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Old 01-24-2014, 11:02 AM
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Okay, I don't post much, but I felt that I needed somewhere to talk about this episode, because I don't have any friends that watch this show (well, my cousins do, but I need more).

Anyway, I watched it last night and had so many emotions going through me that I had to watch it again this morning.

I am kind of upset with the way things ended, for more than just one character/couple.

Katherine: I didn't want her to die, I actually enjoy her more than Elena (and let me give credit to Nina, who does awesome portraying both of these characters)... However, I don't like that she went into Elena's body. Can we say trouble? Katherine has always had a knack for messing with the Salvatore boys, and what better way to do it than be in Elena's body doing it? I feel like the boys have been through so much, and I really don't want to see her drive another wedge through them.

Stefan & Damon: Alright, I was a Stelena fan (I am NOT a Delena fan, but I like Stefan more with Katherine than Elena now). With that being said, I love how Stefan is handing Delena. To me, he has always been the bigger person out of him and his brother. Damon had no respect for Stefan's relationship, and Stefan has no reason to support Damon... but I'm glad that they have him supporting his brother. Why? Because that's who Stefan is. He's not heartless like his brother is, or, was.

Klaroline: I'm a fan, they have such undeniable chemistry that it drives me crazy (in a good way). I read an interview and according to Julie Plec, that was some kind of closure for them. Hold on, closure?! No no no, that can't be right. That was just a tease, because now I want more. I know he promised her he wouldn't return, but surely, maybe, Caroline will take a trip to see him? Maybe... hopefully.

I loved all the guest stars they had on there! I'm glad to have seen Jenna and Elijah, even though I wish that had been different. But Vickie and Alaric were what really got me. I almost started crying, especially when I re-watched it today. All the emotion just hit me... Matt's face when Bonnie was talking about Vickie. & then Jeremy all excited when Alaric showed up. Of course, I also loved Damon's toast to him and it makes me realize that Damon isn't a complete monster and that he does have feelings.

I also loved Matt & Rebekah, even though it was fleeting.

Oh, and my last thing... I didn't like that Rebekah "returned" Tyler as her parting gift. I feel like she is always undermining Klaus, and I feel that that was a slap in the fact to him... even though he may not even know that Tyler has returned. I don't like the way Tyler treats Caroline, so I'm hoping that there won't be a reunion on that. Keeping my fingers crossed.

In my opinion, that was the best episode this season. Congrats, TVD!
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KC was the only think I liked about the show... I think for once I can agree with Jp about is how they bulit these two up and to me it just seems it was left as tease not neccesarily and ending.
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This episode was ok, but not upto expectations.
Had so many expectations from Klaroline, and it turned out to be just fanservice.
Stefan again on the worst end of stick. He tries to forgive Katherine and support her and Katherine jumps into Elena's body to survive. Had so many hopes for epic Steferine end. There it goes.
Damon being weird and unbelievably ruthless. He's a lost cause.
That pissed me off so bad,it's not even funny. I mean, I still liked the episode, but it ruined it. Would it have been the end of the world if she died and the ending was so beautiful?

In the books, she dies without any weirdness(Although Elena going from a ghost to a vampire to an angel and whatnot is) and it is what it is. Yes, she's weaker and griller in the book, but my point is that she's not invincible. They would have to kill her before the series ended anyway.

I'm kind of glad Damon let Elena go, even if I used to ship them. I'm tired of the triangle and she really shouldn't make excuses for him. He's better of with someone like Rebekah who a.)Doesn't give a crap if he's a terrible person and b.)Has done questionable things before.

I felt so sorry for Enzo. Damon's bros always wind up being screwed over at some point.

I'm glad they got Klaus/Caroline over with. I don't like Klaus,but I saw their chemistry before it even started. She and Matt should move to NOLA once TVD ends.

I don't want SE to get back together. He's better off moving on with Caroline and Elena...should try being single for once in her life.

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I don't see the point of Tyler being there at all. He picked revenge over Caroline, the moment was awkward and he's never given a crap about Katherine. I mean, did they even interact?

It made some sense with Bonnie since Caroline and Matt needed him,but this was weird.

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I was surprised he was the only Original to not actually come to Mystic Falls. Elijah coming makes more sense than Rebekah.
It does and Katherine probably still loves him. She seemed so happy when she thought he came.

I get why Rebekah came back b/c she probably wanted to see Matt,but Elijah knows how Katherine feels, dammit. They had a pull even when she was human. It was very disappointing.
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Old 01-24-2014, 04:09 PM
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I liked the episode but it was pretty bland for the 100th. There was no "big" moment and Katherine getting inside Elena's body was predictable.

