally a hundred years so that sense of loyalty is hard to shake, even if I'm sure she is smart enough to know that she needs to have a long-term strategy for survival.
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I think Diyoza has valid reasons for reneging on the deal. One of them was probably seeing the fighting pit and being like... no way can we live with all these people who have their own drama and rules. On top of being way outnumbered, even if they get the prisoners down from Eligus IV - 290 (give or take: Kodiak, "four of ours are dead," Madi killed a few, plus the one McCreary just killed) vs. 814??? Not a chance she's going to take.
I wouldn't be so sure about that
Diyoza and the prisoners have the better weapons and they have missiles
They can wipe a bunch of people out in no time with their arsenal of weapons
The BunkerKru and Clarke have weapons too, but their weapons are not as good as Diyoza's

I still have hope that they can overcome that conflict without a fight
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I think Diyoza has valid reasons for reneging on the deal. One of them was probably seeing the fighting pit and being like... no way can we live with all these people who have their own drama and rules. On top of being way outnumbered, even if they get the prisoners down from Eligus IV - 290 (give or take: Kodiak, "four of ours are dead," Madi killed a few, plus the one McCreary just killed) vs. 814??? Not a chance she's going to take.
Yeah, strategically speaking, it made sense for Diyoza to order the hit on Wonkru too since they would be completely outnumbered in an hand-to-hand combat situation ... even if Eligius has the big guns. Interesting that she only did that when the random Eligius dude sparked the tension by shooting at Octavia though. That means that perhaps she has a bit of compassion there. And didn't she originally tell McCreary that she wanted to kill everyone but Abby since they needed her?

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