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Old 01-02-2017, 10:14 PM
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Soul Connection | Billy & Phyllis {Y&R} #2: "One day I'll get what I want most in this world. That's you."

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Old 01-02-2017, 11:03 PM
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Nice title and that last gifset in the OP.

I didn't even realise the first thread was at an end.
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Old 01-02-2017, 11:50 PM
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^ Obviously we were discussing a lot.

That was a great scene. One of the best last stuff we got between them.

Only great thing is that we know Billy didn't really move on from Phyllis. Or JT is making it seems that way. lol Phyllis wasn't rebound or anything, he really was in love with her.
Also, Phyllis CHOSE him.

So, doesn't matter what the new showrunners does, they can't change that...

I just wish they could still share friends scenes... or work their way back as friends.
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Only great thing is that we know Billy didn't really move on from Phyllis. Or JT is making it seems that way. lol Phyllis wasn't rebound or anything, he really was in love with her.
Also, Phyllis CHOSE him.

So, doesn't matter what the new showrunners does, they can't change that...
Exactly you and other fans at least have those positive things to hold onto.

Tbh I see this Villy reunion as a rebound from Philly and Tricky.
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The whole if you can't be with the one you love, love the one your with?
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Old 01-03-2017, 10:04 PM
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One thing I love is that the fans aren't giving up.
They are still tweeting, winning all the polls and sending letters to the magazine which actually gets published. It's how Gina Tognoni saw how strong the Philly fanbase it and retweeted some things.

Also, I agree with the editor for CBS Soaps in Depth Magazine






That's my issue, it's just unprofessional of Sally to just end it because she doesn't like it EVEN if she admitted she didn't even watch it??? WTF kind of sense does that make. She is just going by what she heard so hate it without seeing it get played out?? So, she didn't see their relationship but criticizes it.

This is the same woman who's responsible for creating Nick/Phyllis. And Sharon is suppose to be a character she likes. GTFO.


I don't think I would have been this upset if they got closure, but the way it was handled after everything I watched it ridiculous and it's why a lot of fans are rightfully upset through social media.



This was Phyllis reaction when she was FORCED to choose Jack over the person she loved in Billy.... and of course Billy was hurt and confused....
Then she went to her hotel room and cried and that's when she lied to Jack and told him she was ready to work on their marriage issues. When they hugged, she looked depressed.


Nice job at trying to get your viewers to forget that Y&R.
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Old 01-04-2017, 06:26 AM
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Y&R really wrote itself into a corner by going there with Phyllis/Billy because once it amassed the fanbase that it did there was no going back to the same old relationships. I hate what was done to Tricky (mainly Travis) but if he'd been sacrificed to engineer a Philly vs Villy triangle than I would have understood because all great SOAPs are built on triangles but nope they just want the same old stuff.
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Y&R really wrote itself into a corner by going there with Phyllis/Billy because once it amassed the fanbase that it did there was no going back to the same old relationships. I hate what was done to Tricky (mainly Travis) but if he'd been sacrificed to engineer a Philly vs Villy triangle than I would have understood because all great SOAPs are built on triangles but nope they just want the same old stuff.
I think that the issue was that they probably never expected JT and GT to have so much chemistry? So, that just made matters worst... on Y&R, this Billy has more chemistry with Phyllis than Victoria.
The previous Billy really didn't have much chemistry with anyone. lol Although that was actually the beginning of the Billy/Phyllis build up and I wanted to see if I'd like the chemistry. lol
For David Tom, it probably was with Mac.
For AM it definitely was Billy Miller... who AM said will always be here Billy Abbott. So, the writers should move on.


I agree though, it feels like Tricy and Philly both got destroyed for really no reason. Although I'd say Tricky got destroyed worst. At least with the Philly fans, we can say there are some lingering feelings. Especially with the look they shared at NYE.

I guess the good thing both fanbases can says is that Villy is the rebound here? lol
Victoria called Travis, "the one" and Billy was fantasizing about Phyllis when he was chatting with Victoria a few months ago. lolol And Jack referred to Phyllis as the love of Billy's life. BAM. lol
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I think that the issue was that they probably never expected JT and GT to have so much chemistry? So, that just made matters worst... on Y&R, this Billy has more chemistry with Phyllis than Victoria.
The previous Billy really didn't have much chemistry with anyone. lol Although that was actually the beginning of the Billy/Phyllis build up and I wanted to see if I'd like the chemistry. lol
For David Tom, it probably was with Mac.
For AM it definitely was Billy Miller... who AM said will always be here Billy Abbott. So, the writers should move on.


