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Old 04-23-2015, 02:56 PM
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TVD Episode Discussion - 6x19: Because - Airs April 23rd

6x19 - Because - April 23rd

PROMO | EXTENDED PROMO | STILLS | WEBCLIP I | WEBCLIP II


TO TELL HER OR NOT TO TELL HER – Wrestling with whether or not to tell Elena (Nina Dobrev) about the cure, Damon (Ian Somerhalder) brings up their future together and what life would be like if they weren’t vampires. Meanwhile, it’s all hands on deck when attempts to stop a humanity-free Caroline (Candice Accola) doesn’t go as planned. Elsewhere, when Bonnie (Kat Graham) discovers that Damon has betrayed her trust, she takes matters into her own hands, setting off a chain of events that leaves Damon dealing with the fallout. Lastly, after being forced to face his traumatic past, Enzo (Michael Malarkey) sets out for answers and is surprised when he learns the truth about the day he was turned into a vampire. Paul Wesley, Zach Roerig and Matt Davis also star.
Directed by Geoff Shotz
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Old 04-23-2015, 02:59 PM
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Old 04-23-2015, 03:54 PM
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Thanks for starting the thread again, Anna.
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Old 04-23-2015, 06:15 PM
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Damon does remember that when a vampire takes the cure, they begin aging to their natural age.
Katherine took the cure, then died of old age.

It's fine for Elena, she's only been immortal for a few of years, but Damon's been alive for more than a century.

What's the point of taking the cure "to be with Elena" if he'll be dead in a few months.
As a vampire they could be together for a few more years, at least.
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Old 04-23-2015, 07:08 PM
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Again, it doesn't work like that. Katherine only began aging because Silas sucked the cure out of her system.
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Old 04-23-2015, 07:12 PM
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can two people take one cure? i thought it was only enough for one person in the past
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Old 04-23-2015, 07:37 PM
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can two people take one cure? i thought it was only enough for one person in the past
I assume the plan will be for Elena to take the cure and Damon to suck it out of her.
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Old 04-24-2015, 03:03 AM
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I assume the plan will be for Elena to take the cure and Damon to suck it out of her.
That or maybe they're planning on getting another cure from one of the prison worlds. I was thinking that if the 1994 prison world day keeps on repeating wouldn't there be a new cure everyday?
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Old 04-24-2015, 04:38 AM
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Again, it doesn't work like that. Katherine only began aging because Silas sucked the cure out of her system.

Was that outright stated in the show?
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Old 04-24-2015, 11:53 AM
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That or maybe they're planning on getting another cure from one of the prison worlds. I was thinking that if the 1994 prison world day keeps on repeating wouldn't there be a new cure everyday?
I assume that there would be a cure in the 1903 prison world too.
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Again, it doesn't work like that. Katherine only began aging because Silas sucked the cure out of her system.

Was that outright stated in the show?

Yes. Before the cure was sucked out of her, she just plain ol' human. She got colds, she wasn't as strong as she used to be, her drinking tolerance was low but there was no indication she was aging until Silas sucked the cure from her.
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Old 04-25-2015, 01:02 AM
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I assume that there would be a cure in the 1903 prison world too.
Probably. I thought of the 1994 one though because in the promo it looks like they're at the Gilbert house so I think they go back to 1994 and I don't see a reason if not to get the cure. Unless it's a replica of the house or a vision or something. They could just be feeling nostalgic though and go for a visit.
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Old 04-26-2015, 08:44 AM
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I wonder how Damon can survive being all the vulnerable human. He wouldn't last a day.

Such a waste of story line that Katherine took it before and somehow sealed the life of the "cure." Oh, guess what, it's not the last time we'll see it. Wait, there's more - we can prolly get more of cure if we go back to the prison world on a different year. That "cure plot" should've ended when Katherine took it, I am beginning to think they are running out of ideas.

Anyway, I did like the episode especially tbe DE scenes. Too cheesy bt it worked for me.

I love the SC scene when Caroline got her humanity back. Such strong acting from Candice. Love that girl. She aces all emotional scenes.
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Finally I was able to re-watch the episode Found it practically as boring as the previous one, very repetitive in dynamics and dialogues So glad the whole switch-off storyline is over bc I wouldn’t have stood Caroline like this one more episode, totally waste of time to me, they really didn’t know what to do with her character after her mother died, so they followed the easy way Same for the Ascendant thing, my god, if Lily repeats one more time “My family here” “My family there” I’m going to mute her And let’s use for the 1000000th time the twist “Human!Elena would love Stefan again or stay with Damon?” since this cure thing isn’t repetitive and forced enough per se, like they hadn’t given the answer to that question 2-3 times already
“Next Thursday, on “The Recycled Diaries”…”



THE NEUTRAL:
Jolaric: they’re cute, but Alaric’s potential has been SOOOOOO wasted this season it hurts me, they cannot make him just the “future husband and daddy” type, he was so much more as an hunter too


Matt:
I miss the point in showing him changing the T-shirt but I guess JP thought we had to see some abs in this episode too, how sweet of her! Useless as always, not a surprise


Steroline: felt very sorry for Stefan in this switched-off phase when it comes to their relationship, he did so much for her, but still, I think this whole thing has been completely unnecessary for them, even more bc they deserved the “perfect” first time together and I don’t think they got it



