TVD Episode Discussion - 6x20: I'd Leave My Happy Home For You - Airs April 30th
 

I was just about to start this thread (my computer issues are finally over! :yay:) but you beat me to it. ;) Thanks. :flowers:

:oops: Sorry, I wasn't sure so I took the chance :D YW, bb, next one is yours again :kiss:

Happy for your pc :yay: :woot: Will you watch alive tonight? :flowers:

EDIT: Couldn't find the episode's preview, was it realesed? :look: :confused:

Don't apologize, you just saved me 5 minutes. :lol:

I think I will watch tonight.

I liked this episode. So glad they didn't drag out elena taking the cure or not. Although i wish they would have made her a little more wild while being a vampire because majority of the time i forgot she was a vampire. So what do yall think Damon will end up doing? I'm torn between him taking cure or not

:hug: Hope you enjoyed the episode :kiss:

I liked it, mostly because of Delena of course :D :love: But I need a re.watch to make some thing more clear, I'll post a comment sooner :nod: :D

I'm sure he won't take the cure, he'll be a vampire for season7 :D I have some scenarios in mind for the reasons, but I think it's safe to say he won't take it... for now ;)

I've always been a fan of delena! Even if you watch back from the very beginning season 1 damon has always been there for elena more than stefan even when she was with stefan. I am so curious to see what happens to delena now

I love Stefan, but I hate his family so much. I have no words for Damon.. what a useless excuse of an older brother. And Lily.. don't even get me started on her.

I enjoyed the episode more than the previous ones, but still I found some traits and SLs and talks very repetitive, like they want to fill 40 minutes at any costs :shrug:


THE BAD:

Matt: seriously, what is his problem?!? :rant: Selfish, weepy, hypocrite, he has become the worst friend ever, does he really think self-control is enough for Tyler to avoid to kill someone on his job and so the werewolf curse?!? Why can’t he just leave him alone to live his life without choosing a job that could lead him to ruin himself again?!? And wow, we’re a bit hypocrite, aren’t we Matty-Blue-Blue? Because I recall you being a murder once or twice too (lost the count for Rick :lol:), but hey!, I guess weep about other people’s faults is more funny, right? :rolleyes: Why doesn’t he take his own good advice and leave for good, none would blame him for doing it :pout:


Mystic Falls gang: how about they get a life already instead of judging things they have no idea what they’re talking about :rolleyes: Seriously, beside Stefan, I miss the point why Damon should give a damn about other people’s opinions on HIS life: Rick is creating a family of his own, Enzo conveniently forgot the times when Damon saved him too and was sefless not to mention how productive is being a vampire in his case, Bonnie… well, let’s avoid this, such a good friend who thinks tearing Delena apart will make them both happy :lol: I really miss the point why Damon should let himself be influenced by any of them, but oh well, lack of creativity as usual like the gang not trying to reason with Elena about the dangers to become human again :facepalm:


Bonnie: judging people, making threats, giving migraines and getting hurt. That’s basically her utility in episodes at this point. As always “all big speeches and no big actions”, 6 years and the best thing she can do is to give a migraine to a dangerous vampire like Lily, wow, what a smart move! :facepalm:


Bamon: so after not even 1-2 hours since the last time they hurt, insulted and almost killed each other, without any reconciliation and explonations' talk, I’m supposed to believe Damon had nothing better to do than call Bonnie to make a chat?!? :lmao: Yeah, sure... So sensible of you Bonnie to have offer a shoulder for matters you don’t understand or care and you showed it pretty well, but hey!, she suddenly has this big acknowledge of Damon :rolleyes:


Enzo: he has become GG basically, he has nothing better to do than spilling everyone’s secrets because he doesn't have a life of his own to live :rolleyes: And I think giving the moral speech to the brothers about their mother is ridiculous, he is in no place to defend her while she’s being an awful person to her sons :nono:


