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Old 05-08-2008, 07:06 PM
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Cross-posted from my LJ and the Office board

Okay, this was no 'Beach Games' but I just loved it and I am SO excited for next week! I'm half-dead from exhaustion right now and yet, I'm totally keyed up from this episode. That hasn't happened in a long, long time.

Oh, where to start?! First, I love that Michael is branching out in his jeans collection to include hip, baggy ones. Fabulous! The unlikely team of Darryl, Oscar, Pam and Michael totally cracked me up, though I was expecting more out of Darryl. His "Fluffy Fingers" bit last week just got me primed for Darryl awesomeness.

I totally called the end of Jim's TH as he was doing it. I really, really loved it though because it confirmed what I've been saying for the last few days. Jim needs money to pay for a wedding and he'll do anything he has to do it. We also got a little more insight into Jim's conception of his relationship with Pam, which I find really fascinating. I was always worried that he had put Pam on a pedestal and that would make it hard for them. But instead it seems like he's demanding perfection from himself or at least, he doesn't want to fail Pam, fail to provide for her. Which on one hand is adorable, but on the other hand I really want him to be confident enough to say to Pam, "hey, yeah, it's not going as well as I would have hoped, but I'm going to keep at it" so she can say, "I know you can do it and I love you." However, the phone convo they DID have was adorable and made me smile till my cheeks hurt. Jim saying "I like you" ranks up there on my favorite Jim sayings now.

I was really hoping for more Dwight/Angela action when everyone else in the office left. In fact, as it went to commercial, I thought that the Pam jumping around scene was her coming back to the office for more paper and seeing them together. Even when they left, I was holding out hope for something - a touch, a hug, a kiss, a something - but nada. As Stanley would say, "women say more in their pauses," so perhaps there is more there than meets the eye at first. I'm still holding out hope.

Andy on the golf course made me laugh so hard! It was all the Andy-isms all in one place - the Dartmouth shirt, the blisters from trying too hard, the racing so he could win something and then crashing the golf cart in the sand trap. Loved it! I know why Jim brought him, but he's really good in small doses and Jim should know better. Kevin was fantastic as well! Him betting was the icing on a fabulous cake - memories of Safety Training B plot (which I LOVED!) and it was amazing.

I completely LOVED Jim FINALLY, FINALLY, never giving up, not letting life beat him down and getting what he needs to make his dreams come true. Sure enough, he's doing it to sell paper, but really he's doing it to marry Pam and that just makes me smile. I loved that stood in front of the guy's car and got the deal. Good job Jim!

I was screaming at the TV when Michael started to make a move for the microphone. Michael + mic = always disaster! Except this time it didn't seem so bad. It was hard to see him defeated like that - to see him sorta realize how other people see his job. I really loved his last TH at the end where he was inspired by Jim a bit. That line about Jim being able to do anything he wanted, but being there to sell paper really tugged at my heart a bit.

And really, there are no words for how happy that last Jim/Pam scene made me! I love how happy she is for him and how she doesn't even think to hide it until after the fact. Their handshake was precious, but I'm glad Jim just grabbed her back and kissed the hell out of her. Michael's smile warmed my heart because it seemed almost paternal. At the end of a really crappy day, he can look at Jim and Pam and know that maybe it's all worth it. Of course, then it got creepy, but I'll just ignore that part. I didn't get an "I love you" out of Pam, but that was a pretty good "Pam moment" nonetheless.

