The 100 - ★ The Head & The Heart ★ {Bellamy ღ Clarke} #132: We might need therapy, but that's okay. - Page 15

AnaMack · 11-15-2016, 01:42 PM

I'd love to hear you guys try to pronounce Rafael for a change

I'm doing great, Rose, just busy with college at the same time as addicted to Supergirl, which is problematic

what about you?

kenni727 · 11-15-2016, 03:12 PM

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So...all I can think when I look at this gifset is that Clarke is telling Bellamy he's the sun and he's saying that he's the moon. So which is he?

Also, pretty sure the sun would obliterate the moon were they ever to collide. *ducks for cover* Please don't hate me.

April7739 · 11-15-2016, 04:17 PM

Kenni, you are way analytical with these gifsets.

I like the quote there. Is it too long to be a future title? Because you know my love of future titles.

a little chaos · 11-15-2016, 04:56 PM

That would fit easy I think

destroyer of worlds · 11-15-2016, 05:20 PM

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This gifset Sarah !

Even if the quote make me think of another ship and that I have "Cosmic Love" by Florence and The Machine stuck in my head now (But I love that song so it's okay).

I hope, you're better soon Paula.

I guess that the lone survivor is one of these crazy person who never get sick and which would have survive a radiation apocalypse...

Ooh, I should check out that song then.

And seems legit

... some people do have freakishly strong immune systems. I'm not one of them.

I'm giggling at your sig, by the way. A plus.

Kenni

... Sometimes logic doesn't apply so much when it comes to GIFsets.

Rose!!

Yesssss, I'm behind by two episodes again (this week's and the last) but I've been loving them.

And thanks, Kate.

It's all good, I like Rafael too.

I was thinking that it'll make a great future title too, April.

We could also shorten it to Maybe we were never meant to collide; but wouldn't it be spectacular if we did?

I have a thread question (accompanied with a meta), I think ... but I have to articulate it properly first so I'll post it either tonight/tomorrow.

AnaMack · 11-15-2016, 05:33 PM

And then again, even just "wouldn't it be spectacular if we did?" would be accurate af. When the ship is this epic, you hardly need the context

And I don't think it was meant to be read this way, Kenni, but you have a really great and accurate pov on it. I do agree with you, it's such a Bellarke situation that Clarke would tell him he's the sun and he'd be so convinced he is the moon... Bellamy in a nutshell.

As for who he is, I believe Bellamy is the sun that his fears and guilt have eclipsed. Such a rich view on it, Kenni, you go, Kenni! Made the gifset even more meaningful than it was supposed to be, I love it

kenni727 · 11-15-2016, 05:37 PM

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Kenni, you are way analytical with these gifsets.

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Kenni

... Sometimes logic doesn't apply so much when it comes to GIFsets.

I have a thread question (accompanied with a meta), I think ... but I have to articulate it properly first so I'll post it either tonight/tomorrow.

Which is probably why I don't usually care for gifsets too much. I was watching a Hallmark Christmas Romance movie with my dad the other day. I was scoffing at the idea that the woman would give up a dream career she'd been working for since she was a kid to stay in this town with a guy she'd only known a couple weeks. If that. My dad teased me that I'm not much of a romantic. Maybe. Maybe not. I just didn't see why the guy couldn't move with her for her big job. It wasn't like he had anything all that great keeping him in the town. Why must the woman always sacrifice her dreams for the guy? It can never be the other way around?

I like romance. I guess I just have some different ideas regarding what is romantic.

And I look forward to your question Sarah!

ETA: Way to add meaning to my complaint over a logical inconsistency. It actually does make sense that Bellamy would insist he is something contrary to what Clarke says he is.

AnaMack · 11-15-2016, 06:17 PM

I agree 100% with you, Kenni! It really bothers me when a character has to give up on their dreams for another person or for a storyline. Heck, I was pissed when OTH's Keith had to come back to Tree Hill and leave his new job in Charlotte. When it's about romantic pairings, then, it's even worse. I really don't believe in leaving everything behind for someone. And why didn't the guy go with her, then????? I'd be so mad at this movie if I watched it!!!

I do too, have some different ideas on romance. And they've become less and less common sense over the years. I've had friends be mad at me for those, even.

ETA nowadays, there are two poles of me. I have one view on love regarding fiction and a very different one regarding real life love. The shipper in me is slightly more romantic and I do believe in meant to be in fiction, in love over all and anything. In real life, I just don't, and I'll be pissed if anyone prioritises the recent-ish bf/gf over long lasting friendships.

**Alexa** · 11-15-2016, 11:35 PM

I hated seth and summer.

STILES LYDIA ARE AMAZINGGGG.

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I'm #TeamRafael #SorryNotSorry

1 more day until new round!

