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Old 02-20-2012, 01:37 PM
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Blair Waldorf Episode Discussion: 5.16 "Cross Rhodes"

EPISODE 5x16: Cross Rhodes
Airing: February 20, 2012 at 8PM ET/7PM CT



DAN'S BOOK IS SHOWCASED BY UPRIGHT CITIZEN'S BRIGADE - Dan feels honored when he learns that Upright Citizen's Brigade is performing excerpts from his book, Inside. Blair tries to prove Serena's suspicions wrong in order to save their friendship. On her way out of town, Ivy ends up on a collision course with the van der Woodsens. Chace Crawford, Ed Westwick, Kelly Rutherford and Matthew Settle also star. John Terlesky directed the episode written by Amy B. Harris.


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Old 02-20-2012, 08:01 PM
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I'm just linking to the past two eps, for Gloria and anyone else who cares to read.

I love Blair. I'm not happy. And I'd rather not "talk" about her. It'd end up a fight, and I don't even care.

And my Valentine is... Georgina Sparks! ♥ [5x15]
RIP Cece Rhodes and the ratings for this show. [5x16]
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:14 PM
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Thanks Gloria

Well this was a strange episode. I'm between liking it and just thinking it was okay.

I really do like Chuck with Alessandra. I think she really likes him

I still don't understand why Serena was still at Blair's if she's so mad at her. I get that Blair feels guilty, but if someone is staying in my house and shoving me around they better be looking for somewhere else to go.

I thought it was funny how Dan kept trying to make Blair go home/go away, yet she wouldn't listen.

They way they sent off CeCe was terrible. She's be in and out the show since season 1, they could have given her some meaningful lines at least.

I felt bad for Ivy. He hair looked awful.
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People have had worse send offs/deaths..people who were around since S1. Like they care.

I can't seem to have any feelings for Ivy. But I'm ready for her to team up with Georgie!!!
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:30 PM
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Loved tonight's eppy. So proud of both Serena and Blair for being honest with one another. Didn't expect S to give her blessing but I'm glad she did.

DB were cute, as I expected they would be. Can't wait to see what happens next with them.

Wasn't the least bit surprised by what Chuck did to Dan but was pleased that he fixed it in the end. Maybe he is changing after all, though based on the promo for next week, I doubt it.

I'm back to believing there's more to the story than only Dan sent the video. I think we'll find out next week and when we do, C and G are in for it.
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:51 PM
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^ I haven't watched the ep yet but I was never convinced Dan sent it. I think he could be covering for either Eleanor or Rufus.
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Old 02-20-2012, 10:03 PM
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Serena didn't start off good with the bumping in the bathroom thing. That even more made it look ridiculous as to why she was still living there. However in the middle and the end, she did look good. She's not thrilled, but she's also not going to go 'Chuck' on them and be an obstacle or hurt them.

Blair also chose Serena irrevocably. She said she wasn't in denial anymore and still nothing was going to happen because Serena came first. She then stayed with her to prove it.


Blair's reaction to the play, to Lola. to finding out Lola was Serena's cousin was so good. Her trying to hold Dan's hand and his reaction.

The kiss in the hall to Dan was random though especially considering Blair's still married with a dowry over her. Princess Blair with covers of papers and paparazzi watching her would be more private and discrete? The writers need to decide whether she's this media magnet or not, because it doesn't make sense having her be one in one episode and not one after it.


There's nothing powerful about you right now, there's nothing powerful about you when you're near Charlie Travers.


Love that they have bookSerena point this out to bookBlair. If only realSerena would point this out to realBlair. Or anyone pointing this out to real Blair or real Blair realizing it herself. She knows it, she has pockets of knowing it and then it disappears. Not only was this pointed out but then they follow up with Dan being at Blair's essay awards and being the only one to show up. There she is, winning an award for her school work (a non weak thing) and the only person who cares to show up and support her is Dan. Which he does without her even knowing.


Blair's kissing Dan and saying something about waiting for Chuck. Chuck sleeps with Alessandra in a scheme to hurt Dan and "I thought you wanted me to wait for you." What exactly is these people's idea of "waiting?"

One of the best parts, Blair telling Lola to ignore her freshman year of college.
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Old 02-21-2012, 02:01 AM
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K that disturbed me too. C knows B wants him to wait and he goes and SLEEP with other women???? Seriously C needs to study how Dan's doing it because everything he does pisses me off and is disrespectful of Blair.

