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^Thanks Kat. Love your Buffy/Angel pic.
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The writers were also harder on Stefan than anyone else in the whole show. Even Alaric's tragedies weren't deemed somehow "his fault". Yes Stefan was hard on himself but why did the writers think he deserved this and yet Damon gets more time to learn how to be moral? Oh well...like I said, it's the best they could do with what they had written already. :P |
I just think it's so sad and disturbing that Stefan, the kid who has been depressed and guilt ridden throughout most of his supernatural life had to basically commit suicide to have a happy ending. It is just such a morose and disgusting message to send. I mean you can put any kind of spin you want on it, but in the end Stefan's character had absolutely no progression... his whole 'story' has been used to prop Damon. How Julie/Kevin thought this was the right choice is beyond me, but it does prove to me that Damon's story is really the only one they give a damn about.
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At first when I watched the episode I was kinda distracted and not paying attention but afterwards when I actually spoke to others and thought about it, I was so saddened. Stefan was not a hero in this equation. For me heroes are people who want to live but end up dead in a fight or because they have no choice. Stefan had a death wish during those last couple episodes and it's so disturbing that the writers are trying to glorify suicide like that. He basically went from wanting to live to wanting to die multiple times in 8x12-8x15. And we saw him wanting to commit suicide in S1 and then being willing to die a few times after that. This behaviour is what you see in someone who is clinically depressed and mentally ill. And even though he had things that made him happy in the end his self-loathing made him choose death. And I'm not saying he's a saint but on this show since all the characters have done terrible things and are seen as the heroes the situation is judged differently. And of course these writers probably don't even see it that way. But what do you expect from people who don't even realise they're writing rape scenes or didn't think Caroline should react to having her body violated with a forced pregnancy and all the other gross things they've done? :puke: :sick: |
I completely see what you guys are saying. Stefan by far and away didnt deserve this ending and its depressing in a lot of ways how they wrote him out. I see where they were going and why they thought it was poetic but its hard to take. I think just knowing the series is over and all the actors are moving on just makes it easier though. Also believing they all find peace eventually anyways.
a few things i want to comment on after reading the thread: Tyler and Vicki didnt end up together :lol: They were just both watching over Matt because he meant something to them. Still the worst part bY FAR of the finale was Elena’s curse suddenly being lifted. IS THERE ANY EXPLANATION THERE AT ALL FOR HOW SHE FIGURED THAT OUT I AM CONFUSED. Quote:
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you made a lot of good points actually. haha. But ehhh its tv. There’s often a lot of holes. Writers aint that great most of the time. And by that I mean they just do really care about all the little details of their show like they should. I've only seen 1 show thats truly impressed me from start to finish where it was obvious the writers put that much detail into the writing and the story. Truthisbeauty, you made some good points. I too wanted the boys to die TOGETHER. I think I would have been happier with that ending even if I didnt get my DE endgame. Maybe even given CAROLINE the cure and like you said, compelled the girls to forget about the boys existence and move away and have happy lives as young women. |
JP has a fixation with the word 'epic'
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Did anyone notice that she must have curled her hair within like 5 to 10 minutes, after she pretended to be Elena with straight hair? :rolleyes: There were quite a few scenes in the finale where all I could do was roll my eyes... And I 100% agree, the worst plot hole was Bonnie breaking the sleeping curse within a couple of minutes. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Second place goes to the missing logic behind Stefan forcing the cure on Damon, without knowing that Bonnie would break the sleeping curse. It really would have been ridiculous if Bonnie hadn't been able to break the curse and Damon would have died as a human before Elena even woke up. :rolleyes::rolleyes: |
I have to say that I am not obsessed with the show and haven't been obsessed for a while... BUT it was a show I always looked forward to watching. I watch a lot of tv and I will keep them in my PVR for weeks before actually sitting down and watching them, but not TVD. Every Friday night or latest, Saturday morning... I had to watch. It kept my interest.
I do see a lot of your points, especially about Bonnie. After the finale I started watching from the pilot again... and I realized that Bonnie's one great love was Enzo. I don't think she had anyone else other than him. Her role on this show seems to have been a very strong supportive character. And that's not my opinion. I don't believe she is just a supporting character by any means, but that's quite literally her role in the TVD world. However, I see her as the one person constantly saving these people's lives. So she is and always has been far more than just a giant support. Stefan is a little more complicated to me. I never analyzed or dissected his or Damon's character, nor did I ever compare who is the better brother. I just saw them as both terrible vampires when their humanities are shut and Stefan having learned to change because of the awful things he's done during those times while Damon felt bitter and angry. I don't think it means one is better than the other. With that being said, other than Elena magically waking up out of nowhere, the other thing that still bothers me, but in a completely different way, is stefan dying and not ending up with Caroline. Their love story may not have been around since day 1, but it was a few seasons brewing and I actually felt something for those 2. It isn't fair that their love came to a halt like that as if it wasn't as important as Damon and Elena's... or even Bonnie and Enzo. Their goodbye felt rushed. And I feel like Caroline should have felt both her mom AND Stefan by her side. |
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I'm confused about why Stefan had to die. So the only way to stop Katherine was to stab her and then have the hell-fire consume both of them? Also, why did Katherine keep coming back after being stabbed several times in the episode?
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don't look for reason and logic, I've learnt that with TVD a long time ago :lol:
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A lot of things didnt made much sense. I think Katherine said the dagger sends her to hell but it cant keep her there
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And Bonnie just happens to figure out how to undo the spell. :lmao: |
Wow, can't believe the show's really over.
And I can't believe they killed off Stefan. :bawl: I had a feeling someone was going to die in the finale, but I kinda thought it was going to be Bonnie (and then her and Enzo could be together in the afterlife). Overall I liked the ep, but I would prefer it if Stefan got a happy ending as well. He (and Caroline) deserved it. Loved seeing Lexi though! And all the other cameos in the final scene. :love: Quote:
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Also, I hate that it was so important for Stefan to sacrifice himself in order to redeem himself for killing Enzo, while nobody seems to care anymore that Damon killed Tyler earlier this season? |
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From what I gathered though Katherine was now in charge of hell and she could come and go as she pleased so after they killed her she could pop back to the living. Someone had to make sure she didn't escape the hellfire so that they could kill her and destroy hell forever. Stefan decided he was expendable enough to do it :shrug:. |
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