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Old 07-15-2017, 07:48 AM
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thanks

Found this. Someone pointed out to me that JJ and KH changed the dialogue here from 621

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do you mean adlibs?

hshapir - no, just worded differently. Same general idea though. Like for instance, from the convo you posted...

Joey: You've got one person right here, Pace. But I know that won't ever be enough. Not until you let it.
Pacey: How can you tell me that you're the one person I've got when I know that I don't, Jo?

And what was actually said...

Joey: Well, you have a person sitting right here, don't you? But of course, that's not enough. Not until you let it.
Pacey: In what world do I have you?
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Old 07-16-2017, 08:00 AM
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I like this version better which is probably why they kept it in. It says so much with so little words.

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Old 07-16-2017, 10:37 AM
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good point

I like this pic. There's this intensity and nervousness which shows she was affected by the kiss. She says she was walking around in a fog which felt like a metaphor that was similar to his about the smudged windows about how everything was hard to see until they saw each other

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Old 07-16-2017, 03:58 PM
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I really liked that she went to see Pacey and not Dawson. That really showed where her heart and head were. Dawson was her past, Pacey IS her future.
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Old 07-16-2017, 06:10 PM
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good point. She didn't like him putting them down which showed she was still thinking of them as a couple

In 622, when Dawson brought up about it being dangerous about them sleeping in the same bed, Joey was so nonchalant and said she didn't miss being fifteen anymore. PJ's last scene had some sparkly looks and Pacey asks if she's going to wash her hands clean of them and smiles when she says she's going to try like she didn't really mean it and then he smiles back. I remember there have been different opinions on this scene. Sure, I would have maybe liked it more angsty, but to me, I felt like the writers were leaving it open for PJ. I still felt it was better than how DJ ended in 622
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Old 07-16-2017, 06:35 PM
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good point. She didn't like him putting them down which showed she was still thinking of them as a couple

In 622, when Dawson brought up about it being dangerous about them sleeping in the same bed, Joey was so nonchalant and said she didn't miss being fifteen anymore. PJ's last scene had some sparkly looks and Pacey asks if she's going to wash her hands clean of them and smiles when she says she's going to try like she didn't really mean it and then he smiles back. I remember there have been different opinions on this scene. Sure, I would have maybe liked it more angsty, but to me, I felt like the writers were leaving it open for PJ. I still felt it was better than how DJ ended in 622
I wasn't a huge fan of that scene because it was like they were trying say she was going to move on without them and I didn't care for that at all. I had not heard anything about the show when I originally watched it 5 years ago, so I didn't know they ended up together.

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Just spent the last 15 minutes watching this video. It shows their scenes from Double Date and a couple more scenes from S1 which shows them as friends even though there is still their biting banter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDjFa5wRlV4


I'm pretty sure this made it to the Board before, but I enjoyed seeing it again and it does bring up some great points.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jennaguilla...ind#.momZWVGra
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Old 07-16-2017, 07:54 PM
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you make a good point

thanks for the video and link. I love that link. I don't understand about the PJ scene from CH being formative. I am disappointed that photobucket got rid of so many pics. I hope the gifs remain
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Old 07-16-2017, 11:30 PM
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I like this version better which is probably why they kept it in. It says so much with so little words.
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Old 07-17-2017, 12:43 AM
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I was just watching some YouTube clips..I loved separation anxiety even though it was sad it was still beautiful seeing how much they still loved each other and joey faces and eyes filling with tears when she said she can't enjoy it without him when they are at the party..and when they talk on the dock..
I also love joeys face in graduation when pacey said if he was to ask the girl he loved to go sailing with him again would she..
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Old 07-17-2017, 03:29 AM
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I like those scenes too

I notice in the Graduate how there is so much pain and hurt in Joey's eyes when she asks about them and then when he asks her to go sailing with him again, her face lights up
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:10 AM
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I feel bad for Joey in Graduation, but my heart breaks for Pacey even though he was the one who ended their relationship. It just shows how broken he was and my heart just breaks for him.
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Old 07-17-2017, 04:35 AM
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agree. My heart broke for the both of them. When she turns around, she looks all disappointed when he says see you. I remember someone on the show saying how Pacey's heart broke even though he broke up with Joey and Andie

When she finds out he's in Boston and didn't tell her, she is hurt too

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Old 07-17-2017, 07:09 PM
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Yep me too...yep when she finds out he is in Boston and he didn't want to see her..she is so sad..I never understood why he wouldn't of wanted to see her?
I love in seperation anxiety when she goes to his house and and is rambling about the dean etc and he just cuts in and saays I miss you jo..
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Old 07-17-2017, 09:01 PM
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Yep me too...yep when she finds out he is in Boston and he didn't want to see her..she is so sad..I never understood why he wouldn't of wanted to see her?
I love in seperation anxiety when she goes to his house and and is rambling about the dean etc and he just cuts in and saays I miss you jo..
"I miss you Jo" - my heart melts

I like to think that Pacey doesn't want Joey finding out he's in Boston has to do with him wanting her to find her place there without the ties of her life in Capeside getting in the way. I like to think he did it for selfless reasons, unlike Dawson who wouldn't give any thought of that and would just interrupt her life because he wants to.

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This is a fairly lengthy article and I haven't finished reading it yet, but I had to post this bit from it.

https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/.../creek-theses/
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Here’s a thesis: all of Dawson’s Creek makes infinitely more sense, and is significantly more enjoyable, if you stop thinking about it as a show “about” Dawson Leery and start thinking about it as a show about Pacey and Joey, and the grinding misery of growing up working-class in a snow-globe town where all your friends are well-to-do.
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Old 07-17-2017, 11:32 PM
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Yep it melts my heart to when he says it 💜
Yes that's a good way of looking at it let's hope that was the reason why he chose not to let her know he was in Boston...
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