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Old 10-14-2011, 02:03 AM
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You know what, I'm just not gonna reply any further as to why I think Stefan owes her nothing ..cause were obviously going to disagree....and personally I'm not in a mood to even be debating with this matter. Obviously were entitled to our own opinion just like how you're entitled to yours I'm entitled to mine but I don't think there is a point to even reply to anyone opinion as to why they hate Elena. so just forget what I said .
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Old 10-14-2011, 02:40 AM
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do we have a thread for jeremy/kat yet?
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Old 10-14-2011, 04:43 AM
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Awesome episode.

Tyler is an hybrid, holy hell
And he seems quite happy with it

New team: Jeremy&Katherine.

Mikael is ALIVE

Damon gets to play the hero, swoop in and save the day/Elena

Matt, you brave, brave Matt. I adored every single scene you were in.
The goodbye with Vickie had me in tears

The only way for Stefan to be really loyal to Klaus was to compel him.
My heart literally broke for him.
He fought, fought and fought.
But this was not a fair faith since Klaus had obviously tools Stefan didn't it.

I'm not gonna hold it against him that he bit Elena.
It wasn't even Stefan.

Rebekah can please gtfo my screen, I'm annoyed with her already.

Also Klaus making hybrid because he's lonely? What a sorry excuse for his behavior is it?
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Old 10-14-2011, 08:57 AM
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Brilliant episode! best of the season I think

Im personally annoyed with Elena, just because of how easily she forgives Damon for his behavior - but for Stefan who was compelled in front of her - she is disgusted with? contradiction right there. damon isnt compelled, stefan is

i want more anna! dont care for vicki at all! she needs to go back to being off my screen please!

tyler/caroline - hope for the best for you two this season
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Old 10-14-2011, 10:08 AM
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Okay WTF just happened in this episode?!

Tyler: He was one badass werewolf before but to see him become a hybrid I was like, WTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go figure that all they needed was Elena's blood and not her death. That's how all those sacrifice stories play out.

Matt impressed me though I seriously wish he would just stay human. Now he's part of the supernatural because he can see ghosts.

Loved the Jeremy/Katherine stuff.

A new threat with Michael, so looking forward to this!

Damn just when I thought there was gonna be a breakthrough with Stefan we end up loosing him again.

One of the fun things I like about this show is how I can't make up my mind between Stefan & Elena and Damon & Elena. Right now I am so DE.
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Old 10-14-2011, 11:17 AM
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Wow, last night episode was just phenomenal. I really think it was the best of the season so far.

I swear i think Damon still cares for Katherine. I think he is just trying to hurt her the same way she hurt him for basically 145 years. If she feels a miniscule of the pain she caused Damon he would be satisfied.

Finally Matt. As much as i wish he wasn't seeing ghost and was still the normal one. It was about damn time he got a good episode and a decent storyline.

And SE, wow they just broke my heart. Even if i wasn't an SE shipper i think i would be feeling there pain. The whole episode was just so beautifully tragic for them. I loved every minute of it though.

Paul freaking Wesley i must once again applaud you You were in top form once again. Simply amazing. You managed to stun me with your amazing acting more and more with every episode this season.
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Old 10-14-2011, 11:29 AM
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Stefan's demenour at the end! There was a certain glint of fear in Damon's eyes! Thats the Real Ripper for you! Thats how he was in the past, the one Damon remembers so well.

Damon's still trying to get even with Katherine, thats why all the rejection. Has nothing to do with the feelings he still has for her.

And I'm duty bound to report that Delenafan me had tears in her eyes when Stefan was fighting against himself not to hurt Elena. Paul surprised me so much. I didn't know he was capable of scenes like this as I suppose he didn't have the chance before.
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Old 10-14-2011, 11:32 AM
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ICA. And I love it. As much as i think Damon deserves a girl that will truly love just him and not both his brother and him... Sometimes i can't help but want to ship Damon/katherine. Their banter and back and forth comments and then their snarky behavior towards each other i just find irresistible.
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Old 10-14-2011, 11:33 AM
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what a episode !

I don't know what I suppose to say
I'm afraid of tyler, it's really not good what happened with him..& I can't imagine how they can this reverse.

