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Old 04-10-2009, 04:48 PM
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Chuck Bass S&S # 170: Because some of these storylines need the Jack Bass treatment

The 170th Chuck Bass Spoiler and Speculation Thread






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Episode 2.21: Seder Anything
Airdate: 4/20/09
Writer: Amanda Lasher
Director: John Stephens
SERENA RETURNS FROM SPAIN — Serena (Blake Lively) returns from her trip to Spain with Poppy (guest star Tamara Feldman) and Gabriel (guest star Armie Hammer). Blair (Leighton Meester) makes a secret deal with Nate’s (Chace Crawford) grandfather, William (guest star James Naughton), and Nate learns some disturbing information about his father’s arrest. Dan (Penn Badgley) takes a job as a cater-waiter to earn money for college, but is distressed when he discovers the gig is a Passover seder at the Waldorf penthouse and several of his friends and family are guests. Taylor Momsen, Ed Westwick, Kelly Rutherford and Matthew Settle also star.

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Episode 2.22: Southern Men Prefer Blonds
Airdate: 4/27/09
Writer: Leila Gerstein
Director: Patrick Norris
GEORGINA IS BACK! — Georgina (guest star Michelle Trachtenberg, “17 Again”) returns to the Upper East Side after undergoing a major transformation. Chuck (Ed Westwick) and Nate (Chace Crawford) find themselves at a major crossroads in their relationship as it pertains to their mutual interest in Blair (Leighton Meester). Serena (Blake Lively) finds her relationship with Gabriel (guest star Armie Hammer) growing more complicated. Penn Badgley, Taylor Momsen, Jessica Szohr, Kelly Rutherford and Matthew Settle also star.

Chuck & Nate Argue

Chuck & Nate Argue (from a different angle)

Chuck & Nate Argue (angle number three)


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Episode 2.23: The Wrath of Con
Airdate: 5/04/09
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Episode 2.24: Valley Girls
Airdate: 5/11/09
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Episode 2.25: The Goodbye Gossip Girl
Airdate: 5/18/09
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CHUCK AND BLAIR CAUSE HEART PALPITATIONS
Mia made a picspam of the recent CB spoiler pics and you can find it here


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SPOILERS from E!Online's Kristin
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Gossip Girl: OMG, Nate and Blair!
It's true. As we teased in last week's Spoiler Chat, a core couple is reuniting on Gossip Girl. The just-released location photo above means that hot little kitty is debagged, and my sources confirm what your eyes are seeing: Gossip Girl's newest (old) hookup is Blair (Leighton Meester) and Nate (Chace Crawford). Gasp!

What does this mean for the epic romance that is Blair and Chuck (Ed Westwick)? And why the frak are Nate and Blair back to nooky anyway? I've got the exclusive scoop...

Sources tell me that unlike Blair and Chuck's deep adversarial passion, the renewed Blair and Nate coupling is about familiarity and comfort.

According to one insider, "Blair and Nate are both at a crossroads. Blair has to accept she isn't going to Yale. Nate is being sucked into his family's expectations, and they are both there for each other and enjoy the familiarity. At first it's platonic, but, of course, that doesn't last long."

Blate. Blah.

Still, don't worry, Bluck fans. Even though Nate and Blair are playing tonsil hockey for the time being, I have it on good authority that Blair and Chuck have not been forgotten. For that matter, Gossip Girl boss Josh Schwartz just told the Chicago Tribune's wonderful Mo Ryan, "We get that that [relationship] works for people."

So in the grand tradition of the Derena merry-go-round ("Dan Serena Dan Serena whoo!"), Chuck and Blair's time will come around again. But can you stand the wait? Will you watch between now and then? Post in the comments!

Did Georgina join A Cult?!

Exactly how outlandish do you have to be to stun and amaze Chuck Bass (Ed Westwick)?

Georgina Sparks is back on Gossip Girl, and when E! News caught up with her on the set, Michelle Trachtenberg revealed, "We're filming a scene that's actually the first time we see Georgina. She has a little run-in with Chuck Bass, who is in shock and awe at her new attire and getup and demeanor." Looky loos on the set spied a less-glamazony Georgina than the one we remember from last year—could she have been the victim of a tragic makeunder, or is something more extreme afoot?

Here's what we're hearing about Georgina's shocking transformation (watch out for spoilers), along with her relationships with ex-lover Dan and sworn enemy Blair...


