Uh-oh... Maybe it's a good thing that the "old" Olivia seems to be coming back, because I think Walter just decided he doesn't want Peter to go "home"...

Scientifically, I'm not surprised by this. I think one thing that Peter hasn't figured out is that there is no other timeline. He hasn't figured out that if he were really in a timeline where he died as a boy, there would be no Bridge, because he never would have used the Machine to create it. That's why the Observers kept talking about "erasing" Peter from the timeline. They couldn't just go back and set the universe on a path where Peter wasn't saved, because (for whatever reason) they need the Bridge to exist. What's really going on is that the timeline Peter is in now ishis original timeline, just with most (but not all) of his own history and interactions "erased" from it. And since it was created artificially by the Observers, it's coming undone—that is, the "erasures" are unwinding, and the timeline's natural history is slowly reasserting itself.

I think so ,too. At the beginning I wasn't sure, but know I think you are right. The bridge couldn't exist if this would be a different timeline. The Observers only erased their memories of Peter , but now he is back they came back. The only thing I still ask myself is, what Nina is doing with Olivia? Is she giving her drugs that she will remember everything, so she helps her in a strange way, or does she try to stop her memories ??


Oh, I just had an odd thought...

I read an interview with Joshua Jackson a while ago where he said something about, there's this character, and you think one way about him, but he turns out to be something completely different, or something like that.

So...how about this? What if David Robert Jones actually turns out to be the "good" guy? That is, "good" in the oddball sense that sometimes shows up in these kind of series...where the good guys seem to be committing terrible acts, but they're doing so in order to fight some greater evil force. I can see the Observers ending up being the "bad" guys, except for September, who has grown a conscience and doesn't want to carry out their plan, and Jones being the one who is trying to fix everything...

I normally don't post here... but I love my fringe and after tonights episode I am more confused then ever.

So is he in an alternate timeline or is Olivia really getting her memories back that were just erased from the observer people?

But I don't really see how this plays out however

Uh-oh... Maybe it's a good thing that the "old" Olivia seems to be coming back, because I think Walter just decided he doesn't want Peter to go "home"...

Scientifically, I'm not surprised by this. I think one thing that Peter hasn't figured out is that there is no other timeline. He hasn't figured out that if he were really in a timeline where he died as a boy, there would be no Bridge, because he never would have used the Machine to create it. That's why the Observers kept talking about "erasing" Peter from the timeline. They couldn't just go back and set the universe on a path where Peter wasn't saved, because (for whatever reason) they need the Bridge to exist. What's really going on is that the timeline Peter is in now is his original timeline, just with most (but not all) of his own history and interactions "erased" from it. And since it was created artificially by the Observers, it's coming undone—that is, the "erasures" are unwinding, and the timeline's natural history is slowly reasserting itself.

Oh, I just had an odd thought...

I read an interview with Joshua Jackson a while ago where he said something about, there's this character, and you think one way about him, but he turns out to be something completely different, or something like that.

So...how about this? What if David Robert Jones actually turns out to be the "good" guy? That is, "good" in the oddball sense that sometimes shows up in these kind of series...where the good guys seem to be committing terrible acts, but they're doing so in order to fight some greater evil force. I can see the Observers ending up being the "bad" guys, except for September, who has grown a conscience and doesn't want to carry out their plan, and Jones being the one who is trying to fix everything...

I’ve always thought that everybody is where they’re supposed to be, so Olivia regaining her memories is not surprising, but why only Olivia for now? Did they need her to go to Westfield to activate her with all those electromagnetic fields? They created that overlap that merged the two universes and just like the residents Olivia “was flooded with years of experiences and memories”; the only difference is that Olivia has Cortexiphan in her blood and she didn’t suffer the consequences of that merging, right? The big question now is what they want from her.

Uh-oh... Maybe it's a good thing that the "old" Olivia seems to be coming back, because I think Walter just decided he doesn't want Peter to go "home"...

Scientifically, I'm not surprised by this. I think one thing that Peter hasn't figured out is that there is no other timeline. He hasn't figured out that if he were really in a timeline where he died as a boy, there would be no Bridge, because he never would have used the Machine to create it. That's why the Observers kept talking about "erasing" Peter from the timeline. They couldn't just go back and set the universe on a path where Peter wasn't saved, because (for whatever reason) they need the Bridge to exist. What's really going on is that the timeline Peter is in now is his original timeline, just with most (but not all) of his own history and interactions "erased" from it. And since it was created artificially by the Observers, it's coming undone—that is, the "erasures" are unwinding, and the timeline's natural history is slowly reasserting itself.

Oh, I just had an odd thought...

I read an interview with Joshua Jackson a while ago where he said something about, there's this character, and you think one way about him, but he turns out to be something completely different, or something like that.

So...how about this? What if David Robert Jones actually turns out to be the "good" guy? That is, "good" in the oddball sense that sometimes shows up in these kind of series...where the good guys seem to be committing terrible acts, but they're doing so in order to fight some greater evil force. I can see the Observers ending up being the "bad" guys, except for September, who has grown a conscience and doesn't want to carry out their plan, and Jones being the one who is trying to fix everything...

Now that's quite plausible...from what I gathered, in this new reality, for whatever reason, the cortexiphan trials didn't go nearly as far, and the amount given to Olivia was much lower than before...and we're assuming that Nina has been secretly dosing her with more, presumably to get her abilities to manifest. Though remember that she had the "dream" of her and Peter before they went to Westfield, so possibly that experience just accelerated something that was already happening.

Although...this is odd...wouldn't Olivia realize that the reality she now remembers is different from the one she supposedly knew all her life? Of course they ended the episode at exactly the right moment. Presumably the next episode picks up where this one ended.

As for Jones, recall that in his initial appearance, Olivia was being "recruited" to be a warrior for the whole ZFT thing, which begs the question: A warrior against what? At the time, we all just assumed it was against the other side...but as I recall, a ZFT was written on both sides, by both Walter Bishops. So what if the cortexiphan children were going to be created to fight some other, outside force? Say, a bunch of bald-headed guys who seem to be manipulating both universes for some unknown purpose?

I'd be very interested to know where Sam Weiss is in this reality.