Stefan(&Defan): wow, aren’t we the little hypocrite one, are we Stefan? :rolleyes: Because I don’t recall you sharing with Damon your intentions to become human back in season4 or with Elena back in season2, leaving your brother alone as a vampire. But hey!, I guess that was not a problem, problem is when little Stefan is the one left alone behind, eh? It’s easier to have sympathy for a mother who makes excuses for your own nature and situation then trying to understand your brother’s feelings and wishing him happiness, guess he should be by your side for eternity while you enjoy your life with the woman you love, aka Caroline. Damon should have told him immediately, but Stefan is an hypocrite selfish person if he thinks Damon should give up on Elena just for him :nono: I won’t even start with the “keep secrets” stuff, bc I lost count which character has more secrets right now, seriously Stefan is the last person who can complain about that.


Stefan/Lily: boring :yawn: The “Oh poor us with the ripper gene, it’s not our fault” weepy fair, this “I want my family back” stuff is repetitive and boring as hell, and congrats to Stefan to have pissed mommy off too, all big speeches are nothing if you show otherwise with actions, the gang can’t complain she’ll unleash hell on them!



THE GOOD:

Opening scene: ahahahah that was funny :lmao: For Rick I had the fear he had been kidnapped for real, but when the officer visited Jo in the hospital, I knew it was for the bachelorette party, Jo’s reaction was priceless :lol:


Tyler: he has more brain and logic than his friend, I’m glad he at least acknowledged being a cop is the worst choice ever, I was getting worried :lol:


Kai: I've missed his psycho/seriar killer/evil smile so much, IMA :lol: And now he's back on dark!Modality all over again, was about time! :cool:


Jo/Jolaric: no offense Jo, bu you needed a vampire threatening you to discover you're having twins?!? What about an ultrasound, shouldn't be so unkwon by you considering you're a doctor! :lmao: Ok, beside this I adored Jo in this episode, made me laugh a lot with her pregnancy's longings issues :love: Perfect speech about love, hope she and Rick will be ok and safe, it was a big step for him, but he took it without a 2nd thought, she and the twins are what matters the most :bawl:


Lily Salvatore: she’s an awful mother and clearly she doesn’t give a damn about her sons in the end, whatever reasons she has… but damn, Annie is superb, so I can’t help but loving to despising Mama Salvatore :lol: Repetitive in her “I want my family back” stuff, but at least some actions with her and now they’re going to pay the consequences of imprisoning her, finally some dark stuff again :woot:


Defan last scene: brothers vs mother saved the day, love it :love:


Damon: still has to learn not to keep secrets, he should have announce his decision to Stefan immediately! :headslap: But I’m glad he’s not making himself being fooled by his mother as Enzo or even Stefan: fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.


Elena: I hate the idea of her being human again… but her happiness melt the heart, so if she’s happy, I’m happy :blush: Love to have watched an episode where she’s central again, it was about time, love everything she said and did, how she organized the party for Jo (otherwise none would have had :bawl:), how she kicked Lily’s ass and fooled no matter if she had become a human again (my warrior princess :cool:), her mature talks with Damon...


Delena: my babies were just perfect in this episode, I liked that they talked about the cure/humanity matters and shared fears and opinions on it, very mature of their relationship. Porch scene was just beautiful, the memories one even more, very well-played and the kiss… :thud: :love: Last scene hurt a lot, but it was necessary, I’m glad they’re making everything clear, no secrets between them, but selfless gestures :love:

Very much agreed :clap:

Ah, yes. The inevitable poor Damon and big mean selfish Stefan, when this time it was Damon who was being completely selfish. Not only did Damon have no intention of telling Stefan he was going to be human, but he also adamantly admitted that he just don't care what his little brother thinks about it. What a great big brother :sick: And it's so funny how something that happened in season 4 is being brought up now and it's not even in the right context. Did Stefan say that he wanted to be human with Elena? Yes, but not once was there a real opportunity for Stefan to be human. How do you know that if Stefan had the opportunity to become human right in front of him, that he wouldn't have told Damon? You don't. It is just another way for Damon fans to shift the blame onto Stefan again. Stefan is not a hypocrite. And the only selfish one here is Damon.