And the tag! Oh, Pam, I'm so excited for her - that she's even thinking in that direction. I really hope this goes somewhere and isn't used to be a catalyst to shove her and Jim apart. I hope the hug in the promo is her acceptance to one of those programs in Philly or NYC - because Jim would follow her anywhere. I hope she knows that.
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Old 05-08-2008, 07:34 PM
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Not to sound evil, but I was a little conflicted about Jim landing the client or not. A part of me wanted him to land it but a part of me didn't. Granted Jim had gotten a little beaten down lately (sort of) but without even trying look at all he has managed to achieve at work. Now he tries/puts effort into it and lands super client in one day. A tad annoying. But, then I tend not to be as into the "perfect/good, etc." characters. I'm more into seeing Jim have to dig a little deeper and do some soul searching. So, yeah, I would have been just as happy if he didn't land the client. But, like I said.............what I did love about this ep is that we finally got some insight into Jim and what he has been thinking. I do love that he's thinking about Pam and their future and wanting to take care of her and be a provider, etc. I know I'm in the minority, but just like I don't like a girl to be all about a guy, I don't like a guy to be all about a girl. I'd still like to know what Jim wants outside of Pam.

I didn't love this episode but it had it's moments.
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Old 05-09-2008, 09:01 AM
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I don't think you sound evil, Mel. And I totally get what you are saying.

I do disagree a little with the assumption that things always go Jim's way. Perhaps with clients, he doesn't have any trouble (that we've really seen) closing the deal, but I enjoyed watching him actually have to go after it. If it had been me and the client said right up front that he wasn't looking to switch and just wanted to play golf to get out of the office, I would have been super pissed that he was wasting my time and probably gone pretty bitter from there for the rest of the day. So yeah, probably why Jim's better suited to sales than me.

I also agree that I could have gone either way on him actually getting the client. But at the same time, with the recent events of Toby sexually harassing Pam in front of him and then getting put on probation by Ryan, failing at getting this sale that he believes will continue to secure his job and keep him on the path to planning for the future with Pam would probably just crush him. And I don't like to watch Emo!Jim, especially at the end of a season - too season 2 (in a bad way) to me.

I do want Jim to find some kind of direction, some career that he's actually interested in instead of one he just happens to be good at. But at the same time, I think I'm finally beginning to understand what John was saying about Jim in that Men's Health article. Jim's one of those guys who doesn't really care what he does for a living as long as he can come home to his family, hang out with his friends and just relax on the couch with a beer at the end of the day. He'd actually be just as happy to support Pam through graphic design school as he would coaching middle school basketball or teaching English or whatever it is that Jim's actually good at.

I think Michael was spot on last night in his last TH. Jim is a guy who can do anything he wants and he CHOOSES to sell paper. I think in the beginning, Jim just did the job because it was a job and he was in love with Pam ("if this were my career, I'd throw myself in front of a train."). But nowadays, watching him, I think he's come to terms with what he does for a living. He may not have a glamorous or sexy career, but he makes good money, can basically goof around at work all day (or at least until recently), spend time with the love of his life, the boss idolizes him to the point where Jim can basically manipulate Michael into doing anything he wants (though he usually doesn't use this power), etc.

I think at this point, I'm kinda rambling, but I think you get my point. Of course, the season finale could blow this whole theory out of the water, but for now, I think Jim is actually pretty content with who he is and what he has to do in order to get what he wants.
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Old 05-09-2008, 06:28 PM
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I'm glad you got where I was coming from a bit. I know it seems like I pick at Jim and Jim/Pam a bit sometimes, but it's only because I care.

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Jim's one of those guys who doesn't really care what he does for a living as long as he can come home to his family, hang out with his friends and just relax on the couch with a beer at the end of the day. He'd actually be just as happy to support Pam through graphic design school as he would coaching middle school basketball or teaching English or whatever it is that Jim's actually good at.
I can see that and I'm totally fine with that. Nothing wrong with that at all. I guess it just bugs me that we've heard Jim say time and time again that he doesn't care about DM and what a boring job it is, etc. which would lead me to believe he has thoughts about other things. But, then again maybe not. Who doesn't complain about their job?

And like I said I love that Jim is thinking of Pam and their future, etc. And again there's nothing wrong with Pam being his sole motivation for deciding to actually try at work now, etc. It just worries me a bit for a few reasons. Just like Jim would support Pam, I'm sure Pam would support Jim. It reminded me of the Philly Jim thing...........Pam really wanted to know about this second life and guitar playing, sports writing Jim, but Jim was quick to brush it off and didn't open up. I know it was just a game but it seems like there was more there with things that he had obviously thought about doing.