Leelith · 11-16-2016, 06:18 AM

I'm team Raf too

Bellarkeeeeer

destroyer of worlds · 11-16-2016, 06:59 AM

It's all good, I have Rose on #TeamMichael.

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Why must the woman always sacrifice her dreams for the guy? It can never be the other way around?

I like romance. I guess I just have some different ideas regarding what is romantic.

ETA: Way to add meaning to my complaint over a logical inconsistency. It actually does make sense that Bellamy would insist he is something contrary to what Clarke says he is.

100% agree, the romance shown on TV/in movies is so contrived and not as progressive as it should be. I honestly would not give up my dream job for anyone, especially someone I've only known for a short while.

I love romance too but I think I've just gotten more cynical (realistic??) as I grow older.

That's a good point that you made, Ana. I also agree with you and Kenni that it makes sense that Bellamy would have a different idea of himself compared to Clarke's POV when it comes to him.

Meta time ... the other meta and question will be tomorrow since I'm still trying to write it all out

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I love this scene so much. Especially the line of Clarke saying “what if it was too dangerous and I sent him in there anyway?” People think Clarke realized Bellamy was in fact not worth the risk in 3x02 but she was feeling this way so much sooner. They could have written L to say literally anything but instead they have her say “You care about him.” This was very deliberate. We know L had romantic feelings for Clarke by then, and this comment she makes..it’s curiosity. You could even call it jealousy.

Look at the way Clarke responds. It takes her a moment to formulate the response. There’s nothing automatic about it, she’s gotta think first. She turns to face L when she says “I care about all of them” as if to say ‘see I’m looking you in the eye as I say this, it’s true, believe me’

L does the same as she turns to face Clarke, looks her in the eye, and says matter of factly “Yet you worry about him more.” It’s not a question. It’s a flat out statement.

And Clarke doesn’t deny it. She gets angered actually. She tries to cover it up by saying “We need him” but soon after her guilt becomes apparent. That if something happens to him, she’ll have no one to blame but herself for telling him he was worth the risk. And she’s flat out pissed. She sent Bellamy in there because if love was weakness then she couldn’t let herself feel it. Not again, not after hearing Finn’s last breath in her ear. She’s pissed because it was L’s “Love is Weakness” motto that encouraged a still grieving and heartbroken Clarke to suddenly change her mind and tell Bellamy to go.

L tries telling her this is what it means to be a leader, “we must look into the eyes of out warriors and tell them go die for me” and Clarke responds with “if only it were that easy.” Because Bellamy’s not her warrior. He’s not her “knight”. That’s the last thing she wants him to be.

He became much more then that. And that’s proven just 4 episodes later in the 3x02 scene where we see her beg for his life. He did what he was suppose to do right? He fought for her like a good warrior would, he tried to protect her and save her like a good knight would. But when it came down to it, she’d give herself up before feeling that kind of worry again.

And suddenly the finale scene, Clarke’s face upon hearing “Start with Bellamy Blake” makes even more sense. All this time she tried so hard not to let herself be weak, she tried so hard to push down, and bury, and build a wall around these feelings so that she’d never have to worry or see something happen to him because of her. And now ALIE knows her #1 weakness is him and she doesn’t even have the words to express the fear we saw in her eyes.

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And this is precisely why I feel that the Bellarke Season 2 moments are so underrated sometimes. Reading between the lines ... it's subtle but obvious that TPTB have deliberately been planting crucial moments like that to show just how much Clarke cares about Bellamy even though she tries to play it down. Just like 3X02 was the way the writers decided to show the lengths to which Bellamy would go for Clarke.

"Love is weakness" has been a recurring theme when it comes to them and I wonder if that will carry on in Season 4.

Ellfoy · 11-16-2016, 08:39 AM

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And this is precisely why I feel that the Bellarke Season 2 moments are so underrated sometimes. Reading between the lines ... it's subtle but obvious that TPTB have deliberately been planting crucial moments like that to show just how much Clarke cares about Bellamy even though she tries to play it down. Just like 3X02 was the way the writers decided to show the lengths to which Bellamy would go for Clarke.

"Love is weakness" has been a recurring theme when it comes to them and I wonder if that will carry on in Season 4.

I totally agree with this meta and with you. Season 2 Bellarke is all about reading between the lines.
There is also a few "reading between the lines moments" that I want to talk about. Rememeber the Tondc episode (2x13) and the famous Kabby conversation about "Do we even deserve to survive ?" Abby reveals to Kane that Clarke knew about the bombs and wonder how she could do that. Kane answer that it is their fault, because Clarke is following the example and harsh choices that the leaders on Arkadia set:
K : "She made a choice like executing people for stealing medicine and food. Like sucking the air from the lungs of 300 parents so they could save their children."
And Abby add : "Like floating the man you love...To save your people."
This takes place just at the moment when Bellamy is on a suicide mission in Mount Weather to rescue the deliquents after Clarke sent him too. "Like floating the man you love...To save your people.". I wonder if Abby is directly drawing the parallel between what she did and what Clarke did there. I think there is a conversation between Clarke and Abby when Clarke realises that her mother and she "are the same" but I can't find it.
Moreover, the "Like sucking the air from the lungs of 300 parents so they could save their children." is I think a direct parallel/forshadowing of Clarke and Bellamy choosing to radioactivate Mount Weather and so "sucking the air" of a little over 200 people "so they could save their children" (Bellamy and Clarke's in that case because let's admit it the delinquents are like Clarke and Bellamy's kids).