If they never expected JT/GT to have chemistry then they've only got themselves to blame because they finally had a actor who fit the role for the first time since BM. So of course it was possible there'd be chemistry to work with.

I wasn't aware she'd said that but I'm with AM on that BM will always be who I see as the real Billy especially for Victoria. Agreed! They need to move on from Villy and that's coming from myself whose not particulary a fan of Villy or Philly. I'm nuetral about each pairing.

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I guess the good thing both fanbases can says is that Villy is the rebound here? lol
Victoria called Travis, "the one" and Billy was fantasizing about Phyllis when he was chatting with Victoria a few months ago. lolol And Jack referred to Phyllis as the love of Billy's life. BAM. lol
Villy may have the long history but it doesn't change the last year of stories where they BOTH fell in love with other people that they were very much serious about to the point of wanting a future that could've (or in Tricky's case would have) included marriage. OMG Jack said that?! When?
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Gina and Jason really make it difficult for Philly fans.
New hair for Phyllis, same chemistry.





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If they never expected JT/GT to have chemistry then they've only got themselves to blame because they finally had a actor who fit the role for the first time since BM. So of course it was possible there'd be chemistry to work with.

I wasn't aware she'd said that but I'm with AM on that BM will always be who I see as the real Billy especially for Victoria. Agreed! They need to move on from Villy and that's coming from myself whose not particulary a fan of Villy or Philly. I'm nuetral about each pairing.
Agreed. Anytime is possible when you try different pairs. Right away JT and AM didn't have the chemistry. Which was why I was thankful they got split up early. Even if I didn't get why they got back together in the first place. Billy in the hospital so Victoria wants to be with him again...... forgetting why they split up in the first place. lol

Yup, AM said it in 2014... so she probably feels different now but I'm sure a lot of fans feel the same way....

"As an actress, I had never done anything like that, where a recast happened at the crescendo of the storyline. Billy comes in and falls through the door and it’s a different Billy Abbott!
"But nobody is ever going to replace Billy Miller in my heart. It’s the most fun I have ever had on a soap in my career." ~ Source

That was 2 years ago, so probably things changed but the Billy/Victoria relationship was best with BM and AM, and the showrunners can't try to force a change that's just not there....


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Villy may have the long history but it doesn't change the last year of stories where they BOTH fell in love with other people that they were very much serious about to the point of wanting a future that could've (or in Tricky's case would have) included marriage. OMG Jack said that?! When?
It sure doesn't and the writers can't just pretend it didn't happen, which is what they are doing.
Also, what I liked about the storyline BEFORE Sally returned is that Billy said he cheated on Victoria as well, and how he wanted Victoria/Travis to work... it seems like Sally also wants people to forget that Billy also cheated and that Victoria wanted to be single...
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Congrats to Gina getting a pre-nom to her amazing work last year. She must be a top contender for the win. Just to think at the last Emmy's GT/JT appeared together on the stage before Philly kicked off.
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Congrats to Gina getting a pre-nom to her amazing work last year. She must be a top contender for the win. Just to think at the last Emmy's GT/JT appeared together on the stage before Philly kicked off.
Yup! I'd love for both of them to win it! All Jason best acted scenes last year were definitely any with Phyllis. For Gina, the courtroom scene for sure.
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Yup! I'd love for both of them to win it! All Jason best acted scenes last year were definitely any with Phyllis. For Gina, the courtroom scene for sure.
Is JT nominated? I couldn't find his name on the pre-nominations list.
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Is JT nominated? I couldn't find his name on the pre-nominations list.
He is.
He can be nominated for Lead Actor. I think he should definitely get in when I saw the list...



IN other news. Now I'm going to catch up faster on Y&R. Billy/Phyllis kissed today. And I give Sally NOOO credit whatsoever.
I give the credit for the fans for speaking out on social media and through the magazine's each week and Mal Young who noticed from the beginning how great their scenes were together. Well... as far as them being actor partners.


However, I gotta see how the scene happened because it's going to be a tough time selling Victoria/Billy if they have Billy kissing Phyllis. As I said, and I'm sticking by, this is the first time Victoria will be the rebound for Billy if they get together. I'll debate anyone on it. lol



I found out because Gina retweeted something and I was curious and stumbled across it. lol





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I must be going blind because I swear I didn't see his name on the list when I read it.

OMG I saw pics of the kiss and was so confused thinking it was an old scene.
Then I came on here saw your post and realised it was a brand new. I'm not even a fan (though I could give it a proper shot of investing in with Jack out of the way) but that actually makes me want to check some episodes and see how this came about. I'm happy for you since you're a big fan and had been hoping for a revival of some sort for them.
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