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Old 02-19-2012, 05:01 AM
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I think Dan's motivations on sending that video were crystal clear. He didn't want Blair to get married and he knew she couldn't go back to Chuck because of the pact. So when he found that video (doesn't matter how he did, but he did) it was perfect. He just had to send it. It would stop Blair's marriage and Chuck would be blamed for it. Only, it never stopped Blair from marrying Louis. Dan was never good at scheming. But I don't see what's not to understand. Dan had all the reasons to send that video. He wanted to get rid of the competition, both Chuck and Louis, and if his scheme had worked, he would have gotten rid of them both with only one action... sending in that video.
the pact is voided by sending the video (Dan takes it on himself to free B from her wedding without her having to break her pact but taking away the Louis part frees Blair so she definitely could've gone back to C). And D knew this. I think like he did before, he wants Blair to be happy and he knew she was marrying someone she didn't love. He couldn't let that happen.
It's a bit too convenient to write off D bringing C to Blair when he thought that was what she wanted
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The weird thing is that he asked Blair about her feelings for Louis in this week's ep almost as if he didn't know. How can he not know after 5x13 and 5x14? I hate how these writers don't always think when they write the dialogue.
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Old 02-19-2012, 05:24 AM
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I think he was just asking confirmation. She didn't say why she was going back to Louis even though he knew Louis had changed and been awful, he wasn't sure why she went back to him since he didn't know about the dowry
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That makes sense.
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Old 02-19-2012, 07:44 PM
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the pact is voided by sending the video (Dan takes it on himself to free B from her wedding without her having to break her pact but taking away the Louis part frees Blair so she definitely could've gone back to C). And D knew this. I think like he did before, he wants Blair to be happy and he knew she was marrying someone she didn't love. He couldn't let that happen.
It's a bit too convenient to write off D bringing C to Blair when he thought that was what she wanted
Then why write the vows? If he knew the marriage was such a big mistake then why aid Louis in deceiving Blair. If we go with the argument that all he wanted was to help Blair out and end the wedding for her own good then why wait til the day of. Why not be a good friend earlier and come clean about those vows. Also how would sending that video end the pact? What constitutes ending this pact with god!? (Can't believe I'm even asking that lol) Would Louis not loving Blair be the end of it? Louis leaving Blair? IDK. Did Dan really think Blair would go running back to Chuck if she thought he had sent the video? Past shows that Chuck scheming behind Blair's back has been a deal breaker time and time again. Also after the video was sent what was Blair's motivation for getting married with Louis if the pact was void? What was her motivation for begging him to take her back? I don't really expect any answers, I just don't get it. There's too many plot holes mixed with the most ridiculous of storylines. Dan sending the video out of the pureness of his heart, with no ulterior motives as simple as it would be, I definitely don't see it. He wouldn't have a need to "deflect" and try so hard to hide the fact that he sent it if his intentions were pure. If he sees Blair as a good friend and Blair does the same then him coming clean and telling her the truth wouldn't be the end of them. Specially if he only did it to help her.

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I don't think Dan's on a pedestal. He's still Dan from Brooklyn and Blair get mad at him a lot. She doesn't have amnesia. He's still the same Dan that messed up her birthday party and plotted against her at 'W'. However that makes him the same Dan that took full responsibility when they were both fired a 'W' and got her job back for her.

He's human with her. He messes up but he also supports her so much too. Which why it's good they fight and good she gets mad at him a lot, that's how she should be instead of repressive and a doormat just taking how badly a man treats her and running back constantly with no fight in her.
I definitely know he's not perfect but Blair does seem to be putting him in some sort of pedestal, as far as she's concerned he's being the best person to her. "How could Serena not love you?"... umh...
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Because he wrote the vows before he heard B declare her love for C ON HER WEDDING DAY... Prior to that scene, Blair had been repeating to his several attempts to get her to not marry Louis by saying she was 100% committed to him. I guess he wanted to make a bad day more romantic for her. Was he supposed to know B would find them before the wedding and it would make her want to marry Louis? NO

And yeah I think Dan would have reasonably believed that sending the video would prevent the wedding and prevent Blair from being trapped in her marriage. It's not 100% brave he could've interrupted when the priest asked. Then again, B would've hated him and C was just as much of a coward (if not more considering he had more incentive to).

And I guess D just wanted to take the choice off of B's hands. no one believes in the pact but Blair (and everyone knows it's wrong, S did her own scheming to prevent Blair from going through with it which I haven't been mad at because between helping Blair not marry someone she doesn't love and letting her go through with it, I think the second option is the evil one.), if you take away her choice to go through with this: you're the one breaking the pact not Blair.

However, a lot of things don't make sense due to the fact that the wedding should've never been dragged that much. B didn't love Louis all the reasons that led to the wedding were wrong.

