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Originally Posted by Jasper1975 (View Post) Loved the little nods to the boat. Young Gibbs commenting of how the boat was in the bottle "How do you get it out of there" When one of the questions we have had all these years is how Gibbs gets his boat out of the basement when it's done.

And I hope we will find out some day.

[florerr]

I'd like to know that too...

Loved all the little references, and how they wrote their first meeting tying it nicely with the already existing NCIS history

[maplezbear]

Loved the episode. It was nice to learn about Gibbs and Ducky and how far back their friendship goes and how it all started.

[shinebrighterxx]

A storm here on Tuesday night made me recording play up hope this doesn't keep up...

Gibbs is in the trunk?

McGee's anniversary So that means he decided to be an agent two or three years before the show started? Three I'm guessing since this would be set in 2019...

The wedding anniversary would explain Gibbs being over anniversaries

oo NCIS being painted... so weird not seeing the orange walls

Love how Gibbs' house was really Ducky's house first

McGee enjoying cutting into the wall

i was wondering if the M.E. was Dr Magnus who we'd met previously. Nice that Gibbs suggested that Ducky join NCIS Guess eventually Ducky did get to solve the case by working at NCIS

Ducky talking Gibbs into going back to Shannon very fitting
I presume that when Gibbs & Ducky cross paths again though Gibbs lies about Shannon? As Ducky didn't know about Shannon before... or we are meant to forget what they've already told us... it is also possible Ducky played dumb in respect for Gibbs, even when Jenny discovered the truth

Glad Gibbs decides to go out with the team in the end . That must've been one of the most awkward calls he's made

(side note: the end of the ep tells me new NCIS returns in two week so that means despite it being no-ratings period here they will still air all three eps that air this year in the US which is nice)


Agreed with the comments above about the boat in the bottle. Was thinking the same when I saw that bit

[florerr]

Either Ducky didn't want to say anything about Shannon, or possible they have simply lost in touch and by the time they re-met when Gibbs joined NIS, he didn't ask him about Shannon...

I mean Ducky is a gentleman, and before internet it wasn't that easy to keep in touch

Either way I loved the episode, and what they did with their first meeting...


And, yes, it was strange to see the office without the ugly orange... Wonder if we're going to get a new painting now that McGee "destroyed" the wall

[shinebrighterxx]

I still think they would've realised who each other was even if they never kept in touch. I highly doubt they made enough of an impact on each other that they would've keep in touch. But still when they met again there should've been a memory, especially given its Ducky. He always has stories to tell

I never said anything about not liking it, simply that they are still unfortunately possibly contradicting what they've already told us

I doubt they'll ever get rid of the orange

[florerr]

Ducky could have recognized Gibbs, but decided to stay silent, if Gibbs didn't seem to recognize him (As he may have put everything related to Shannon into the back of his mind, never to bring up again... )


I don't mind them contradicting themselves every now and then... It's been on air since forever, and they're still more consistent with their stories than many of the other shows

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2 weeks later watching the 400th

Oh Shannon's case or not considering Gibbs was in the trunk huh?

Oh McGee saying it was wedding anniversary for Gibbs/Shannon last week

Sean really looks great as younger!Gibbs oh Shannon mention just as a gf

DUCKY just look at him

and the first introduction of the boys

Ducky at the office

Beautiful scenes both past/present relating to Ducky/Gibbs

McGee joy at the wall

Steak grilling on the fireplace having gotten it from his father Jackson

Oh Gibbs being the one to steer Ducky to being an ME

Oh their conversation about Shannon than Gibbs saying he doesn't blame Ducky for his heartache relating to Shannon/Kelly

Love them ending the episode having Gibbs deciding to join the team for drinks it was pretty cute

Overall I don't think it was a big "contradicting" this case was probably 10-20 years before them meeting again after Shannon/Kelly were dead so its something I personally am able to forgive/overlook

[florerr]

Agreed

This was a great milestone episode, and it was amazing to see Young Ducky & Gibbs within the same episode

[crash landing]

Yes the actor of Younger!Ducky is great plus Sean is great as Younger!Gibbs considering being son to Mark

[florerr]

Even his mannerism were similar to Mark's

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He does a fantastic job being Gibbs in flashbacks

