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Hawthorn 04-20-2014 07:51 PM

I didn't see the bunny ears coming! :lol:
All the photos are utterly adorable, thanks for posting!
It looks like she had a fun, lovely time with her friend. :love:

IloveJules! 04-23-2014 06:47 AM

Bob posted another sweet picture with Liz on Monday.

http://i.imgur.com/9bO3Pxr.jpg

Source



I'm also posting more pictures from WonderCon because... Liz, cuteness and that dress! :love:

http://i.imgur.com/0iGQ1t1.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/mOXxkvb.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/BmT0nSl.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/LESBDxH.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/gqm3OG4.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/43ABGUG.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/hL0oDJg.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/bBSukMn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qml1Yf8.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/LtAf3NY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/84lQX3S.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OrzxJ0I.jpg

Source - 1.2.3

Hawthorn 04-24-2014 10:37 AM

Thanks for all the additional photos. :love:

Has Liz lost some weight, or it's the jaw-dropping-hot black dress giving me that impression for some reason?

stuckin1977 04-24-2014 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawthorn (Post 75663556)
Thanks for all the additional photos. :love:

Has Liz lost some weight, or it's the jaw-dropping-hot black dress giving me that impression for some reason?

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Originally Posted by Hawthorn (Post 75663556)
Thanks for all the additional photos. :love:

Has Liz lost some weight, or it's the jaw-dropping-hot black dress giving me that impression for some reason?

Liz has lost a lot of weight since she started her yoga & changed her eating habits which she mentioned in an interview awhile back. There was a fan shot a few months ago where I commented that she looks to have lost too much altho I think she looks good & looks healthy.

Like rachel, I'm not very popular - at least not on this board. So I'll continue that by saying something that probably won't go over well here. I've listened to her latest interviews & she talks again about herself as a mom. Frankly, she is giving herself way too much credit in that department. Chris' girlfriend is raising CJ. It is clear from Liz revolution schedule & location that the custody is less than 50/50 for her. Now when she's on hiatus, she chose to spend the Easter holiday with bob merrick then flew to Dallas (someone tweeted they saw her yesterday). Meanwhile today Chris' girlfriend posted something about helping CJ with his science project for the fair tonight. This is not the first school project she has helped him with either. Where is Liz? She's letting someone else raise her son.

CJ has spent every holiday since we learned about the divorce with Chris & his girlfriend. I thought once Liz went in hiatus she would get more custody time with him but that doesn't seem to be the case. I realize this is none of my business & there may be more going in than I see. But Chris girlfriend does a lot if posting so you can get an idea Of when CJ is with them & when he's not. I think he did spend his spring break with Liz. But truly it looks like she has very little involvement in what he's doing in school or much of the rest of his life so I now get a little skeptical when I hear her talking about being a mom.

Sorry to be so critical of her. This is one of the only things about her that bugs me. :)

Hamburgo1001 04-24-2014 03:23 PM

Thanks for all the pictures. :flowers: Liz looked phenomenal at Wondercon. I am not always enamored with her dress choices, but this one worked like a charm. :sigh:

I have no problems with your comment stuckin1977. I love Liz, but to be honest, I have been taking her statements about CJ with a grain of salt for a while now.

IloveJules! 04-25-2014 02:32 AM

You're welcome. ;)


I didn't notice that Liz lost weight, but then I'm really bad at noticing those things. Unless it's a very visible weight loss. I remember she said that six months ago she was in a cupcake phase and now she's in a strong phase.



stuckin1977 (don't know your name), I don't mind your comments too. It doesn't matter if I agree or not with them.

I like that on this board we are free to say whatever we want to say. There isn't much censure. Obviously, we try to be respectful towards Liz, her family, friends, the actors that work or have worked with her and we try to be respectful towards each other too. This place is probably the only place where we can discuss everything about Liz in the way that we do. Trying to be respecful but saying the things we really want to say about any subject.

I try to avoid discussing about her private life though. It makes me a little bit uncomfortable, especially because I know almost nothing about it.

All I know is that if Liz says she spends most of her free time with her son, then I believe it. I can't see why she would lie about it.

I'm not from US, so I don't know how the child custody system works over there. I assume Liz and Chris were given a joint legal and physical custody of CJ. But it seems that the physical custody is not 50/50. Probably because of her work schedule. Living in another state during the majority of the year and working long hours a day from monday to friday. Logically CJ's going to spend more time with his father. Whether she is working or not. Maybe Liz has no choice, but follow the law (visitation schedule and all that jazz).