Blaming Stefan for mommy being an evil bitch :lmao: I wouldn't expect anything else. When Stefan isn't waxing lyrical over DE or sucking up Damon's butt, then how dare he even exist :rolleyes:

I guess my English must be very very very bad or you didn't even try to read all my comment at all and only focus on the part where I don't kiss your fav's ass, because I never said "poor Damon", quite the contrary, I said he had to tell his brother immediately instead of keeping it a secret and that was bad :rolleyes: :facepalm: Damon made a mistake, Stefan is right to be angry for that, TO ME he's not right in pretending to know what his brother wants for real (when in these last 6 years he proved the contrary many times :rolleyes:) or pretending he never thought to do the same leaving Damon in shadow :rolleyes: Sorry, I'm not naive enough to buy your "Stefan always does the right thing toward his brother" stuff :P

So Damon's decision about HIS own life has to depend on Stefan's opinions entirely?!? He has to be miserable because his brother can't accept that one day Damon may want to start a family/life without him in it?!? Seriously?!? :goof: :facepalm: Damon heard Stefan's opinion, good, now he can move on, what's implyed that Stefan will do in the promo is disgusting :sick: If Stefan had decided to be with Caroline alone as a vampire or to take the cure and be human with her, Damon would have accepted it and wished him all the happiness, that's the difference between them, Stefan needs to learn to live a life of his own, like anyone in this world :rolleyes:

Admitting that he wanted to be human with Elena means that if he had the chance he would have taken it, in season4 he never mentioned it to Damon, he wanted it for himself, so it didn't happen to me, easy like that, bc if I have to pretend that everything happened off-screen for the sake of Stefan's good imagine, then I'll never end this :rolleyes: :facepalm:

Spare me the "Damon's fans **** on Stefan" like it doesn't happen the opposite too, if Damon isn't only focused on Stefan and does what it's good for him he's committing a capital crime too for you :rolleyes: Stefan is an hypocrite to me, it's MY opinion, not general truth, you can accept it like I accept yours to defend Stefan: he's blaming Damon for keeping secrets and not having sharing his intentions, coming from Stefan is huge, like he always does it, so yeah, it's hypocrite to me, nothing surprising TBH :rolleyes: :facepalm:

I have no idea what you're talking about :confused: I'm not blaming Stefan for Lily's character, why should I? :look: Lily is who she is on her own :shrug: I was pointing out that, LIKE THANKS TO DAMON IN 6X19, now Lily is even more pissed thanks after what had happened with Stefan, which is the ugly truth: he tried to convinced her with promises and then vervained her, imprisoned her and now she's pissed, easy like that :goof: I don't recall the Mystic Grill's barman to have done it, it's up to BOTH the brothers who played with fire and they're going to end up burnt more than likely :lol: :lmao:

^In the original 4x13 speech because the one in the episode was cut Damon said that he didn't want to be human and that was not him but Stefan. Not sure how he knew this but Damon was fully aware Stefan becoming human was an option. I still feel the same as last week and don't believe that Damon really deep down wants to be human. And Stefan knows this which is probably why he avoided telling him since he'd talk sense into him. Two more episodes to go so we'll see what happens.

I think while Damon should have told Stefan about him going to take the cure with Elena, I don't think he was being selfish in doing so. I think he didn't want his decision influences by other people's opinion. At the end of the day, he wants to be with Elena because he loves her and can't imagine his life without her. When people are in relationships, they make sacrifices for each other and while this is a BIG sacrifice Damon is going to make, he is willing to make it for her. However, he knows other people aren't going to approve of his decision. They know how happy being a vampire makes Damon and he doesn't want to hear that opinion because he has made up his mind. Stefan is probably the only person that could really change Damon's mind on this. Also, I don't think Damon wants Stefan to have a "say" in what Damon is about to do because Stefan will want more than a say, he'll want to completely change Damon's mind. Damon is doing what he feels is right for his relationship and future with Elena. When he decided to be human and die, his choice was taken away by Stefan. He wanted this choice to be his own whether he regrets it later or not.