According to our spies, the big Chuck-Georgina reunion happens in the park when Chuck comes upon a group of oddly dressed people at a log cabin. The assembled young people are all wearing T-shirts that read "OMJC," and one asks Chuck, "Are you a wayward soul in search of direction?" Right about then a hippie-looking, creepy, smiley and altogether weird-seeming Georgina pops up and asks if Chuck's been saved as well.

OMFG. (Or should that be OMJC?!)

Has G been brainwashed by a cult?

Michelle says, "I think there are definitely evil elements that Georgina can never leave behind, but you will be seeing a different, let's say reformed, side of Georgina."

Madness! Now, what will this mean for Georgina's relationships with the rest of the Upper East Siders? According to Michelle, "Georgina has some unfinished business with Blair (Leighton Meester), but how that's going to transpire, I'm not sure. Could be a handshake, could be a fistfight, could get wild and crazy, and seeing as how we left Dan (Penn Badgley) and Georgina, there were some crazy sparks a brewin'. I'm sure there will be fireworks."

G's ep count remains up in the air, but little-known fact: She's been lurking on set this whole time. Michelle teases, "I've actually been in all of them. I've been in the background of certain scenes, so I did about 25 episodes. It's become an Internet funsies game, spot the hidden Georgina. I'm totally kidding! I can't actually say how many episodes [I'll be in], but it will definitely be filled with a lot of fantastic, juicy details and elements."

Antonia in Miami: Please, I need some Gossip Girl scoop on Blair and Chuck! And good news, too. I'm tired of the bad news.
I can offer you a little good news about Chuck and Blair on Gossip Girl, but unfortunately it's just a setup for the bad news. Nate notices that Chuck and Blair have a major bond (yay!), but that leads him to respond/retaliate by asking Blair to move in with him (boo!). However, there will be some upcoming Chair scenes for you kiddos, because Mr. and Mrs. Marvelous join forces to investigate Serena's new man, whom they agree they both don't much like. At least it's something.

Belinda in Memphis, Tenn.: What's up with season three of Gossip Girl? Do we know anything yet?
I know that Blair gets into NYU and Nate gets into Columbia.

From Ask Ausiello:

[center]Question: I recently saw a photo of Nate and Blair kissing in an upcoming episode of Gossip Girl. What the hell?! We waited all season for Blair to get together with Chuck! Please say it won't last. -- Clare
Ausiello: Let's ask exec producer Stephanie Savage about that incriminating photo: "I think they look really cute together kissing in the snow." Um, let me take a different approach. What does the rekindled N and B romance mean for C and B? "Tell those Chuck and Blair fans to hang in there." That's better.

From Korbi:
- NB will end this season
- CB is top priority for season 3
- CV will continue for a bit
- CN will have a sweet story figuring out "the Blair of it all."



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I thought it was interesting how Nate warned Vanessa about Chuck making her do things she didn't really want to do in 2.20. That might say a lot about how he perceived CB when they happened. (But what does it say about how he views his supposedly best friend Chuck?)
Yes! This was the first sign I saw this season that Nate still held some misgivings about Chuck, or that he thought CB was anything less than love. It seems to me like it was the writers retconning a bit, so that they could pretend like Nate didn't think Blair and Chuck were
actually in love. Which is kind of the opposite of the rest of the season. In 1.18, 2.01 - 2.02 and 2.13, Nate made it pretty clear that he was aware and approved of CB's love.

Furthermore, I can't support the notion that Nate said he approved but didn't really believe it. The writers should know better than to have Chace say things that have layers of doubt in them, lol, because I don't think it translates well.
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Yeah, it is a fanwank but I find it easier to make sense of the recent GG events if I can rationalize where the characters are coming from.
But then how do you explain Nate treating Chuck the same way before CB happened?

I think it's like Rhona said. Lots of ppl hang out with ppl they don't like and don't find estimable because it does prop their own ego. And it's a habit, and being Chuck's friend is a comfortable place. Nate may not like him, but Chuck is like a papa bear, always protecting Natie-poo
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tbh I think it's a strech to say Nate is holding a grudge. Nate's behavior towards Chuck in 2.06 and this season as a whole was much like how he treated Chuck in early season 1 before CB happened. That last 2.06 scene was straight out of 1.04.

So I personally don't think Nate's behavior is linked to Blair at all. Just Nate regarding Chuck the way he always had, not as a friend but as scum.
Yeah I admit Nate's motivations are a fanwank, it's just my speculation so I don't expect everyone to agree. It's just like we pretty much fanwanked all of Chuck's motivations during the Elle and Vanessa SLs--there was even less to go on than Nate's reasons but it makes us feel better to reason out why he acted the way he did. So Nate is a similar thing for me, I like to see where characters are coming from (even if I have to make it up partly ).