I won't be surprised if she sacrificed the opportunity to spend more time with her son based on his best interests. To make sure he lives in the same place, frequents the same school and continues to be with the same friends.

I have a hard time to believe Liz would deny spending time with her son during her free time.

stuckin1977 04-25-2014 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by IloveJules! (Post 75675313)

stuckin1977 (don't know your name), I don't mind your comments too. It doesn't matter if I agree or not with them.

I like that on this board we are free to say whatever we want to say. There isn't much censure. Obviously, we try to be respectful towards Liz, her family, friends, the actors that work or have worked with her and we try to be respectful towards each other too. This place is probably the only place where we can discuss everything about Liz in the way that we do. Trying to be respecful but saying the things we really want to say about any subject.

I try to avoid discussing about her private life though. It makes me a little bit uncomfortable, especially because I know almost nothing about it.

All I know is that if Liz says she spends most of her free time with her son, then I believe it. I can't see why she would lie about it.

I'm not from US, so I don't know how the child custody system works over there. I assume Liz and Chris were given a joint legal and physical custody of CJ. But it seems that the physical custody is not 50/50. Probably because of her work schedule. Living in another state during the majority of the year and working long hours a day from monday to friday. Logically CJ's going to spend more time with his father. Whether she is working or not. Maybe Liz has no choice, but follow the law (visitation schedule and all that jazz).

I won't be surprised if she sacrificed the opportunity to spend more time with her son based on his best interests. To make sure he lives in the same place, frequents the same school and continues to be with the same friends.

All of the above I agree with & respect your perspective. In fact, I highly respect all of your views posted on various threads of this board. :)
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I have a hard time to believe Liz would deny spending time with her son during her free time.
This I disagree with because there is irrefutable evidence - at least for this past week. Fact: revolution is no longer filming. Fact: last weekend, Liz was at Wondercon & with bob merrick. He posted photos. Fact: Chris girlfriend posted pic of CJ on Easter Day dressed up to visit "Amma" (I think this is Chris mom) on the same day bob was posting selfies of him & Liz. Fact: on Tuesday someone posted pic on twitter of Liz at airport in LA. Fact: on Wednesday, someone posted on twitter that Liz was at their "cousins work. " no details other than that but I checked the profile of the poster & they were from Dallas. So after spending at least 5 days in LA away from CJ she then flew to Dallas. Fact: CJ was not with her in Dallas because on Thursday Chris girlfriend posted a pic of a science project she was helping him with for a fair to be held that night.

So despite being on hiatus, she is still spending quite a bit of time away from him. I thought once she was done filming she might be spending more time with him. Who knows how the custody agreement was written but I would have thought it was written to allow her more time with him when she's not working but that doesn't seen to be th case. Maybe Chris got full custody & she only gets to see him on weekends with maybe an occasional extended week.

I'm commenting on this because she makes a point about talking about being a mom in all her interviews yet she has essentially abdicated her role for the most part - even if there is some legal binding reason. In fact if there is a legal binding reason that says a lot about the scenario that could have led to such conditions to allow Chris to be the primary parent. Liz made an interesting analogy in one of her Wondercon interviews which I intend to post her along with some armchair psychoanalysis. :)) but for now I have to go to work.

Balian 04-25-2014 07:14 AM

People's lives are not limited to what is posted about it on the Internet. Chris' girlfriend likes to post pictures on social websites, while Liz does not. There were not more private pictures of them before the divorce, yet she was not suspected to be a bad mother then.
Being a good mother means a lot more than helping with science projects and sewing Halloween costumes.
Liz's free time is not limited to this past week.

stuckin1977 04-25-2014 09:20 AM

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Liz:
I think Rachel offers her support, but it’s like the dead-beat dad who’s like, ‘Now I want to be in your life.’ ‘Well, I’m 50 so I don’t know what to tell you.’
This quote from Liz from one of her wondercon interviews about the deadbeat dad caught my attention. Yeah, I think about a lot of things that are none of my business. :) I wonder if, on some level, this is a reference to her own biological father, either said consciously with intent or said unconsciously from the subconscious without realizing the inference?

Let's take it a step farther. Recently, I made some comments about her, IMO, appearing to abdicate her role as a full time mom. What if, on some level, she has some feelings of guilt about her reduced role in CJ's life & this is reflected unconsciously in the comment about deadbeat parents?