[shinebrighterxx]

I wasn't going to start rewatching NCIS yet but I was curious on the episode commentary for this episode so decided to start earlier than planned

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Episode commentary is by Steven D. Binder (episode writer, executive producer/show runner), Sean Harmon ("Young Gibbs"), & Adam Campbell ("Young Ducky"). I'm presuming this is a covid thing but they actually show them during the commentary. Normally you just have the episode playing & the audio commentary goes on top & you don't see them. But this started with video from all three introducing who they are then went into a split screen thing. Oh no they changed it again. As each person talks sometimes they showed their video only with a tiny screen of the episode.
I took photos to show what I mean one / two


At the start Sean was in the trunk of the car the whole time they are filming the bit before the reveal which was around two hours

When writing the episode, Steven, had a few things he wanted to show. He wanted to show growth for Gibbs & Ducky in both the past & present, & he wanted to make the NCIS office a character. That's why things are found in the building during the episode.

Adam: "Sean, your father is a good looking dude."
Sean: [laughs] "Yeah, its, uh. I'm fortunate that I got a dad who, you know, keeps himself in shape & eats well & all that good stuff. People start falling apart otherwise. It's nice."

aww Steven's daughter was 4 month old at the time of filming this episode & he brought her to the set, she took one look at Mark & just reached out to him (I think he said 4 month, could've been 4 years)

Steven writes some episodes just to get Gibbs to say certain lines . In this case it was "Where's Waldo"

At one point Young Gibbs may have been more verbal, up until 'an event' (I presume they mean Shannon & Kelly's death), but they (Mark included) decided that it was best to keep the mute aspect of Gibbs as just being who he has always been.

Adam complimented Steven on writing British & they started talking about how Steven does his research on British idioms & how David McCallum would call him out if he got something wrong (thankfully has only happened once!). Then Steven mentioned that he uses some of the idioms he's come across now - one of his favourites being "have you lost the plot?". My mind is now blown. It is an amazing phrase, how do Americans not use this? Another thing Adam comments on - Americans say "I could care less" & British say "I couldn't care less", & prefers the British way . I think Australians say both, but more use the British one there. We definitely have "have you lost the plot" though.

The suit that Adam holds is an easter egg to a suit that Mark wore at some point.

Interestingly when watching shows Steven doesn't like flashback episodes, but then he also thinks NCIS makes them work

Adam asks Steven if it is hard to keep track of everything when writing things like this. Steven addresses the Ducky knowing Shannon plot hole - in the episode Young Gibbs & Ducky talk about a woman but they never say her name & Ducky doesn't know much about her. Fans of course know who they're talking about, but Ducky himself doesn't. Then when they meet again it is much, much later, so Ducky remains in the dark.

The wall McGee cuts is a fake wall built out about a foot in front of their actual wall

It was the first episode they filmed

The house is sort of explained too - they had more dialogue about Gibbs liking the house but it didn't all fit. What they wanted to explain was that he really liked the place which is why he rented it later on. Luck & fate was on his side I guess?

Gibbs' basement looks like Mark's actual workshop (according to Sean)

There's a look Young Gibbs does before he hops on the bus to go see Shannon. Sean says it was something he did but he can't say what it was Not sure what that is about...

Steven claims at the end here that none of the franchise does something special for their milestones ... I guess maybe not in the same way but at least for the core of the show I'd say LA did

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anyway, an interesting commentary. I liked being able to see them & see their reactions, instead of just hearing. That was a nice change so thank you covid for that. I'm glad they provided some explanations for the questions raised in the episode. I still think they're splitting hairs over the Ducky knowing about Shannon thing but it does make sense how they said he didn't know who Gibbs was talking about & then it was years later. Gibbs wouldn't have said anything had Ducky remembered & asked if he'd gone after that woman. But presumably this episode is the point where Ducky joins NCIS (or NIS as it was then). Does he not learn or ask why Gibbs joined NCIS/NIS too? I can't help it, I keep finding questions... can we get Gibbs & Ducky re-meeting in an episode to fill in the gaps?

[maplezbear]

Thanks for the commentary info. Sounds really interesting! I can't believe Sean was in the trunk of the car for that long!

[shinebrighterxx]

I know that amazed me