Though I think Nate was different in 1.04 vs S2 (but admittedly that episode was so long ago I don't remember the details, and my perspective is probably skewed since back then I didn't think he was such an awful friend--terrible boyfriend yes, terrible friend not yet). Anyways, he came across as confused in 1.04 and frustrated with Chuck since he wanted to explore what he wanted (not go along with what Chuck had planned), but was thankful when Chuck helped him out. On the other hand, this season he shows no appreciation when Chuck tries to help him out and acts very condescending towards everything Chuck does.
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Yes! This was the first sign I saw this season that Nate still held some misgivings about Chuck, or that he thought CB was anything less than love. It seems to me like it was the writers retconning a bit, so that they could pretend like Nate didn't think Blair and Chuck were
actually in love. Which is kind of the opposite of the rest of the season. In 1.18, 2.01 - 2.02 and 2.13, Nate made it pretty clear that he was aware and approved of CB's love.

Furthermore, I can't support the notion that Nate said he approved but didn't really believe it. The writers should know better than to have Chace say things that have layers of doubt in them, lol, because I don't think it translates well.


I agree with that and it doesn't translate well at all plus normally people don't read this much into television, when the adverage person is watching a show they miss/skip episodes or forget what happens in episodes, a lot of people especially those who didn't watch season 1 will be so confused about Ca/Georgie/CBN
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Yes! This was the first sign I saw this season that Nate still held some misgivings about Chuck, or that he thought CB was anything less than love. It seems to me like it was the writers retconning a bit, so that they could pretend like Nate didn't think Blair and Chuck were
actually in love. Which is kind of the opposite of the rest of the season. In 1.18, 2.01 - 2.02 and 2.13, Nate made it pretty clear that he was aware and approved of CB's love.
Even though it would be retconning a lot, I could see them making Nate feel like this, especially considering I've heard people say Chuck manipulated Blair into thinking they were in love. (Yeah... I know.) Plus the writers seem to have no problems changing his feelings for other characters without any explanation (His treatment of Vanessa, his erratic feelings about Chuck, his on/off grudge toward Blair until recently, his mysteriously disappearing love for Serena, etc.) This problem has also happened to... basically every character on the show. So again, it wouldn't surprise me in the least.
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Anita: I want a papa-bear smackdown on Natiepoo of epic proportions And what would make it rock more than anything is if C said exactly what you've been saying - 'you've never been a friend to me, I'm just there for you and you find it convenient and I'm as sick of that as I am of you'. Now if we got something as honest as that and N took it, considered it, realised the truth of it and tried to make it work with him, I'd maybe get back onboard the bromance. Short of that, I want C to go all Mean Girls on him.
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Yes! This was the first sign I saw this season that Nate still held some misgivings about Chuck, or that he thought CB was anything less than love. It seems to me like it was the writers retconning a bit, so that they could pretend like Nate didn't think Blair and Chuck were
actually in love. Which is kind of the opposite of the rest of the season. In 1.18, 2.01 - 2.02 and 2.13, Nate made it pretty clear that he was aware and approved of CB's love.

Furthermore, I can't support the notion that Nate said he approved but didn't really believe it. The writers should know better than to have Chace say things that have layers of doubt in them, lol, because I don't think it translates well.
2.01-2.2 I can agree with but I think the writers tried to show Nate didn't understand the depth of BC's relationship "already" () in 2.13 with Nate trying to stop Blair going after Chuck and calling her "motherly" thus missing the point of her being in love with Chuck entirely.


At that last bolded part.
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Honestly I think the answer is simple. Nate never saw Chuck as a friend. Hence why it is so easy for him to ditch Chuck and run off with the first person that offers him something to hang on to. There is no need to fanwank at all, because this has been a very consistent concise pattern.

First it was Carter, then it was Dan, and now it's Blair.

Also notice how in 1.09 Chuck never scrolled to Chuck's name on his phone, only Serena and Blair. To him Chuck isn't a real friend.
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Even though it would be retconning a lot, I could see them making Nate feel like this, especially considering I've heard people say Chuck manipulated Blair into thinking they were in love. (Yeah... I know.) Plus the writers seem to have no problems changing his feelings for other characters without any explanation (His treatment of Vanessa, his erratic feelings about Chuck, his on/off grudge toward Blair until recently, his mysteriously disappearing love for Serena, etc.) This problem has also happened to... basically every character on the show. So again, it wouldn't surprise me in the least.
I agree.


Also they really need to clear up the whole C taking advantage of B thing to N because it really bothers me but w.e they won't.
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