Just some ponderings. Sorry this is probably not appropriate thread for this comment but there aren't really any others either & this ties in with existing comments on this thread.

severalmiles 04-25-2014 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by stuckin1977 (Post 75667379)
Like rachel, I'm not very popular - at least not on this board. So I'll continue that by saying something that probably won't go over well here.

I am fine with you having your own opinion, the point of this board is to discuss about Liz and her work, everyone has been very civil in this discussion so there isn't anything wrong with having differing opinions.

I do agree that it seems like Liz hasn't been spending much time with CJ lately, but I am careful not to judge because we don't know the full story.

Like some people have already said, it seems like Chris has main custody because his work is more stable and he doesn't have to travel as much as Liz, which would make sense as CJ is of school age, and would probably benefit from staying at the same school. I see no difference in Liz's situation, to fathers that travel for work while the mother stays home. Even before the divorce it seemed like it was Chris who was the primary caregiver, and that is no insult to Liz, because she probably had the busier work schedule.

As for the Easter situation, maybe they have agreed to alternate holidays? I know many families with divorced parents, who will take turns, year after year. So for example, maybe Liz will have CJ for thanksgiving or Christmas, and Easter next year.

stuckin1977 04-26-2014 02:58 AM

I don't doubt that their custody agreement has some holiday arrangement that alternates. Most of the ones I have personally seen alternated each holiday where Christmas is with dad & thanksgiving is with mom this year then flip next year. In this case though CJ has been with Chris every single holiday since the divorce. Now that divorce is close to one year anniversary, perhaps the next round goes to Liz.

Fair point that Liz not participating in social media may distort her role compared to Chris girlfriend. But take social media out of the picture. That still leaves the fact that Liz spent most of July-early April in TX while 7 of those months were overlapping with CJ school in WA. There's no way she came close to 50% custody. To get close to that, she would have to spend close to 100% of her hiatus time with him & last week, while not a complete picture, shows she's not doing that either. If this were my situation, I would have negotiated the custody agreement so that I got primary custody during hiatus months.

With skype, distance becomes a little less critical but CJ is missing out on the physical presence of his mom & her participation in his life. Some may feel it is not a big deal that the girlfriend is the one making Halloween costumes, building toy boats, raising chickens, helping make a costume for school, helping with a science project, taking him to movies, taking him to water parks,etc but these are moments & memories in his formative years which help define the relationship with the parent & Liz has chosen her career over being the primary mom role in her son's life. In fairness, without her income, CJ (or Chris & his girlfriend for that matter) would not be living in the house he is or going to a private school because I doubt Chris income would be sufficient to support it. A few years ago, Liz made a point to talk about how active her own parents were in supporting their kids activities despite their work demands as lawyers. She's not doing the same for CJ & it seems more pronounced since the divorce.

I don't doubt her love for CJ or that they may have some quality time together but she is a bit of a hypocrite to talk in her interviews about the energy it takes to be a mom when most of her energy is directed towards her career.

Btw, I don't feel I'm judging her. I'm just pointing out the inconsistency between her interview comments & the reality of how diminished her role in CJs life actually appears to be. I will say I never thought she would be willing, as a mother, to put her career over time with her son. For me, it is different than a traveling father being away when it's the person who carried you in their womb choosing to do so.

ETA: just realized the comment about this purpose of this board board is to discuss Liz work. Since I tend to comment only on her personal life & no longer watch Revolution, I will stop posting here.

stuckin1977 04-26-2014 03:54 AM

To clarify the ETA note I put in my last post, I am not upset or bitter about not posting here anymore. When I first started posting on this board, I did so because I was enamored with Liz & Lost. I was at a stage where I could indulge my own frivolity & could offer some humor & appreciation. But, I also take the bad with the good & Liz's actions in her personal life leading to the divorce & diminished mother role has been more interesting to me than her current career choices and, from my perspective, have revealed a dichotomous aspect of her nature because it is at odds with all the reports of what a sweet, genuine person she is. This fascinates me & I am willing to look at her with a critical eye to try to understand it. But, I realize this is not an area or approach that the board wishes to engage so I will respect that and move on.

Best wishes.