And Glo last but not least, no matter what is your shipping perspective. Dan IS the best person for Blair as of right now. that is the very point of their love story at least for Blair : No one has ever treated her as respectfully and as selflessly as he does. With her, he is the most selfless (CB reunion, no confession of his feelings), the most concerned with her happiness (telling her not to marry Louis, CB reunion), the most supportive (when she sees C with his "sacred" Raina), the one who forces her to be honest (paternity test)... It's not a coincidence she's been running back to him all the time in S5, if you view it as one and don't think C and S deserve what is happening to them right now, you will be surprised by a lot of stuff I suppose.
And what does it matter really? CBers still love CB despite all the things C has done that were the worst things ever on this show. Surely, Dan being right or wrong (imo right tbh. I really hope he did) sending that video isn't supposed to turn us off?
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Then why write the vows? If he knew the marriage was such a big mistake then why aid Louis in deceiving Blair. If we go with the argument that all he wanted was to help Blair out and end the wedding for her own good then why wait til the day of. Why not be a good friend earlier and come clean about those vows. Also how would sending that video end the pact? What constitutes ending this pact with god!? (Can't believe I'm even asking that lol) Would Louis not loving Blair be the end of it? Louis leaving Blair? IDK. Did Dan really think Blair would go running back to Chuck if she thought he had sent the video? Past shows that Chuck scheming behind Blair's back has been a deal breaker time and time again. Also after the video was sent what was Blair's motivation for getting married with Louis if the pact was void? What was her motivation for begging him to take her back? I don't really expect any answers, I just don't get it. There's too many plot holes mixed with the most ridiculous of storylines. Dan sending the video out of the pureness of his heart, with no ulterior motives as simple as it would be, I definitely don't see it. He wouldn't have a need to "deflect" and try so hard to hide the fact that he sent it if his intentions were pure. If he sees Blair as a good friend and Blair does the same then him coming clean and telling her the truth wouldn't be the end of them. Specially if he only did it to help her.


I definitely know he's not perfect but Blair does seem to be putting him in some sort of pedestal, as far as she's concerned he's being the best person to her. "How could Serena not love you?"... umh...
I think the reason Blair still married Louis after the video came out was because even though she says Chuck has changed she doesn't truly believe it. She told Chuck that she made the pact to save his life knowing that he would continue destroying her life. Just because Blair has forgiven Chuck for all the crap he's done doesn't mean she has forgotten. How do you get over being prostituted and physically assaulted and emotionally hurt repeatedly. The pain she felt will always be at the back of her mind. With Louis Blair didn't think she would ever get hurt. So basically she was making the choice that would ensure she'd never be hurt again because all she wants is to be happy. She has been miserable at times with Chuck and there's no guarantee that he'll stay changed.

I rewatched the Dair scenes and I'm starting to think Dan sent the vid. In the car he asks Blair if she ran away because of Chuck. My interpretation is that he was expecting Blair to run to Chuck like in 5x10 so he was really surprised when she didn't. And he couldn't exactly come clean because she would have been pissed and he wouldn't have been able to help her. He was being a bit selfish by wanting to save Blair. But Dan's not perfect.

And Blair saying 'How could Serena not love you?' was a tv trope used to launch the DB storyline. Blair needed to realize that Dan is a pretty awesome guy that any girl would be lucky to have so that she can develop feelings for him. I don't think she puts him on a pedastal. She gets more mad at him when he screws up then with others so she actually judges him more harshly.
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And Glo last but not least, no matter what is your shipping perspective. Dan IS the best person for Blair as of right now. that is the very point of their love story at least for Blair : No one has ever treated her as respectfully and as selflessly as he does. With her, he is the most selfless (CB reunion, no confession of his feelings), the most concerned with her happiness (telling her not to marry Louis, CB reunion), the most supportive (when she sees C with his "sacred" Raina), the one who forces her to be honest (paternity test)... It's not a coincidence she's been running back to him all the time in S5, if you view it as one and don't think C and S deserve what is happening to them right now, you will be surprised by a lot of stuff I suppose.
And what does it matter really? CBers still love CB despite all the things C has done that were the worst things ever on this show. Surely, Dan being right or wrong (imo right tbh. I really hope he did) sending that video isn't supposed to turn us off?
I have no intention of turning anyone off or changing anyone's mind, it's purely my view. The writing leaves LOTS of room for interpretation and plenty of unanswered questions. It's kinda frustrating to keep up and I should stop thinking too hard about this show. I'm working on that...
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And Blair saying 'How could Serena not love you?' was a tv trope used to launch the DB storyline. Blair needed to realize that Dan is a pretty awesome guy that any girl would be lucky to have so that she can develop feelings for him. I don't think she puts him on a pedastal. She gets more mad at him when he screws up then with others so she actually judges him more harshly.
I just pointed that out because if SB were actually communicating. Blair would know that Dan is the complete opposite to Serena.
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