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Old 09-25-2018, 04:44 PM
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Alternate Timelines Thread #1: Where is Peter Bishop?

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Where is Peter Bishop: Who is Peter Bishop? Where is Peter Bishop? Peter Bishop drowned in Reiden Lake as a young boy. The effect on both universes is profound.




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We we talking about during S4 when Peter was totally erased?
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Old 09-26-2018, 02:35 PM
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We we talking about during S4 when Peter was totally erased?
Yes. Ironhorse25 asked if there was a thread for this story arc, and there isn't, so I created this new one.
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Nice threads! Very good idea.
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This is one of the storylines that makes me really wish I'd been a fan when the series originally aired. I bet the fandom was going crazy wondering if Peter would ever be back.
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Old 09-27-2018, 02:56 PM
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Altered Timelines Thread #1: The Differences Within


Both universes changed ... forever.

Examining the differences within.
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Old 09-27-2018, 03:42 PM
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Thanks! Interesting thread
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This is one of the storylines that makes me really wish I'd been a fan when the series originally aired. I bet the fandom was going crazy wondering if Peter would ever be back.
Viewers were expecting that when Peter returned, it would be to the original timelines. When that did not happen, it left audiences confused. Even though I understood what was going on, many others didn't. Ratings dropped and it unfortunately marked the beginning of the end of "Fringe".

`But where we last left off had many fans scratching their heads. After Peter (Joshua Jackson) built a bridge between the two universes in order to save billions of lives, he seemingly disappeared into thin air. The Observers noted that Peter had, in fact, never existed at all, a comment that caused just as much confusion as it did outrage among vieweBut where we last left off had many fans scratching their heads. After Peter (Joshua Jackson) built a bridge between the two universes in order to save billions of lives, he seemingly disappeared into thin air. The Observers noted that Peter had, in fact, never existed at all, a comment that caused just as much confusion as it did outrage among viewers`.
https://www.tvguide.com/news/fringe-...noble-1037963/

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That's where the Amber universe came to view, back then I really thought we were going back to the blue/red universe
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Altered Timelines Thread #1: The Differences Within

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That's where the Amber universe came to view, back then I really thought we were going back to the blue/red universe
The original blue/red universe. So did I.
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Altered Timelines Thread #1: The Differences Within

The Three Lives of Vertus Air Flight 718

Original Timeline - S1-EP13 "The Transformation" originally airing on February 3, 2009:


Vertus Air passenger Marshall Bowman mutated in a matter of minutes, after becoming ill during the flight.

Vertus Air flight attendants were initially reluctant to treat or assist Bowman. After he mutated and threatened flight safety, desperate calls were made to the cockpit.

Vertus Air pilots contacted Air Traffic Control and attemped a distress call that was cut-off - the final transmission -"Our purser's reporting a disturbance in the main cabin. There seems... It's trying to get in. New York, we need an emergency land... 718... we have something on board... It's already killed at least three pass...."

Vertus Air Flight 718 crashed in Scarsdale, New York killing all 147 on board including Marshall Bowman - the exact same number as those who perished in the Glatterflug Flight 627 crash on the very first episode "Pilot".



Altered Timeline - S4-EP16 "Nothing As It Seems" originally airing on March 30, 2012:

Vertus Air passenger Marshall Bowman started to mutate in the plane's restroom, after becoming ill during the flight. His transformation ceased, but later resumed while he was in custody after the flight.

Vertus Air flight attendants were initially reluctant to treat or assist Bowman. An Air Marshal interceded and delivered bowman to TSA custody after landing.

No one from the flight died except Marshall Bowman, after he was in custody and could not reach the drugs moderating his transformation.



The Alternate Universe - Fringe Season 2 Press Kit - William Bell's New York Post Newspaper - originally released September 5, 2009:

NTSB Withholds Transcript of Flight 718 Black Box.
Official cites concern for Vertus Air employees' families. Full story, Page 8.


FringeS2Newspaper02.jpg (image)

Did Peter's erasure from existence also change the fate of Vertus Air Flight 718 in the altered alternate universe as well?
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Altered Timelines Thread #1: The Differences Within

Olivia's Stepfather

Original timeline:


Olivia shoots and wounds her stepfather.

From S1-EP6 "The Cure" that originally aired October 21, 2008.



Altered timeline:

Olivia shoots and kills her stepfather.

From S4-EP2 "One Night in October" that originally aired September 30, 2011.



Alternate Olivia either never had an abusive stepfather or whose stepfather wasn't abusive in the alternate universe or altered alternate universe.

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Altered Timelines Thread #1: The Differences Within

In the alternate universe Violet Sedan Chair never broke up and continued to record.

Founder and keyboardist Roscoe Joyce never ended up in a nursing home.

Since there was no Peter as a child to catch a firefly, the other child (Victoria Dimiro) did catch it and not go wandering off. Her father never had to go looking for her in his car, therefore never hitting and killing Roscoe's son Bobby Joyce in 1985.

Seems that Walternate is a big fan of Violet Sedan Chair too.

He also is driving a Ford Taurus, which also exist in the alternate universe.

"Fringe" should have kept this scene in the episode "Over There, Part 2".



In Season 4 after time was reset, Peter in this universe (being at the bottom of Reiden Lake instead of being saved by September) also never caught that firefly.

The other child (Victoria Dimiro) did catch it and not go wandering off. Her father never had to go looking for her in his car, therefore never hitting and killing Roscoe's son Bobby Joyce in 1985 in this universe as well.

So Violet Sedan Chair should still be going strong today 'over here' as well.

(September preserved the White Tulip for Walter, taken from S3-EP10 "The Firefly", which was negated when the altered timelines came into reality, for S5-EP13 "An Enemy of Fate".)

The only people who remember things differently are Peter (now re-integrated into the revised timeline) and Olivia.

Clue: In S4-EP-5 "Novation", Malcolm Truss quietly sings "Seven Suns" from Violet Sedan Chair while working in his garden.
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