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Old 11-11-2016, 01:32 PM
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TVD Episode Discussion – 8x04: An eternity of misery - Airs November 11th

8x04: An eternity of misery - November 11th

EXTENDED PROMO | STILLS | WEBCLIP I | WEBCLIP II

A SUPERNATURAL ORIGIN STORY - Tasked with finding a mysterious artifact, Damon's latest mission takes him to Texas where a violent run-in with Peter Maxwell leads to a surprising revelation. Meanwhile, after gaining the upper hand in their fight to save Damon and Enzo, Stefan and Alaric team up and uncover the origins of the mysterious force they’re up against. Finally, Matt returns to the fray after his past and present collide in an unexpected way. Caroline also appears.

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Old 11-11-2016, 01:36 PM
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Old 11-11-2016, 08:05 PM
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Episode was boring to the 10th power.

Caroline - Nice to see you for 2.5 seconds.

Steffy - Blah, Blah, Blah vampire guilt . Can we please move on?

Damon - Wow you found a ball. So happy for you.

Siren A - So annoying. Just would not shut up or say something that was worth hearing.

Siren B - Creepy and crazy and I just don't care.

Cade - POC is the devil, why am I not surprised?

Alaric - That was some next level badass or dumbass I just don't know .

Creeper Student - I liked the actress, but didn't care much about the character so oh wells .

Matt - No cares.

Tyler - You idiot didn't fight back and now you're dead .

The only thing that was remotely interesting about the episode was that the origin of the sirens and how they came to be. It was dark and twisted. Everything else was lame and I missed Enzo .

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Old 11-11-2016, 08:20 PM
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I change my mind, this is my least favorite episode of the season. No Bonnie, no Enzo, barely any Caroline.....and lots of 3 newbies nobody cares about? I almost changed the channel. The Georgie fake out didn't work on me, I always knew Seline would be connected to Sybil in some way, either as a descendant or a sister. The only surprise was that Seline was the "evil" sister. I thought her job as the nanny was her trying to start a new life, like Stefan did when he enrolled in high school.
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Old 11-11-2016, 09:00 PM
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Now I have cable and I can finally watch live! I missed doing this...

SC phonecall was adorable! But I wanted more Caroline.

Even though its hard to watch evil Damon, its sort of fun. Reminds me of the old season 1 days.

MATT finally! (Great casting on his father too! But I always assumed Matt didnt really have one?) He looked so strange in this episode though, I guess it was the hair. Matt finding Tyler in the trunk was SO SAD. Great acting from Zach there. Poor kid has been through so much and I was hoping that Tyler wasn't actually dead. I hate that Damon was the one to kill him too, WHYYYY.

"Do you break into house's often?"
"Gotta get into Alaric's bed somehow"


OMG so funny. But NOOOOOO I DONT WANT GEORGIE DEAD.

I really loved the fake out with Goergie and the Nanny I thought it was the nanny at first but then when they showed it to be Georgie I was bummed, so finding out it really WAS Celine after all, that was great, a great twist. But then she had to go and kill Georgie, ugh. I liked her. I'm so annoyed.

I thought this episode was a bit better than the last, it was a nice break from Enzo and Bonnie, but the flashbacks bored me, surprise surprise, Sybil is a snooze fest - and of course they are trying to humanize her.... and I didn't like all the separation. And why the heck does Sybil care about Stefan? This SL is just so weird to me. This show has come so far from where it started, it really has. Too bad they didn't just go back to basics this season. This SIREN thing really has nothing to do with vampires in any capacity so I'm just confused.
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Old 11-12-2016, 03:20 AM
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I ABSOLUTELY HATE that Tyler is dead!!!!!

But that scene where Matt found his best friend in the trunk was heartbreaking. This was literally the only scene that made this episode worth watching. Great acting from Zach!
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Old 11-12-2016, 08:55 AM
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I'd really like to know what were the writers smoking when they thought dedicating an ENTIRE episode to Sybil&the sweet sister was a good idea? Seriously... Couldn't they make it a slow discover as it was for Klaus, which drives more curiosity and suspance?!? Maybe putting in the episode other characters people care more about maybe *cough cough* Enzo *cough cough*

I hate that Sybil turn out to have a sister, either by blood or not, tired of old-families drama. I hate she turn out to be the "good girl", tired of villains with sobbing-stoories to make us be sympathetic with them. I hate they tried desperatly to draw a parallelism with the brothers when that story is past and forgiven since season2, quoting Stefan

And the story may have been well cruel and twisted and intriguing aand IMA I kind enjoyed it... but what the hell was that set design and recreation of the greek world?!?!? I understand the budget is low, that's it a teen-drama with no expectations, but come on!!! It was all so fake and pathetic, let's not talk about greek people being burn on a pyre like medieval witches or talking about "God" and Hell, when they could easily make them talk about "Hades" and "Underworld"... lazy work at its best Sorry, me being italian and have studied greek-roman archeology and history makes me very punctilious about this Either Cade turns out to be the Evil itself, pure cruelness and so on, or it's so pointless I can't even

Words cannot express how much I DIDN'T miss Matt Donovan on my screen, can't believe this useless one is still around, always complaining and playing the victim Even Tyler turn out to be more usefull staying around... which, btw, I hate fiercely how they killed him for good, makes no sense to me, and I still hope they'll find a loophole in this, I want him alive and with his happy ending!!!

And let's not talk about how Damon was the one to kill him, seriously?!?! Again with this bad/good brother thing: none gives a damn about it at this point, let's move on already as 3/4 of us already did!!!