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I think Michael was spot on last night in his last TH. Jim is a guy who can do anything he wants and he CHOOSES to sell paper.
I liked that line alot. It was very interesting. I've always thought that Jim would at some point come to terms and make the choice that DM was a career for him. I'm at peace with that if Jim is.

Yeah, who knows what we're in for in the finale. I'm nervous. I keep going back in forth in my mind about Jim and about Pam and about the two of them.
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Old 05-10-2008, 07:13 AM
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I can see that and I'm totally fine with that. Nothing wrong with that at all. I guess it just bugs me that we've heard Jim say time and time again that he doesn't care about DM and what a boring job it is, etc. which would lead me to believe he has thoughts about other things. But, then again maybe not. Who doesn't complain about their job?
I think maybe some of those comments in the past may have had something to do with the whole compounding factor. When the girl you are in love with isn't with you and you still live with a roommate and your boss is Michael, I think you may be down about selling paper than on other days. And maybe what we've seen (and kinda missed because of the strike) is that Jim's growing up some. The things you bitch about when you are 24/25 are not the things you bitch about when you are 28. And if he's happy in his personal life, maybe selling paper all day, sitting across from his girlfriend is quite as soul-sucking as it had been in the past.
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And like I said I love that Jim is thinking of Pam and their future, etc. And again there's nothing wrong with Pam being his sole motivation for deciding to actually try at work now, etc. It just worries me a bit for a few reasons. Just like Jim would support Pam, I'm sure Pam would support Jim. It reminded me of the Philly Jim thing...........Pam really wanted to know about this second life and guitar playing, sports writing Jim, but Jim was quick to brush it off and didn't open up. I know it was just a game but it seems like there was more there with things that he had obviously thought about doing.
Well, I want to think that once they got home that night, Pam pressed him a little bit more about "Philly!Jim." But I can kinda see Jim's POV on that one too. If I was making up a fantasy character of myself, I'd probably not make myself an assistant at a medical school in Jersey like I currently am (I'd be a writer in Cali who sings in a jazz club at night - and I'm making one of those things come true this summer). That's not to say that I'm upset with what I do (well, I hate the Jersey part, but again, changing that soon), just that in a fantasy world I'd choose something else. Jim's Second Life av is attainable, so perhaps that's what he really dreams of.

But the more I watch, the more I think Jim is just one of those traditionalist guys who wants to support his partner and be the breadwinner. Pam would have to do a lot of convincing to get him out of his bubble and try something. Since Pam needs her own convincing to try new things, I'm not sure I see that happening. But I don't see Jim regretting not trying to be a sports writer because I think he'd really be happy either way.
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I've always thought that Jim would at some point come to terms and make the choice that DM was a career for him. I'm at peace with that if Jim is.

Yeah, who knows what we're in for in the finale. I'm nervous. I keep going back in forth in my mind about Jim and about Pam and about the two of them.
I'd really like to actually hear him say that - though maybe that's what he was saying with his "try" TH this week. I hate having to infer what's going on inside both him and Pam's mind and the conversations I hope they are having.

And yeah, the finale is such a wild card right now. I don't know that I've ever had such trepidation going into a finale and not really knowing what to expect. I know that the writers love these characters (and so do the actors who play them), so I can't imagine them going the way of Meredith and Derek (on "Grey's Anatomy") in the finale, but I'm just really anxious about what lays in store for them.
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After the last couple episodes I found the cold open for the finale interesting.

I agree, things do change as you get older or as things change in your life. Your priorities shift, etc. And it definitely makes sense to me that Jim would be thinking a bit differently now that he and Pam are together and he's thinking marriage.

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I hate having to infer what's going on inside both him and Pam's mind and the conversations I hope they are having.
I do too. One of the frustrating things about the format of this show.

Maybe we'll get the happy JAM finale with the proposal and acceptance. I don't know.
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