I wonder how Katherine can keep up the lie because Bonnie is going to say Katherine didn't cross over.

The only scene I loved was the last scene with the whole group minus Elena. It reminded me of S1-S2.
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It wasn't the best episode for an 100th episode but I did enjoy it

glad we got to see many cast members make an appearance
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I liked the episode but it was pretty bland for the 100th. There was no "big" moment and Katherine getting inside Elena's body was predictable.

I wonder how Katherine can keep up the lie because Bonnie is going to say Katherine didn't cross over.

The only scene I loved was the last scene with the whole group minus Elena. It reminded me of S1-S2.
This is one of the reasons I don't like the Originals. By S3,things changed and the original cast stopped being as important. The Jeremy and Tyler bromance ended, Anna/Jeremy suddenly came back and the entire Mikaelson clan overshadowed everyone else. I'm not even going to start on what happened to poor Alaric.

I know Jeremy isn't in the books,but they still should have elaborated on the original cast.

Klaus is completely different in the books and more likable, imo. He's a lot older than a 1,000, he's a clear-cut villain and he's downright psychopathic. I don't care that they altered his relationship with Katherine,but Klaus didn't overshadow everyone in the books. I couldn't finish S3-I got tired of how much things changed and all the good things were shortchanged. Even in S4,the fun Matt/Bonnie stuff was so brief. When Jeremy died, I was done.

Alaric/Jenna would have been great, Jeremy and John talking would have been killer and Alaric and Damon having one last drink would have as well. I liked how in the beginning, they were all together drinking while talking about how Katherine treated them.

I wish Matt and Stefan had scenes. In the books,they have an epic bromance. I feel like Stefan doesn't really have any friends, aside from Caroline. He and Bonnie could be friends,but they never really interacted much.
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....Read the books. There not good.

So lets start, we get a flash back of knocked up Katherine. Yeah, I guess. Never did go into who the baby daddy was. But oh well. Then we move on to Stefan at Nadia at the hospital. Two of the most blah characters being blah at one another.

Damon drunk and depressed because he dumped Elena. Fan of Daman here, not of the ship. Glad its on hold, because lets be honest...it'll be back. Because this is TVD's.

Elena being woken up by her friends, and told to get over it. Sorry Elena, it's been 8 hours since your broke up, but time to move on. Also, Caroline bashed Damon some more. Cuz he's a bad person. Oh wait, Caroline didn't your ex try and murder a pregnant girl...a bunch? And you had tree sex with Klaus, who killed your ex's mom, Elena's aunt, Elena once, Katherine's family, most of Elijah's g/fs, 10000+ other random innocent people, but feel free to bash Damon.

Loved the get together and bashing of Katherine. Lets be honest, sure she's tons more entertaining and smarter then Elena, but then so are most 3 year olds.

Stefan...your an idiot. Not news to me, but honestly....idiot. 'She's a survivor'. Seriously? Seriously?!? The sex had better have been like porn star sex to make you that stupid.

Nadia kidnaps and buries Matt. Sigh... Of course she does.

Stefan and Elena to the rescue. Of course they are.

It's a trap? Of course it is.

Talked about the tree sex earlier. Also, no one cares that Bonnie and Jeremy had sex. Bonnie is barely still a member of the cast, and Jeremy usually sucks too.

Aunt Jenna stabs Katherine. Awesome. Creepy uncle/daddy cuts off some fingers. Awesome. Elijah vanishes to leave Damon creeping on Katherine....still awesome!

Rebekah saves Matt. Well, at least she looked cute doing it.

Stefan & Elena lose blood to gypsys....yeah, I'm sure this wont come back to haunt anyone. Either we're looking at clones or magic babies. I'm calling it now.

Much like I called Katherine jumping into Elena's body as soon as Nadia brought up her being taught how to jump into someone's body.

Elena: "I forgive you, because I'm the better person. And oh so smart."
Katherine: "Good for you." Grabs head and steals body, "Idiot."

PS: Vicki! Aleric! Tylar = wannabe baby killer from now on. Wished Anna had showed.

All in all, a good 100 episode. Nothing too surprising happened though.

Recap: Stefan's an idiot. Elena's an idiot. Katherine smarter then both combined. Damon holds a grudge. Caroline's a hypocrite. Tylar...aren't you dead yet? Matt...you were in a safe and I still don't care. Bonnie...aren't you dead again? Jeremy...isn't your g/f dead again? All in all, best part was the foreshadowing to a magic baby.