No Enzo. Very bad

No Bonnie and barely Caroline. I can work with that.

Nice that sometimes they remind us things like vervain and healing-blood

NOOOOOOO, WHY THEY KILLED GEORGIE?!??! I LIKED HER SO MUCH!!! So sad she's gone already, it was the only character I was enjoying and I was already planning her story with Rick And the way she went off (just as for Tyler) pissed me off very much, she didn't deserve that Didn't buy for a second she was the sister, by the time she knocked Stefan down, I knew it was the nanny, never trusts nunnies

Alaric... what the hell have you done?!??!
But I loved he asked for Damon, he's worried #Dalaricfeelings

I don't get Damon's SL anymore... or parts of it at least He's supposed to have forgotten Elena completly and never met her but then he said they broke up for good and he never asks who she is when they mentioned her to him... plotholes or something is up?
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Old 11-12-2016, 10:46 AM
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I think Hell could be the new 'Other Side'. They killed Georgie so quickly that I feel they might bring her back. Same with Tyler.
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Old 11-12-2016, 12:23 PM
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I think Hell could be the new 'Other Side'. They killed Georgie so quickly that I feel they might bring her back. Same with Tyler.
Let's hope so for both of them, at least by my part, Tyler bc he's of the old gang and deserves a better happy end, Georgie bc I actually liked her so I wouldn't mind her to come back, she shouldn't burnt in hell just bc of a mistake
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Old 11-12-2016, 08:21 PM
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Can we talk about that ending!!!! What really caught my attention is how Georgia died at the end. She was taken the exact same way that Katherine was with that strong wind that blew her out. Which frankly made me very excited because it means she probably went to the same place as Katherine and there's hope of K's return. Look I don't know what the writers have planned but K was such an iconic character that they should at least mention her whereabouts before the season ends and do her justice. KP IS A SURVIVOR! Tell me I'm not the only one who got excited about it!!!
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Old 11-13-2016, 08:44 AM
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Can we talk about that ending!!!! What really caught my attention is how Georgia died at the end. She was taken the exact same way that Katherine was with that strong wind that blew her out. Which frankly made me very excited because it means she probably went to the same place as Katherine and there's hope of K's return. Look I don't know what the writers have planned but K was such an iconic character that they should at least mention her whereabouts before the season ends and do her justice. KP IS A SURVIVOR! Tell me I'm not the only one who got excited about it!!!
I would love for Katherine to come back, but it's all dependent on Nina and no one is 100% sure on her coming back. Plus if they can only get her for a small end scene I doubt they would waste it on Katherine, but just focus on Elena.

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It definitely felt like they wasted an entire episode which is sad since they had a very limited amount of episode for the final season. They could have easily told the siren origins as a subplot in a different episode. It was not deserving of the focal point of an episode.
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Old 11-13-2016, 12:38 PM
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Episode 4

Okay. Where to start? I understand why they had to cut out Caroline, Bon Bon, and Enzo in this episode, however I didn't like it. They had to fill this entire story of cannibal sirens into a 42 minute episode, so yeah I get why there was no time for #Benzo or plain old Caroline. And to be honest, I was so into the story I almost forgot about them. That being said, the Stefan being good or bad is OVERKILL. Been there, done that a million times. But, this sudden and obvious realization that all vampires (and bad humans) go to hell is a little nerving. Even sweet little Caroline and Elena have killed people, so off to Arcadia for you when you die.
Side note, I have a few theories. The other side was destroyed, yes? So when the other side disappeared, the looming unknown of what happened to you when you died was a giant question mark, right? Until now. Remember how Georgie died. On this other limbo and then SWEPT UP INTO ABYSS. HELLO PEOPLE! Don't you recall that happening to Vicky AND Katherine (and frankly everyone on the other side except Lexi). In the upcoming episodes, I have a feeling that the characters (most likely Bonnie or Matt since they've witnessed it) are going to realize that the place Katherine and Vicky went to is this "hell" where Arcadia resides.
Damon doesn't WANT to help Sibil "deep down". Or, maybe he does? Honestly, Damon better get his Elena-loving **** together pretty soon or I'm going to get very annoyed (well, more annoyed than I am right now).
Now let's talk about ALARIC. HE BETTER NOT BE DEAF FOR THE REST OF THE SHOW. He has gotten the worst of luck in the past seasons and I want him to have a happy ending. However, he's got some mad balls for being able to get out of the tunnel.
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Old 11-13-2016, 01:19 PM
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But, this sudden and obvious realization that all vampires (and bad humans) go to hell is a little nerving. Even sweet little Caroline and Elena have killed people, so off to Arcadia for you when you die.
By Arcadius' logic, yeah, they'll go to hell I guess they'd either "defeat" hell and destroy it, or accept their fate and live their lives as much as they can before the end... which, for some one them, could mean liteerally "forever"

I must be the only one who doesn't care if Katherine returns or not, let alone Vicky Doubt that if Nina comes back (and she'll probably will for less than 1 episode) it'll be for Katherine though
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Old 11-13-2016, 03:51 PM
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i found this ep to be kinda predictable and boring. i love the matt and his dad scenes. i felt so bad for him when he found tyler.

hope celine doesnt do anything to alaric's kids. i knew she was going to be trouble at some point.
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Old 11-13-2016, 10:33 PM
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I'd like to see K back as well. And Goergie, and Tyler...

I loveeeee Matt but I do agree, his character has been pretty pointless for a few seasons now, it's a wonder why they never killed him off.
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