THE BAD:
Caroline: so, a female switched-off vampire is kidnapped and tortured to switch her emotions back on by her BF and his brother and her friend to the point she has hallucinations/dreams of her mother emotionally blackmailing her… geez, where have I already seen a thing like this, I’m wondering? So glad this is all over, waste of 3 episodes as far as I’m concerned, they handled everything badly, Candice’s act was forgettable, more a parody to me than actual skills, not to mention that they recycled everything from Elena’s switch-off arc, even the frames at this point, so whatever Wish I could say I feel bad for Liz’s letter and Caroline not be able to read it, but I don’t, seems her most concern in this whole thing is to have ruined her chances with Stefan, no character development in this, so whatever…


Caroline/Elena: again, it amazed me how they copied the two SLs basically and still hinted Elena was as bad as Caroline: her whole speech was really pathetic, considering Elena isn’t her, she wasn’t there to give her a moral speech like Caroline always does, because she knows she’s no better than her; mocking Elena was even worse but hey, guess it’s a crime to desire a normal cute life for Caroline But I’m sure everything will be forgotten and the writers doesn’t even care, they didn’t make Elena fight back, like Caroline was right in everything she said, she will be forgiven immediately


Bonnie: my god, never found her so annoying and irritating! Cry me a river, Bon Bon, build a bridge and move on for good, may I remind her 1)none had forced her to sacrifice herself for the others, she did it out her own free will, she could have said just “No”, doesn’t seem to me she has problems with it anyway; 2)everyone has been tortured, murdered, threatened in this show, difference is they never wasted 2-3 episodes complaining all the time and playing the victim like they’re the only ones to suffer; 3)none is forcing her to stay in MF or Whitmore, she doesn’t want troubles? Move to California, do me this favour! Oh, and I’d like to know where this incredible knowledge of the vamp-witches come from that makes her so sure they’re worst-to-be-handled than the Originals or Silas and that they will come after HER? Don’t recall her doing anything bad to Lily (unlike Damon, which makes me 100% sure Elena will be the target ) to unleash the vamp-witches’ revenge Not to remind her that if they’re strong again it’s probably thanks to the gratis dinner, aka Kai, she has given them


Bamon: so he uses and hurts her and she bitches and mocks and hurts him… wow, and they dare to call each other “friends” Very forced relationship to me, and it’s showing every episode more, I find ridiculous Bonnie pretends to know him after 4 months forced together out of something everyone knows since season4, while for the rest she shows no understanding nor sympathy, basically she agrees and cares for him only when he acts like she wants Damon going to her only to ask favours speaks volumes too, no need to comment it



THE GOOD:
Lily: don’t like her attitude towards her children, she seemed to be more happy to see Enzo than Stefan and Damon I get they make her think about a part of her life she wants to forget, but it hurts how they destroyed all my ideas of brothers/mother scenes Need more information about her relationship with the vamp-witches, wondering if it’s just loyalty or something more to make her care so much, but I find her repetitive lines about “family” very boring Annie is very good though, she’s making me appreciating Lily’s scenes so much, even when I don’t want to


Enzo: boring as usual, but he made me laugh a couple of times, I appreciate his line to Lily about the fact she has a family in MF and she should focus on that And I liked her tender side of him going to her when she called him


Stefan: next time take a “acting lesson”, my dear, it was so obvious your emotions were on I’m surprised Caroline hadn’t noticed it sooner I loved how he fought for her to the point he was hurt by her several times


Elena: sweetheart, bit of an advice: next time just read that damn letter instead of putting it in the hands of someone who clearly was about to destroy it anyway I liked how much she wanted to help Caroline in switching her emotions back on though Still too sidelined for my tastes, but at this point I just find it pathetic, I won’t waste my time on this


Damon: great performance of Ian in the emotional scenes, very good Maybe next time learn to hide things better, not to piss mommy-dearest and not to keep secrets, and everything will go well


The trio initial scene: I need more of this, miss them interacting so much, it’s a pity they don’t do it again so much anymore Really liked the scene where they planned how to fool Caroline, very good script for the dialogues and the acting was perfect


Delena: this whole cure thing would have been even nice and very good for characters’ development, but at this point it’s only rushed (Delena would really take the cure without another one? So rushly?), forced (they need to get rid of Elena somehow) and bad-written That be said, I love them planning a human future together, very sweet, Elena saying again having a life with him is enough to be a vampire forever (but still her missing human life makes her a deep complex character )… and the final scene, I melt when Damon decided to be human with her, such a character development, he wants to be with her, whatever their nature is
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Old 04-27-2015, 02:09 AM
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I think I'm officially giving up my Damon fan card. After having some difficulty with him from season 3 to 5 I was glad to see it looked like he was maturing in season 6. It looked like he was starting to care about other things beside Elena. His growth wasn't being tied to her like it was in the earlier seasons. It was coming from him being a better brother and friend. From the synopsis I had a feeling he might also consider being human and I was curious to see how it would play out. But this guy has had zero character development in over a century. He wanted to be a vampire for Katherine because of how insecure he was and wanting her love. And now he's just as insecure by deciding to become human just to be with Elena. This guy needs to learn to love himself and stop placing his self-worth on whether a doppelganger loves him. It's unhealthy and quite pathetic. It would be interesting if he turned human just to have Elena end up leaving and then he's stuck being miserable just the way he was when he turned. He can come full circle and maybe then he'll finally grow up. But I doubt that would happen.


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I wonder how Damon can survive being all the vulnerable human. He wouldn't last a day.
My exact thoughts. He would hate it so I'm glad to see Stefan trying to knock some sense into him in the promo.
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