JUMPING THE SHARK with magical babies soon. I'm calling it.



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Don't see how Caroline is a hypocrite when she already knew how Klaus is.... and I am willing to be the reason she slept with Klaus is because in JP. mind that would make Caroline and Elena "Even"
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She's a hypocrite because she's always judging Elena's relationship with Damon. Then she goes and sleeps with Klaus who has done insane things to all of them especially the former ~love of her life.

So yeah, she can sleep with who she wants but she's definitely a massive hypocrite.
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Loved the episode...
Loved seeing flashbacks of Katherine...and her hallucinations...
I disliked Damon in this episode and found it heartless and cruel for him to tell Katherine how her parents deaths were all her fault.

Not thrilled about the bodyswap in the end altho I did enjoy the part where Katherine does her "hi, I'm Elena Gilbert" bit in the mirror.

I think it would have been more interesting if Katherine chose to jump into Damon's body instead. That way she could mess with him like he messed with her during her deathbed scenes.

Klaus and Caroline: Hot scene

I didn't care much when I saw Jenna, John and Alaric.

Loved Stefan , the dreams, and the kiss on the brow, It annoyed me when Elena showed up at the door interrupting this moment.

I could have cared less about Elena's I forgive you crap. Whatever.
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She's a hypocrite because she's always judging Elena's relationship with Damon. Then she goes and sleeps with Klaus who has done insane things to all of them especially the former ~love of her life.

So yeah, she can sleep with who she wants but she's definitely a massive hypocrite.
Yeah well, now they both cant say anything about their love life now can they?

and I think that the ONLY reason why JP did that..

Personally neither Caroline or Elena should care who the other person is with or sleeping with.. Because I have best friends too but I wouldnt dare allow them to dictate who I sleep because frankly its none of their buisness.

But it is what it is.
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Yeah well, now they both cant say anything about their love life now can they?

and I think that the ONLY reason why JP did that..

Personally neither Caroline or Elena should care who the other person is with or sleeping with.. Because I have best friends too but I wouldnt dare allow them to dictate who I sleep because frankly its none of their buisness.

But it is what it is.
I think JP already said it in an interview. It means we can expect more illogical things. Care being Delena cheerleader and all.
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I disliked Damon in this episode and found it heartless and cruel for him to tell Katherine how her parents deaths were all her fault.
Damon hates Katherine. With good reason. Sleeping with both brothers, lieing about the tomb, knowing both brothers were struggling for 150yrs and not caring, coming back into lives just to hurt Damon with 'its always Stefan', I mean I could go on.

Also, it is her fault her parents are dead.

Of course Katherine jumped into Elena's body. It was obvious as soon as 'teaching her to travel' was even brought up. This is Katherine we're talking about. Which is why I continued to call Stefan an idiot for defending her. Of course she was going to screw everyone over. Its what she does.

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Caroline shouldn't have said it to start with. She's been team Stefan for years, and doesn't bring up the fact that he sometimes goes insane and rips people limb from limb and then plays with the bits.

But any time she gets the chance to bash Damon? Will jump for it. And will continue to do so because that's what she does. It doesn't matter how many times Damon saved her life, it doesn't matter how many awful things Klaus, Stefan, Katherine, or anyone else does, because Damon didn't love her in S1 and it hurt her feelings.

So we might see more Caroline/Klaus stuff in the future. They are still part of the same network. Despite being on different shows now. Buffy the Vampire Slayer & Angel had crossovers for years until they were on different networks. And then still had 3 more.

So all in all, not surprised by Katherine's move, I roll my eyes and Stefan & Elena and think their parents should have had them tested as kids, Caroline is a bunny boiler, and I'm still calling magic baby right here and right now.



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Loved the episode...
Loved seeing flashbacks of Katherine...and her hallucinations...
I disliked Damon in this episode and found it heartless and cruel for him to tell Katherine how her parents deaths were all her fault.

Not thrilled about the bodyswap in the end altho I did enjoy the part where Katherine does her "hi, I'm Elena Gilbert" bit in the mirror.

I think it would have been more interesting if Katherine chose to jump into Damon's body instead. That way she could mess with him like he messed with her during her deathbed scenes.

Loved Stefan , the dreams, and the kiss on the brow, It annoyed me when Elena showed up at the door interrupting this moment.

I could have cared less about Elena's I forgive you crap. Whatever.
I did, too. He pissed me off and he was being petty. I think that deep down, what Silas said bugged him. Katherine loved Stefan and not him and Elena loved Stefan first. He can't blame all of his actions on Katherine. Sure, she turned him, but she also said that he was turned willingly. What about stuff he did long after she died?

