Fuzzy Dunlop

Okay, hands up. How many of you thought that was going to turn out to be the big cannibalism reveal?

But instead it's... weirder than that? Clarke said they're breeding them? I'm trying to figure out what this means. Did the worms come from inside the bunker? Is this some sort of effort to turn the bodies into fertilizer for the hydrofarm or are they just infected or is this a biological weapons program or....

Ropetuned

I'm very disappointed, I honestly thought it was cannibalism

BlueDog9

cannibalism can still be revealed.

Fuzzy Dunlop

I am completely unsurprised that it's not cannibalism. The whole fandom was like "Kara definitely wanted to bring the bodies back because they're cannibals, 100% confirmed." and it turns out she wanted to bring them back to get the worms. (Cannibalism during the Dark Year is still possible, though.)

Also I'm just gonna throw in my other big "I told you so" now. There was no secret part two to Raven's plan to let Murphy go. Shaw really did that. Surprise! He's got his own reasons for why he does things and he's still more or less on Diyoza's side.

BlueDog9

Poor Monty

Echo ratted Shaw out to Charmaine.

April7739

Echo. Great. Ratting out a character I actually like.

My TV has been cutting out tonight, but I don’t know why Raven would keep referring to Shaw as an ally if he’d double crossed her. Maybe I missed a line of dialogue while it was being explained due to my bad reception?

Fuzzy Dunlop

Just wishful thinking on Raven's part because there really obviously has never been a follow up to Shaw's double cross. He even got mad at her about how much trouble he got in for letting Murphy go. So that whole thing was just what it appeared to be on the surface.

Ropetuned

He was never on their side so how is Echo in the wrong?

Fuzzy Dunlop

Echo's just a badass who gets **** done. I don't know why Raven has been so soft-hearted this season. Was she always like this?

Ropetuned

Yes she does!

She has before but not this soft, I've noticed they've written some characters OOC so far

April7739

I’ll have to rewatch that scene. It still feels ambiguous to me and a lot of people on Twitter feel confused, too.

Okay, it was all part of the plan. So good on Echo for that one, I suppose. I was going to be upset if she ratted out Shaw for one simple reason: I like Shaw more than her.

BlueDog9

Slightly surprised Raven went along with it though

Fuzzy Dunlop

Basically Raven hopes that she can convince Shaw to help her because she thinks she can see that there's still good in him. But Shaw doesn't have the same belief in himself, and he admires Diyoza, so he's not willing to stick his neck out too far to help her.

Is anyone weirded out by Clarke's contribution to this season so far? She's just a big wet fart mom character now. What was that heavy-handed dumbness earlier when she told Bellamy to be diplomatic and then yelled at Indra's friends? And then she broke Monty. And her plan to keep Madi safe this whole season has been just a series of terrible lies. Honestly, Gaia has been way more helpful to Madi than Clarke has been.

And what now? Clarke's gonna try and kill Octavia? Okay.

April7739

I liked the episode overall. Here’s where I’d put it in my season ranking:

5x03
5x04
5x05

(gap)

5x01
5x07

(GIGANTIC gap)

5x06
5x02

I really liked Clarke, Bellamy, Madi, Kane, and Indra in it the most.

That ending . . . Wow.

Fuzzy Dunlop

I think they're trying to show us how they've all changed over 6 years. Pretty much all of Skaikru is softer now than they used to be because their experience was hard, but still peaceful and full of close relationships with good people. Octavia went in the total opposite direction. And Clarke became a mom who is willing to assassinate leaders to protect her baby.