Another thing I find interesting in seson 2 is that when Clarke try to justify her decision regarding the bombs, she immediately answers "I did it to save/protect Bellamy" first to Abby and then Octavia. The first time, Abby cut her in her reasoning "I did it to protect Bellamy... so he could save our people", but after Clarke just stop at "I did it to save Bellamy". It's like an unwilling part of her admits that condamning a lots of people to die to save other people is not right but doing it to save Bellamy make it more acceptable (which actually doesn't but there is no rational reasoning here, Clarke is in shock).

Damocles · 11-16-2016, 08:57 AM

Kenni I love everything you say

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And Abby add : "Like floating the man you love...To save your people."
This takes place just at the moment when Bellamy is on a suicide mission in Mount Weather to rescue the deliquents after Clarke sent him too. "Like floating the man you love...To save your people."

Why did I never think of this before

Sometimes I feel like this show just scoops Bellarke into our mouths like we are those creepy eager baby birds:

AnaMack · 11-16-2016, 09:53 AM

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We know L had romantic feelings for Clarke by then, and this comment she makes..it’s curiosity. You could even call it jealousy.

I have always loved this "you worry about him more" scene and this is so true. This and what was said about how Lexa could have worded anything at that moment, but TPTB chose to have her pointing out that Clarke had stronger feelings for Bellamy than she had about anyone else. Lexa, the one who will kiss her the same episode. This wasn't random at all and it's a very underrated addition on the bellarke development.

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I totally agree with this meta and with you. Season 2 Bellarke is all about reading between the lines.

For sure. I mean, after watching 2x09 for the first time I was like "how are people still saying Clarke doesn't love him?? She just flat out admitted to it!!!"

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And Abby add : "Like floating the man you love...To save your people."
This takes place just at the moment when Bellamy is on a suicide mission in Mount Weather to rescue the deliquents after Clarke sent him too. "Like floating the man you love...To save your people.".

I had never noticed this one, good job! The ship that keeps on giving... I love it

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300 parents so they could save their children." is I think a direct parallel/forshadowing of Clarke and Bellamy choosing to radioactivate Mount Weather and so "sucking the air" of a little over 200 people "so they could save their children" (Bellamy and Clarke's in that case because let's admit it the delinquents are like Clarke and Bellamy's kids).

It could make sense. I do think this was solely about TonDC, though.

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Another thing I find interesting in seson 2 is that when Clarke try to justify her decision regarding the bombs, she immediately answers "I did it to save/protect Bellamy" first to Abby and then Octavia. The first time, Abby cut her in her reasoning "I did it to protect Bellamy... so he could save our people", but after Clarke just stop at "I did it to save Bellamy". It's like an unwilling part of her admits that condamning a lots of people to die to save other people is not right but doing it to save Bellamy make it more acceptable (which actually doesn't but there is no rational reasoning here, Clarke is in shock).

At first I was very skeptic about this one, but, if you think about it, she could have just said "I did it to protect the plan"/"I did it to save our people". But no, her first reasoning was saving Bellamy, and I don't doubt that's what ultimately made her agree with Lexa's escaping plan. Her immediate purpose was to save him and she can barely hide it. Again, that's why I think we never got to see them starting with Bellamy Blake. She just wouldn't resist all that long.

Ellfoy · 11-16-2016, 12:46 PM

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It could make sense. I do think this was solely about TonDC, though.

Yes I think you right, Kane relate it to Clarke's decision to let Tondc be bombed but I thought of Mount Weather as well because of the "sucking the air from the lungs" = contamining the air with radiation.

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At first I was very skeptic about this one, but, if you think about it, she could have just said "I did it to protect the plan"/"I did it to save our people". But no, her first reasoning was saving Bellamy, and I don't doubt that's what ultimately made her agree with Lexa's escaping plan. Her immediate purpose was to save him and she can barely hide it. Again, that's why I think we never got to see them starting with Bellamy Blake. She just wouldn't resist all that long.

Yes I do thing Lexa used cleverly the Bellamy argument especially after the "You care about him scene" which was really revelling.

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Why did I never think of this before

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I had never noticed this one, good job! The ship that keeps on giving... I love it

I noticed it right away to be honest, that's how much Bellarke oriented I am !

I was actually surprised that no one was talking about it...


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