FoxPhile

Ropetuned

I think eventually a new Fringe team would be assembled and in my head canon they find a way to bring Walter back

@l3jandra

Sorry, I don't get the question, can you explain, please

FoxPhile

This is just a thread to discuss - or speculate on - what might have happened after the 2015 timeline reset - in other words, after Walter went to the future with Michael and after the series ended.

Ironhorse25 asked if there was a thread for this, and I didn't see any threads that really apply, so I created this new one.

@l3jandra

Oh, I got confused with the year 2015 I thought it was s3... Of course it's been 3 years since Fringe ended.

Ropetuned

One thing I hated about the reset is we got a quick after scene with Polivia but nothing about Astrid

FoxPhile

True. There's no clue about what might be going on with any of the other characters. What about Lincoln and Charlie and Broyles and Nina?

Ironhorse25

Ropetuned

Exactly! They were rushed though and didn't even know they were getting a final season until the last minute though so I do get it

FoxPhile

They actually did a great job in wrapping things up. But that doesn't mean there aren't things we wish we knew or could have seen.

@l3jandra

Consiedring the amount of episodes s5 had they did wrapped everything but it wasn't the best ending for me

Ironhorse25

The Invaders and Walter are caught in an infinitely cycling chain of causality. The Invasion causes Walter to go to 2167, which in turn erases the Observers from history, which in turn erases the Invasion, which in eliminates the causal catalyst for Walter to go to 2167 in the first place, and thus the Observers come into being, and thus the Invasion occurs, and thus Walter time travels forward, and so on it goes. The script featurette reveals that this paradox is corrected by deleting Walter from the moment of the Invasion. Thus ensuring that his personal causal chain is not overwritten by a new chain of experiences in the post-2015 reset timeline, sustaining his existence into 2167.

From this, I have further theorized why the Observers were not erased prior to 2015. The writing for the 'Walter' paradox assumes mechanistically that the Invasion is the chronological catalyst of the causal chain of events leading to Walter erasing the Observers. For this is why Walter must be erased from the moment of the Invasion, for erasure of the Invasion would veer Walter from his causal path to 2167. Therefore it is ultimately the Invasion that resets the timeline, as it sets into motion the chain of events that leads Walter to erasing the Observers from history. Therefore, erasing the Observers' future origins does not erase them from all of time, as is often assumed. They are only erased from the moment time is reset. And as we have learned from the 'Walter' paradox, it is not Walter traveling through time that is the original catalyst of the reset. Rather, Walter's act is one of the last stages of the rewrite. It is originally the Invasion that has written the timeline that culminates in the Observers' erasure.

Thus,"Fringe"'s intended mechanics for the final reset is simple. The Invasion effectively and ultimately erases itself from time. It is from this moment that time began to be rewritten, chronologically. The rewrite thus begins with the rewrite; nothing will be rewritten prior, for the rewrite cannot preexist itself. Hence, September still intervened in Walternate's lab, Peter came to the Blue Universe, September preserved the White Tulip for Walter (taken from S3-EP10 "The Firefly", which was negated when the altered timelines came into reality), and ultimately time is reset from the moment of the Invasion in 2015, erasing Walter and September from that moment, but not from existence in 2015.
Fringe Episode 513: "An Enemy of Fate" - Fringe513AnEnemyOfFate0012494 - Fringe Files

Ironhorse25

Actually, "Fringe" ended on January 18, 2013. The reset took place in 2015. Two years into the then future.

Ropetuned

I would love a spinoff based on this timeline reset

Ironhorse25

Another interesting question is did Walter reset the timeline to the original or altered?

Walter would have also erased Olivia's trip to the alternate universe in 2036 and, of course, both Nina and Etta's deaths in 2036 'over here'.