Now, I don't know what's gonna fully happen next week because promos can be deceiving but based on just the promo, I think it's unfair for Stefan to assume how Damon and Elena's life is going to be if they're both human and put all these bad thoughts in his head to change Damon's mind on a decision he made. He thinks he knows Damon and he does to an extent but he also sees the best and worst in Damon, usually the worst. Also, he's probably going to manipulate these future happenings to his advantage because he wants his brother to stay a vampire. Stefan doesn't want to be alone - "I guess I just needed my brother." If Stefan just wanted to have an opinion on the decision, that's totally fine. People do tend to share their opinions on people's life all the time. However, trying to influence Damon's decision by thought manipulation is taking it too far. Elena has always said Stefan allows her to make her own choices, why can't Stefan do that with Damon?

Thank god! It was one of the first things mentioned in the Tyler\Michael thread when Matt first mentioned becoming cops and it took episodes upon episodes for it to be mentioned in the show.

I didn't like most of this episode. I loved the Delena, I liked seeing Elena happy and still handling herself like a boss even when human (when she stabbed Lilly in the eye it reminded me of when she stabbed that guy at the decade dance with a mop\broom stick!) and I liked Jo eating copious amounts of food because yummy! Everything was kind of just...eh. :shrug: Matt's starting to annoy me and I never get annoyed at Matt. I understand why he can't stand vampires but if it's really bothering him and he really feels like Alaric should leave town to protect his children, I think Matt should leave to protect himself and his sanity. I think he can always get some of his vamp friends to compel some money from some bank for him, compel him to leave town and Matt could just be happy somewhere. I just don't like seeing Matt so angry and unhappy with his life. I want him to be happy and living in this town is just making him bitter.

THIS :clap: :love: I agree compeltely with you Kem :nod:
As I said, it's ok to me for Stefan to give his opinion, but he's already trying to impose his view to Damon and that's not fine :nono: Hope the promo is misleading as always, hope Damon will show his version too, but Stefan thinking to know his brother already, not ok with that :shrug: :nono:

IKR?! :lol: I was like "Oh, so you're smart enough to have understood that!" :lmao: :lol: I'm glad bc Tyler shouldn't risk to ruin his own life again just for a job, I guess he has a lot of money anyway thanks to his family and anyway he can find another job, something thta won't put him in danger :nono: :D

That was a great moment, so badass, I'm proud of her, she doesn't need vampire strenght to fool and kick Lily's ass, she's used to deal with vampires at this point! :cool: :yay: :woot:

That was funny :lol: :love: She was adorable, I love Jody when she makes that cute expression :sigh: :in_love:

I really don't get what they want to do with his character? :confused: Do they want to make him against-vampire for real, like the hunter in the beginning of season6? Will they just drop this like nothign happen? I'm perplexed :confused: :shrug:

Yeah, I know that, but Damon meant it because Stefan always said he hated to be a vampire bc off the whole ripper thing, doesn't mean that Stefan told him to get the cure together or stuff like this :shrug: :D


Again, Damon won't take the cure for sure, so Stefan can sleep sweet dreams about this, he won't lose his brother for now :lol: :D

At least Damon knew it was an option. Imagine if Mama S wasn't an issue and Damon had turned :eek: How do you think Stefan would have felt with that blindside? Since when has Damon been influenced by others? If he really was 100% confident I don't think he would have had to keep it a secret. He even looked a little sad when she drank the cure. I was actually hoping Elena would also discuss turning with Caroline but since they're not related it doesn't bother me like Defan but I don't like that this cure storyline was so rushed. It makes Elena look flaky agan.