I like Damon,but it's stupid to ignore bad things that he's done. Even with his bro Alaric, they had to get past the fact that Damon screwed and turned his wife. He is who he is and it's why he left Elena.

I hate that what he did will probably seemed justified now that she jumped into Elena's body. The Stefan and Katherine moments were beautiful and I'm not letting the ending take that away.

I think Elena said she forgave her b/c of things Stefan said. It probably made her feel guilty,so she got it out of her system. Personally, I wouldn't care, nor would I apologize. The woman attacked her biodad,made Jenna stab herself, fed Jeremy to Silas and killed her best friend. also, she tried to kill her more than once. Why would anyone let that go? None of the others did.

Katherine is still cooler, though. I just hate how her jumping bodies will make Stefan feel stupid and never care about her again. It really should have been Damon and not only could she get back at him, she could make Elena feel worse.

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I think it's just her way. Caroline minded Bonnie's business too and she didn't seem thrilled. Being BFF's doesn't mean people aren't entitled to privacy and room to make their own decisions. I wouldn't allow my best friends to dictate that either,but I'm a personal who establishes form boundaries from the get-go.

Why does it even matter? They've both slept with evil guys and Caroline liked Damon first. Yes, he treated her like crap, but after that, she had Matt and then Tyler. Let it go already-She's been loved since then. :roll eyes:

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Caroline shouldn't have said it to start with. She's been team Stefan for years, and doesn't bring up the fact that he sometimes goes insane and rips people limb from limb and then plays with the bits.

But any time she gets the chance to bash Damon? Will jump for it. And will continue to do so because that's what she does. It doesn't matter how many times Damon saved her life, it doesn't matter how many awful things Klaus, Stefan, Katherine, or anyone else does, because Damon didn't love her in S1 and it hurt her feelings.

So we might see more Caroline/Klaus stuff in the future. They are still part of the same network. Despite being on different shows now. Buffy the Vampire Slayer & Angel had crossovers for years until they were on different networks. And then still had 3 more.
You're right,but I think it's more than that. He didn't love her,but he acted like he didn't even like her. He treated her pretty badly, even if Klaus was a lot worse. She's being stupid about Damon because Stefan has been her best friend for so long and got her through rough times. It is stupid that she ignores his ripper side,but he does try very hard to control himself. I ship these two,so I don't care that she's biased towards Stefan.

I wouldn't mind if Caroline did crossovers a few times-Same with Matt. It's being done on Ravenswood and Pretty Little Liars. I'm sure on other spin-offs,they'll do the same. It wouldn't feel weird, although Katherine visiting Elijah would be. He didn't come to see her and even if I dislike the Originals, he and Hayley seem pretty solid.
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Damon hates Katherine. With good reason. Sleeping with both brothers, lieing about the tomb, knowing both brothers were struggling for 150yrs and not caring, coming back into lives just to hurt Damon with 'its always Stefan', I mean I could go on.

Also, it is her fault her parents are dead.

Of course Katherine jumped into Elena's body. It was obvious as soon as 'teaching her to travel' was even brought up. This is Katherine we're talking about. Which is why I continued to call Stefan an idiot for defending her. Of course she was going to screw everyone over. Its what she does.



Caroline shouldn't have said it to start with. She's been team Stefan for years, and doesn't bring up the fact that he sometimes goes insane and rips people limb from limb and then plays with the bits.

But any time she gets the chance to bash Damon? Will jump for it. And will continue to do so because that's what she does. It doesn't matter how many times Damon saved her life, it doesn't matter how many awful things Klaus, Stefan, Katherine, or anyone else does, because Damon didn't love her in S1 and it hurt her feelings.

So we might see more Caroline/Klaus stuff in the future. They are still part of the same network. Despite being on different shows now. Buffy the Vampire Slayer & Angel had crossovers for years until they were on different networks. And then still had 3 more.

So all in all, not surprised by Katherine's move, I roll my eyes and Stefan & Elena and think their parents should have had them tested as kids, Caroline is a bunny boiler, and I'm still calling magic baby right here and right now.



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You know what though honestly I don't really care if Elena gets bent of shape on whoever disagrees with her on her relationship with Damon. She never cared too much what people say in the past why does it matter to her now. They all have been judgemental to each other one way or another. Like Elena just got judgey with Stefan sleeping with Katherine so to me they all do it just this show wants to make Caroline the example of it each and every time.
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