Hawthorn 04-26-2014 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by stuckin1977 (Post 75693101)
To clarify the ETA note I put in my last post, I am not upset or bitter about not posting here anymore. When I first started posting on this board, I did so because I was enamored with Liz & Lost. I was at a stage where I could indulge my own frivolity & could offer some humor & appreciation. But, I also take the bad with the good & Liz's actions in her personal life leading to the divorce & diminished mother role has been more interesting to me than her current career choices and, from my perspective, have revealed a dichotomous aspect of her nature because it is at odds with all the reports of what a sweet, genuine person she is. This fascinates me & I am willing to look at her with a critical eye to try to understand it. But, I realize this is not an area or approach that the board wishes to engage so I will respect that and move on.

Best wishes.

No please, don't leave! If you still like/want to post here, that's it - I'm not pressuring you.
But as you can see from everyone's responses above, no one is questioning whether or not you should post only about certain topics concerning Elizabeth, and the board is a general one and not just focused on her professional projects - we did/do have a thread for Liz and Chris' relationship (the thread's title/purpose has been tweaked a bit since the divorce because it was originally an Appreciation Thread, but still), we've talked about her friendships, and CJ, many times since the early days of the forum, and those are examples of how we have dived into personal/family discussions and will keep doing so, whenever there is interest or something to chat about.

I've made no mystery of the fact that I wasn't very interested in V after the first part of its first season, and I'm not that invested in Revolution, either (I can't even say I watch for Rachel, because I have a lot of ups and downs with her character/storylines) - we all have our reasons for reading and posting here, going from attachment to Liz as a person or artist, to Lost nostalgia, to being a fan of Revolution, to the hope to hear about some new gigs, to being curious/interested about her personal world. Each reason is just as valid as the other to be here, this is a very free (even off topic-indulgent :D ) board and no one should feel more or less legitimated than another in their participation to the discussion.

I have commented very little about all the news or insight we got about Liz's personal life since learning of the divorce with Chris, but I hope my silence wasn't seen as an attempt to shut down/discourage those who did talk about it, because I swear it had/has nothing to do with that.

So really, if you still care for anything about Elizabeth and wants to post about it, always feel free to, even if you aren't keeping up with her work.


When/if Revolution gets cancelled, Liz is probably taking a break from acting, at least from the daily work requirement a tv show asks of actors. Perhaps she is hanging on for the next year/couple of years because she's thinking of the free time and opportunity coming up, then?

Hamburgo1001 04-26-2014 10:26 AM

I concur with Fran. I hope you don't leave the board stuckin1977. Maybe it's because I was part of a big Whitney Houston online community for many years where we talked about the good and also the very very bad things in Whitney's life, but to me, boards like these are open for all kinds of discussions: Projects, roles, interviews, personal life, even criticism as long as it's done in a constructive and respectful manner. Luckily, I think we have handled the more critical discussions very well so far thanks to the great posters on this board and I see no reason why that shouldn't continue.

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All I know is that if Liz says she spends most of her free time with her son, then I believe it. I can't see why she would lie about it.
I'm going to play devil's advocate for a second. Interviews can be a tricky thing because they are essentially used to sell you something. They are either done for self-promotion or to plug a project (e.g. movies, tv shows, books, etc.). IMO, no celebrity is 100% truthful all the time. Sometimes, they will embellish on the truth or outright lie to paint themselves in a better light. That's just how the entertainment industry works.

BTW, I'm not saying that Elizabeth is a bad mother or something like that. I just don't think she's as involved as she claims to be for reasons unbeknownst to us.

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In this case though CJ has been with Chris every single holiday since the divorce.
I think Liz may have spent MLK day or Washington's Birthday with CJ. I don't know which of the two it was anymore, but she was seen flying to Seattle for one of those holidays and I don't think she would bother to make the trip if she wasn't going to spend some time with her son. But you're right that the majority of holiday time has went to Chris so far.

Balian 04-27-2014 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by stuckin1977
For me, it is different than a traveling father being away when it's the person who carried you in their womb choosing to do so.

What is the difference? A father having a career and a mother staying at home is natural, but the reverse is not? Because the mother carries babies in her womb? Would be even be a discussion with the genders reversed in this story?

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Originally Posted by stuckin1977
Let's take it a step farther.

"There is a point where we needed to stop and we have clearly passed it. But let's keep going and see what happens!"

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Originally Posted by Hamburgo1001
I just don't think she's as involved as she claims to be for reasons unbeknownst to us.

But what does she actually claims? I don't think she ever gave us a schedule of her time with CJ. So what do you actually means?
When we don't know everything about her private life, why assuming she is lying about it from the get-go?


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