Paul Wesley acted great ! altough I'm a Delena fan I felt their pain, it was really terrible..I'm very excited of the next episode. The brothers exchange their roles..I still love damon, but the bad stephan is really interesting

I hope matt remains normal..and i don't know what I should think about the vicky story..
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Old 10-14-2011, 11:57 AM
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yea, i get the feeling that Tyler is not "fine" CT are in for a ride i think. I still waiting to see what it means for Tyler to be a hybrid. Will he have some connection with Klaus now? Didn't he want to create the Hyrbrids for his own personal army? So will Tyler have to listen to Klaus? Or will Tyler have to deal with his blood thirst now? This does mean though that he is not forced to transform at full moon right? I never really fully understood all this hybrid crap?
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Old 10-14-2011, 01:46 PM
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The last scene with DE was so touching, but it got even better when Stefan interrupted. I literally got chills. His voice was like ...haunting. I was getting definite Angelus vibes. He is going to get under each and every one of their skins.
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Old 10-14-2011, 02:42 PM
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Im personally annoyed with Elena, just because of how easily she forgives Damon for his behavior - but for Stefan who was compelled in front of her - she is disgusted with? contradiction right there. damon isnt compelled, stefan is
I don't think she's disgusted by Stefan per say but just the horrific of the way Dana and random guy were losing their lives. Either way she's watching someone get killed, watching the life drain out of them so no matter what the reason it's going to be horrifying. However she never gave up on Stefan during the whole thing scenario: she constantly felt like he could fight his urges and the compulsion, she constantly believed in him.
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I don't think she's disgusted by Stefan per say but just the horrific of the way Dana and random guy were losing their lives. Either way she's watching someone get killed, watching the life drain out of them so no matter what the reason it's going to be horrifying. However she never gave up on Stefan during the whole thing scenario: she constantly felt like he could fight his urges and the compulsion, she constantly believed in him.
Yea, i didn't feel she was disgusted either. Damon she doesn't necessarily forgive or approve of his behavior. Elena just chooses to see the better qualities in him. She sees something worth saving.

She never gave up on Stefan till the end. Until he let go of his humanity. ANd to be honest I still don't think she has given up on him completely yet either. Time will tell.

All i know is that so far i am loving every episode of this season
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Old 10-14-2011, 07:18 PM
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@Mitra I don't get the Elena hate either! All I see is a girl thrown in this world. And her being a doppleganger would have brought her into it without being with Stefan. It's not her fault. Going to Tenn. And Chiacgo might have been stupid but she's only known good Stefan and all he's done is put her first, she was just trying to do the same.

I get Klaus thought Stefan was his friend but what did he except after "killing" Elena and basically forcing him to join him? But Stefans really bad at being deceitful, he should have listened to Katherine.

I loved Katherines scenes for two reasons. One, it showed she's always a step ahead of Klaus. And two, I was glad Damon shot her down after everything she put him through.

Also, I felt bad for Rebekah when she found out Klaus wanted to make more hybrids cause he's lonely. She looked genuinely hurt. She still loves her brother and was still teaming up with him. She probably thinks he could care less now.
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Again with my unpopular opinions, but Elena is and was willing to say and do anything from keeping Stefan from going over then edge. Any emotional blacmail, guilttrip etc, so he would not switch off the humanity. Killing Elena, or her turning into a vampire would make him turn completely over, with no turning back, we all know that. And on another note, had Stefan not decided to pursue Elena, she would be fully unaware of all of this, so in a way he owes her a lot. Yes, she has made the decision to date him, but the danger aspect appeared in her life long before she was fully aware what was going on and who Stefan/Damon were. so her "You owe it to me" was not bad at all, IMO. Yes, he owes it to her not to kill her, and fight the compulsion. Besides, she again agreed to sacrifice herself for Tyler and all her loved ones, with her nod to Bonnie.

I also have a feeling, that Stefan is playing Klaus. Now Stefan will be able to be around Elena, and protect her, with Klaus permission, just with acting, that he has no humanity left in him, and he has no love for Elena.
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My thoughts on the episode in 7 simple words.

ELENA IS NOT A FREAKING PUNCHING BAG !

*punches everything*
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