Dan him this episode. I think he reached his breaking point. Not afraid to want things and claim them. They way he sends B home and then goes in a deep kiss with her, the way he speaks to Chuck. He is FIERCE and knows what he wants. I love it. Adored him trying to entice B with "I'm gonna go home" at the hospital as if she would go with him and have hot wild sex when cece's in the hospital...boys

B finally admitted her feelings and she was cute and she put C in his place and she still prioritised S. My only concern is her loving Dan back because the play makes her realize he's there for her. I hope they show more in depth why she loves him when they tell their feelings to each other. Despite that I really liked they assimilated B wanting to be powerful with Dan's support and her being weak with her proximity to Charlie trout.

last but not least, S was amazing. Not that I didn't know she would have to accept DB. Been saying it since day1. It was a necessary step of her redemption. For the first time I really felt she was doing something selfless and good. BEtter late than never! I'm a bit surprised it was so fast but then this episode had a LOT of stuff going on.
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There she is, winning an award for her school work (a non weak thing) and the only person who cares to show up and support her is Dan. Which he does without her even knowing.
This ep was just full of retcons Seriously, if they wanted to write this new 'show' they should have written a new show, not destroyed everything that was built in the original GG, it is pathetic

I feel so sorry for Blair atm, she recently had a miscarriage which never existed, is currently stuck in a loveless marriage which no one is shaking her out of and is SO lost. Come back to me soon Blair What makes me even sadder is how many people, for whom Blair was the reason they watched GG, have given up on her/the show. It makes me hate the writers SO MUCH
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I didn't like anything about this episode. I think I'm going to take a break from Gossip Girl until the real Blair Waldorf will return. She used to be my favourite character. Now I don't even recognize her anymore. I think, the fact that I was team S all throughout the episode, says it all.

That's all I am going to say about this episode. I'm gonna stop watching until they hire some better writers, I guess.
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you girls can't write B not doing what you want aka going back to C (who btw conscious of the fact B wants him to wait is having sex with someone else) as her not being herself.
She's just as much herself as ever. She's denying her own feelings, as usual, although admitting them faster than she did in the past. She's still putting S above her own feelings.
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I feel so sorry for Blair atm, she recently had a miscarriage which never existed, is currently stuck in a loveless marriage which no one is shaking her out of
Dan did though. By telling her not to marry Louis and sending the video of doom.
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Old 02-21-2012, 03:38 AM
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loved DB & SB

but gotta agree with Carina today
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You guys. I have watched Dan and Blair kiss a ridic number of times. He loves her so much! She loves everybody in NYC! Who cares!
Really bothered with Blair & 3 men crap going this season. & at the same time!
It could be better if they gave her a break between feelings for these 3 men. I really want her to be single. even more than DB.


& ITA to this quote
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Blair's kissing Dan and saying something about waiting for Chuck. Chuck sleeps with Alessandra in a scheme to hurt Dan and "I thought you wanted me to wait for you." What exactly is these people's idea of "waiting?"
it was just a joke really

& 'forget her freshman year' line was ACES!

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Despite that I really liked they assimilated B wanting to be powerful with Dan's support and her being weak with her proximity to Charlie trout.
that was amazing
seems she finally gonna break free from the hold Chuck had on her for soo long!

no wonder ppl say she's 'not herself'
She was always all about CHuck Chuck Chuck! I approve of her being THIS Blair
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you girls can't write B not doing what you want aka going back to C (who btw conscious of the fact B wants him to wait is having sex with someone else) as her not being herself.
She's just as much herself as ever. She's denying her own feelings, as usual, although admitting them faster than she did in the past. She's still putting S above her own feelings.


Dan did though. By telling her not to marry Louis and sending the video of doom.
I dont post anymore because I cant really ship after what they did to CB and I dont trust the writers enough to be invested on the show.

But to me BW died in S3 when she accepted to prostitute herself for a hotel, when she forgave again and again, even being almost hit. I found B not being herself when she sacrified an awesome internship to be with C. That was pathetic and it wasnt love. Love asks for respect and support.
I found disrespectful when she accpeted to run away pregnant, without caring for the father of the baby, even if she didnt love him, when she didnt mourn the baby.

Now, I dont find that horrible to her character starting to have some feelings for a guy that was her friend and supported her. She even put first S.
I agree that she should be single, but this isnt the worst thing that happened to her character.
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^^^^I sooo love this post! sorry I forgot your name Let me marry this post!!!!!
Ha I just thought EXACTLY about this while writing in the rant thread.


to me its not the ships & pairings that make her not the person I would root for but the actions like this
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this so much! no matter how epic it seemed to her it was truly awful!
but yeah Louis is a guest star so no one apparently should care about this yeah

this writers only care about bones to shipper groups that all...
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I dont post anymore because I cant really ship after what they did to CB and I dont trust the writers enough to be invested on the show.

But to me BW died in S3 when she accepted to prostitute herself for a hotel, when she forgave again and again, even being almost hit. I found B not being herself when she sacrified an awesome internship to be with C. That was pathetic and it wasnt love. Love asks for respect and support.
I found disrespectful when she accpeted to run away pregnant, without caring for the father of the baby, even if she didnt love him, when she didnt mourn the baby.

Now, I dont find that horrible to her character starting to have some feelings for a guy that was her friend and supported her. She even put first S.
I agree that she should be single, but this isnt the worst thing that happened to her character.
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