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Old 10-14-2009, 04:02 PM
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Episode Discussion 5X04 - "Hopeless" (Airs October 14th)

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BAU track a pack of suspects who randomly murder their victims for the thrill of the kill.



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Old 10-14-2009, 04:11 PM
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I can't wait for this new episode tonight!

Could one of the mods please top this?

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ETA: Thanks for topping the thread Rihannon!

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Old 10-14-2009, 07:26 PM
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GAH. Loved Morgan/Garcia. LOVE. THEM. Garcia was totally jealous. Hee.

Everything else was kinda blah. I didn't really like the story this week 'cause I really didn't understand the motivations behind it. I mean where they abused as children...do they really just enjoy killing people? I guess that latter was supposed to be the reason, but it just wasn't enough for me.
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Old 10-14-2009, 07:32 PM
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I really loved this episode tonight, it was unpredictable, which I like.

Some shows have become predictable in their story lines, but CM is surprising still, and I like that.

About half way through the episode, I thought that this episode might end up being a 2 parter.

I enjoyed the conversation between Morgan and Garcia, even it seemed like she was jealous, I think she was really making sure that he wasn't getting too attached to the victims sister.

But based on the ending, I'm starting to wonder if their will be a romantic link between Morgan and Ms. Barnes.

Well all I have to say is bring it on! More jealous Garcia will be hot!

I missed not seeing a lot of Reid tonight though.

The bonding scene at the end with Rossi, Emily and Hotch all having a drink together leads me to believe that maybe Hotch has divulged some of his feelings about what has been going on with him to Emily, as they have been paired up in recent episodes.

My final thought has to do with the report/rumor of a CM spin-off. I have noticed certain things being mentioned in episodes, and it happened again tonight when Hotch made a comment along the lines of:

"DNA will take weeks and we don't have time for that..."

Plus, the fact that a body was found in a wall is something that a forensics team would take care of.

So in conclusion, if there were to be a CM spin-off, I believe it would be based on a unit in the FBI that deals with forensics and in turn helps the BAU with cases.

That's my two cents and another dollar!

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Old 10-14-2009, 07:33 PM
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An Unsub who enjoys killing just because? OMG, sounds like I'm gonna love the episode! <3 I'm tired of feeling bad for the Unsubs And I like when there isn't much to them other than them just being cruel people, I think the lack of 'motivation' and/or undertones makes it all even scarier.

Thanks for opening the thread, Melika
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Old 10-14-2009, 07:35 PM
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You're welcome Ana!
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Old 10-14-2009, 08:08 PM
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Sounds like an awesome episode!!! I can't wait to watch. thanks for the review Melika!
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Old 10-14-2009, 08:14 PM
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You're welcome. I can't wait to see what everyone else thought.
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Old 10-14-2009, 08:26 PM
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I'll be posting later today, since it is only 4.30am
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Old 10-14-2009, 08:32 PM
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Can't wait.

It's 8:30PM here and I'm off to have a bath and watch a movie!

Enjoy the episode if you haven't already seen it!
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:27 PM
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Those unsubs freaked me out! I think the writers noticed we were feeling bad for the unsubs, so they decided to bring some completely nutcases with no chance of redemption.

It was great to see Wade Williams guest starring. Made me miss Prison Break.

Finally some Morgan and Garcia! I missed more of them... I think she was concerned about him getting too involved, but also there was jealousy, definitely.

Loved Hotch's decision by the end. The team's work was done. There was no reason to be a part of what would happen next. First, Morgan thought Hotch was crazy for stepping up and going after the unsubs, now he thinks Hotch is not at the top of his game because he decided to leave? Can't get him...

I love how Rossi reads every action of Hotch and supports all of them. His line to Morgan was amazing:
You've got at least two dozen cops, all looking for revenge. You've got two psycopaths inside, ready to play out their fantasy end. You wanna take your shot? Take it. Our job is done.

Loved Emily, Hotch and Rossi drinking scotch by the end. They are really close
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:46 PM
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I was totally thinking of "Bellick" when I saw Wade's name in the opening credits.

I agree about your statement regarding Morgan and Garcia, it was sort of sweet too when she answered the phone and was like "Are we good?"

Rossi's statement to Morgan was great, and from the look of it, Morgan didn't participate in the final capture, he just stood there soaking in what Rossi said.

The final scene with those three drinking together was great, I like that there is obviously more of a connection with Hotch and Prentiss.
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I didn't really like the story this week 'cause I really didn't understand the motivations behind it. I mean where they abused as children...do they really just enjoy killing people?
I think that was the whole point of it. They were anger-driven people, they just enjoyed it. I think Hotch said at one point, that there were no real motives behind there actions, they just enjoyed violence and loved to relive their crimes.
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Old 10-15-2009, 11:13 AM
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So I watched, and I loved it!

First, the unsubs, I didn't have the need to feel bad about them; they were just crazy SOB that I was able to hate from the beginning to the very end. My favourite kind of episode. I also loved that they were just sick, nothing behind them to make them who they were.

MG was really cute! After watching, I think she was more concerned about him getting to far with the woman, but she was also slightly jealous and that made me happy

Okay, so I have to sadly admit I did not like Morgan this episode; and I think he is getting a little annoying. One scene he is amazing, and the other he is saying something completely horrible about Hotch. I think he should know his boss better by now and he should have read into the behaviour. I blame the writers

Rossi was just, as usual, supportive and great. He really knows his friend too well, and he stands by him no matter what. *wanna hug daddy!Rossi*

And of course, Emily just for being on the show she has points with me, but she was so great. The scene where they are walking away and the one drinking in Hotch's office, well... it was great, imo. They are getting closer and closer, and of course I love it

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I like that there is obviously more of a connection with Hotch and Prentiss.
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